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>that font rendering
Unironically kill yourself.

interesting

 

[Captain Fitzbattleaxe]

the problem with your comparison is that it only works if gender & sex were the same thing or were a unified object. but i disagree that they're unified, so it falls apart in my way of seeing things. if i agreed they were one in the same, i would agree with your point. but i disagree that gender = sex, so i disagree with your point

Explain to me then what gender is.

with that said, even if gender = sex, i don't think AGPs apply to that because they clearly don't truly believe they're women for the sake of having an identity. they tell themselves that to justify their perverted sexuality so that they have an excuse to be sex pests. however, when talking about non-AGPs & non-HSTSs, i think it would be a half napoleon rather than no napoleon since the gender identity lines up, which is half for half in the napoleon example

The point wasn't about AGP. Even the most hardcore HSTS is only as much of a woman as I am Napoleon.

 

[5574]

Explain to me then what gender is.

The point wasn't about AGP. Even the most hardcore HSTS is only as much of a woman as I am Napoleon.

my definition of gender identity - `the way your personality/identity interacts with your biological sex`
biological sex - `genitalia, chromosomes, bone density, etc`

i think that gender identity exists because we human beings need a way to connect our personalities/identities to our bodies, so gender identity kind of serves as a bridge between them. gender identity disorders, therefore, are when the identity doesn't line up with your sex, which results in transgender people - AGP/HSTS on the other hand requires your gender identity to be male & sex to be male, since AGP/HSTS is a function of cis male sexuality

in my case, you would call me a cisgender male because i "feel" like a male, & my biological sex is "male". me "feeling like a male" is what my gender identity does, without a gender identity i wouldn't have any emotional or personality connection to my body.

in other words, your gender identity is a component of your personality responsible for helping you understand & connect to your body when it comes to your biological sex. it's responsible for how you perceive yourself, & whether your body is the right fit for you or not. my gender identity is responsible for me having feelings like being really uncomfortable with people calling me female/referring to me femininely

 

[Captain Fitzbattleaxe]

my definition of gender identity - `the way your personality/identity interacts with your biological sex`
biological sex - `genitalia, chromosomes, bone density, etc`

i think that gender identity exists because we human beings need a way to connect our personalities/identities to our bodies, so gender identity kind of serves as a bridge between them. gender identity disorders, therefore, are when the identity doesn't line up with your sex, which results in transgender people - AGP/HSTS on the other hand requires your gender identity to be male & sex to be male, since AGP/HSTS is a function of cis male sexuality

in my case, you would call me a cisgender male because i "feel" like a male, & my biological sex is "male". me "feeling like a male" is what my gender identity does, without a gender identity i wouldn't have any emotional or personality connection to my body.

in other words, your gender identity is a component of your when it comes to your biological sex. it's responsible for how you perceive yourself, & whether your body is the right fit for you or not. my gender identity is responsible for me having feelings like being really uncomfortable with people calling me female/referring to me femininely

But how is that different from how your precived identity interact with your physical body? Say for an example if some guys precived identity was Napoleon yet his body wasn't that of Napoleon.

His precived identity would be a component of his personality responsible for helping him understand & connect to his body, & whether his body is the right fit for him or not and all that. So why is he insane when a transwoman isn't?

 

[Reshiram Battle.mp3]

Spoiler: obligatory gendersperg derailment addon, feel free to negrate or puzzle piece because my some of my thoughts are NPC-adjacent

1) there's no way with our modern science that transitioning from the male to the female sex is possible. full stop. one of my giant qualms with the trooning movement is acting like you can magical girl meguca meduka transform into a woman with 0 complications in the surgery, healing process, or afterwards any kind of hormonal fluctations because sex organs are involved in hormones that affect other less ""gendered"" bodyparts, or that they can magically equivalent exchange a transwomans padded shoulders into milf hips. it just doesn't work like that, and promoting the unrealistic expectation is only going to make the people that buy into this fucking loathe their bodies for the rest of their lives because there's no undo button, and the most horrific part of it all is this unrealistic idea of transitioning is being promoted to children that, as i said in another thread, would unironically say they want to be a fucking dinosaur when they grow up because they're extremely impressionable as they haven't fully established their identity because they're still growing cognitively. if they can't consent to sex then why do you think they could consent to sex-change?

2) this being said i think that trans people that are SOLELY "gender identity"/"gender presentation"/"gender roles" type of trans (read: tomboys and feminine men that just wanna play the pronoun game) can be decent since they're less likely to be AGNs if they're not willing to go under the knife. AGNs are deranged through and through. any trans identified person that can present themselves without being "WELL ACKSHUALLY *unwarranted gender studies lecture in the middle of a normal conversation*" and approach the subject of trans issues with actual nuance instead of screaming "REEEEEEEEEEE GIVE THAT 9 YEAR OLD A NEOVAG" can be decent people, if they still have a life outside of being queer, which is the same metric by which i rate if i can tolerate the presence of another fellow faggot.

It just so happens that most trans people that are visible and open about their stunning and brave identity manage to be bitchy as fuck and more hairtrigger to complain than white-cis karens, and shout down anyone that even gets remotely near to popping their delusion bubble or challenging them at all when it comes to any debate even in good-faith.

Anyways, back on topic, anyone wanna deathpool on when the original herd hits 50% population death? I'm calling that it'll happen around August.

