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The problem with this and some other studies is considerable "lost to follow-up".

The most thorough study of srs patients over 30 years in Sweden found that 10 to 15 years after surgery the srs patients had 20x higher suicide rates than the general population.

The suicide mortality rate has going down over time

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Which is shown even in the study you linked:
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Yes but it's not 20x
Forty‐nine people died by suicide: 41 trans women (0.8%) and 8 trans men (0.3%), which is 64 per 100 000 person years in trans women and 29 per 100 000 person years in trans men.

Here is data for people being treated for depression, similar suicide mortality:

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God MtFs are straight up retarded. How do you experience period cramps without having a uterus that self-destructs? I swear they don't know anything about periods beyond women get them and they get cranky and bleed.
What those men and absolute retards do is recycling an old stereotype of women being absolutely uncontrollable while on their period, and as such cant hold any significant place in a society due theor hormonal hysteria.

Women spend ages trying to combat this and here we are again as the cycle repeats.

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Don’t get your panties in a twist over a slight exaggeration. The point was that it’s more.

Also, that table is comparing patients from 1992 - 1994. I’m not exactly sure what purpose it’s serving.

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Also, I’m pretty sure that Dutch statistic factors in the trannies, because the per 100,000 it has:
Males = 16.2%
Females = 9%

While the other study was:
Transwomen:
41 / 5107 = 0.8%
100,000 / 5107 = 19.58
0.8% x 19.58 = 15.7%

Transmen:
8 / 3156 = 0.25%
100,000 / 3156 = 31.69
0.25% x 31.69 = 7.9%

Which is lower than the supposed Dutch average, based on the corresponding biological sex. So I’m sure they're throwing them in the pile as well. I mean, if they’re keeping track of everyone, it makes sense.

Unless I got my math wrong, than someone please correct me.
 
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You were trying to compare a yearly rate with the total number of suicide deaths among the transgender population but you also did the mathematics wrong.
Right, because I was comparing 2016 Netherlands to 2013 - 2017 Netherland trans.
Since they’re not giving one specific year in the trans study, fuck it then.
Point still stands, I suppose. It’s higher and always will be, huh.
 
The data doesn't support that theory at all. It's wishful thinking on your part.
From the study you linked to:

"An important finding was that the incidence for observed suicide deaths was almost equally distributed over the different stages of treatment. Although the distribution showed that one‐third of the suicides occurred in people who were no longer in active treatment in our center, the other two‐third of the people who died by suicide still visited our center in the previous two years. About half of these last two‐third people were still in active diagnostic or medical treatment, while the other half completed their transition and only came for a medical check‐up. This indicates that vulnerability for suicide occurs similarly in the different stages of transition."

Translation: 'gender-affirming' treatment does not reduce incidence of suicide.

Try reading the shit you link to before posting it, not after.
 
From the study you linked to:

"An important finding was that the incidence for observed suicide deaths was almost equally distributed over the different stages of treatment. Although the distribution showed that one‐third of the suicides occurred in people who were no longer in active treatment in our center, the other two‐third of the people who died by suicide still visited our center in the previous two years. About half of these last two‐third people were still in active diagnostic or medical treatment, while the other half completed their transition and only came for a medical check‐up. This indicates that vulnerability for suicide occurs similarly in the different stages of transition."

Translation: 'gender-affirming' treatment does not reduce incidence of suicide.

Try reading the shit you link to before posting it, not after.
They did not provide proper data regarding suicide mortality and how far someone is in his/her transition. What that particular study established was that suicide mortality is going down over time for the trans population.

The following study did look at hospitalization rate relative to time since SRS.

 
They did not provide proper data regarding suicide mortality and how far someone is in his/her transition. What that particular study established was that suicide mortality is going down over time for the trans population.
>accuses thread of 'wanting to believe' shit
>selectively picks and chooses whatever out-of-context part of each study fits their narrative, because they want to believe their own opposing shit

lol sure thing pal - keep throwing those studies out before actually reading them. on a long enough timeline, I'm sure you'll get lucky winning an internet argument by default.
 
>accuses thread of 'wanting to believe' shit
What you want to believe is that the long-term outcomes from medical transition would be worse than the short term outcomes but there is not any data supporting that and the limited data we have show otherwise.

Regret rate and suicide mortality rate is going down for transgender people, both were significantly higher in the past.
 
She also follows some of the worst people in the trans community
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On the one hand we never hear the fucking end of how horrifically MtFs would supposedly be treated by male inmates, but on the other we're supposed to believe those very inmates would be totally functional members of society if they were all set free tomorrow.

The irony is that if these troons were willing to submit and become some disgusting thug's prison bitch (you know, the same way they want women to submit to them), they'd be relatively safe in prison--but the criminals who would fight over the right to "date" them on the inside would be the exact type most likely to actually murder them on sight on the outside.

ACAB trannies are more retarded than most. The level of tolerance they've built up for all the layers of cognitive dissonance they live with is amazing.
 
Regret rate and suicide mortality rate is going down for transgender people, both were significantly higher in the past.
...based upon your own out-of-context study quotations that utterly ignore the overall conclusions of said studies, the second point that you, unsurprisingly, failed to address in your reply.

but keep believing what you want and frantically scouring the internet for 'proof' to justify that belief.
 
based upon your own out-of-context study quotations that utterly ignore the overall conclusions of said studies,
No study said anything to the contrary regarding overall suicide mortality or regret rate (for all trans people).

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The following study did report similar suicide mortality rate among people in all stages of transition but they did not provide good data for that (they did not even separate people on HRT from people not on HRT). This however is not a randomized controlled trial so we cannot draw any clear conclusion regarding how transition itself affect the suicide mortality, it did not even attempt to do that.


The study also found that even though the number of people followed were increasing the number of suicide deaths stayed about the same.
 
50 bucks says that no child will ever actually be sent to the doctor for a genital check. It's pretty obvious that this is just put in to make it pointless for trannies to even try and get into the girls team. Ain't no way anyone would go to doctor and get a physical when it's clear that the whole thing is pointless and won't lead to anything.

Yup. Here is what would actually happen in Florida. All normal children will operate as...normal. The odd troon child will be known as such to everyone. If a boy gets his mom to check “female” on the application, the school or other organization will say, we require proof from your physician that you are a female by the standards of Florida law. He will not be able to obtain this because it would require the physician to lie.

So all that happens is the troon gets BTFO. And cleanly, impersonally, by regulation, as it should be. No local entity, school or nonprofit, has to make itself a special target, trying to protect girls. It’s kind of like those states where the state itself brings domestic violence charges, rather than the victim having to do it. In the latter scenario, the perp knows they can just pressure the victim, but the state taking it out of the victim’s hands is clean.

Troons want individuals to target. Preferably fairly powerless ones that they can demonize and sic the mobs on and display as an example of what happens to blasphemers. And when they target a larger entity, they like to target businesses. They can’t try to have the state of Florida fired, nor can they threaten to rape and murder Florida. They also can’t try to convince Florida they’re going to boycott them. They can TRY this “no major sporting events or anything else until you give troons whatever they want” nonsense but it won’t fly, because this isn’t Arkansas. This is one of the biggest event/convention states.
 
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Yup. Here is what would actually happen in Florida. All normal children will operate as...normal. The odd troon child will be known as such to everyone. If a boy gets his mom to check “female” on the application, the school or other organization will say, we require proof from your physician that you are a female by the standards of Florida law. He will not be able to obtain this because it would require the physician to lie.

So all that happens is the troon gets BTFO. And cleanly, impersonally, by regulation, as it should be. No local entity, school or nonprofit, has to make itself a special target, trying to protect girls. It’s kind of like those states where the state itself brings domestic violence charges, rather than the victim having to do it. In the latter scenario, the perp knows they can just pressure the victim, but the state taking it out of the victim’s hands is clean.

Troons want individuals to target. Preferably fairly powerless ones that they can demonize and sic the mobs on and display as an example of what happens to blasphemers. And when they target a larger entity, they like to target businesses. They can’t try to have the state of Florida fired, nor can they threaten to rape and murder Florida. They also can’t try to convince Florida they’re going to boycott them. They can TRY this “no major sporting events or anything else until you give troons whatever they want” nonsense but it won’t fly, because this isn’t Arkansas. This is one of the biggest event/convention states.
Troons out there wishing we needed to look at their junk to know they're troons. That would require the troon to be cis passing, which is an almost mythical state.
 
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