 

[Dickens Cider]

Guys guys guys.... he identifies as the empress Josephine. Don’t misgender or deadname Napoleon....cause we all know history was written by shitlords.

somehow I feel dirty trying to lower my brain to type shit that these idiots somehow confess to believe.

 

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Spoiler: finishing up the gendersperg shit so thread can move on

But how is that different from how your precived identity interact with your physical body? Say for an example if some guys precived identity was Napoleon yet his body wasn't that of Napoleon.

His precived identity would be a component of his personality responsible for helping him understand & connect to his body, & whether his body is the right fit for him or not and all that. So why is he insane when a transwoman isn't?

>how is napoleon vs not napoleon different from gender/sex vs not gender/sex

because whether you are napoleon or not is a binary thing. whether you are male or female etc is a bit more like a gradient, because in my view you could identify as a male but have a vagina or you could identify as a female but have a penis. i think that would make transgenderism sort of be a gradient experience since i believe that gender & sex are connected things but not the same thing. i think our disagreement ultimately will come down to whether we agree/disagree that gender = sex

the napoleon argument only works if we both agree that gender & sex are exactly the same thing since the question is "are you a specific person or not" is a binary question. a napoleon is a unified whole of an object. if a napoleon were split up into two parts as i split up gender & sex, then your argument would make sense from my view

Anyways, back on topic, anyone wanna deathpool on when the original herd hits 50% population death? I'm calling that it'll happen around August.

they won't last past mid july. those conditions are barbaric

 

[Captain Fitzbattleaxe]

Spoiler: finishing up the gendersperg shit so thread can move on

>how is napoleon vs not napoleon different from gender/sex vs not gender/sex

because whether you are napoleon or not is a binary thing. whether you are male or female etc is a bit more like a gradient, because in my view you could identify as a male but have a vagina or you could identify as a female but have a penis. i think that would make transgenderism sort of be a gradient experience since i believe that gender & sex are connected things but not the same thing. i think our disagreement ultimately will come down to whether we agree/disagree that gender = sex

the napoleon argument only works if we both agree that gender & sex are exactly the same thing since the question is "are you a specific person or not" is a binary question. a napoleon is a unified whole of an object. if a napoleon were split up into two parts as i split up gender & sex, then your argument would make sense from my view

But let's just split up being Napoleon into two parts then. You have the physical part of (it i.e having the body of Napoleon), and the mental part of it (i.e believing that you are him). Also there's a spectrum to being Napoleon. His children were basically 50% Napoleon and their children were 25% Napoleon and so on, therefore there's people who are more Napoleon than others. I don't see how much more something can be a spectrum.

 

[No Exit]

>how is napoleon vs not napoleon different from gender/sex vs not gender/sex

It is the same thing; a binary.
Sex and gender are the same thing, you're either male or female and you are what you're born as. There is no pretend gender spectrum. You can be an effeminate man or butch woman but that doesn't change what you are.
Giving yourself retarded titles like genderqueer enby otherkin is just dumb shit kids and underdeveloped man/womanchildren make up to sound special and different because children and retards don't fully understand their emotions and mental states.

 

[Hell yeah dude]

Pennywise played Dr.Mengele with a sheep.

They almost shoot their dog.

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Larping

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[White Devil]

I'm not sure they can present any harder as little boys playing soldier.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

If you showed that video to someone who didn't know anything about the tranch they would assume everyone involved is male. That true and honest woman's voice is deeper than a lot of dudes I know, including myself.

 

[deadeggbeard]

At the risk of briefly derailing away from Glorious Ranch Of Proving The Terves Right:

with my system of seeing things, AGPs don't count as transgender because the gender part of their mind isn't "female", it's "male".

Where is the "gender part of the mind", exactly?

If you showed that video to someone who didn't know anything about the tranch they would assume everyone involved is male. That true and honest woman's voice is deeper than a lot of dudes I know, including myself.

Wait, I've missed something. Is there an actual female tran living there now?

That's... brave.

 

[Taylor Swift's Ghostwrite]

Their dog is so miserable it tried to 41% itself on camera so there would be evidence.
God speed Appa.

 

[stupid frog]

lol Bonnie, u will ne ver be queen of the tranch. penny will always get that claim.

Was it moms money well spent for you?

 

[Surfin Terf]

> That true and honest woman's voice is deeper than a lot of dudes I know, including myself.


Wait, I've missed something. Is there an actual female tran living there now?

That's... brave.

"true and honest woman" is a jokey way of referring to TiMs who are especially obviously men.

 

[Sourceress]

You'd think if there was a "gender part of the brain," they'd just do brain scans on us all to figure our "gender" out before they let people sterilize themselves and their children or chop their healthy breasts or dicks off.

Trans activists are so desperate and pathetic. They believe in the concept of "gender identity" in such a way that it is indistinguishable from the religious concept of the soul. This dude is coming in here asserting that everyone has a mysterious and unknowable but completely real "true self"/"true identity" that is somehow both biologically based in the brain but also has never been found by science or medicine. Please move to the right along with the religious crazies.

I've always been really curious how you can assert that men can have a "female gender brain" or whatever but still have fully functional male physiology. The brain is a bodily organ, it makes sure everything else in your body works right. If you had a "feminine brain" in a male body, wouldn't the dick not work? I mean, the brain wouldn't know how to process stimuli relating to the penis, testicles, or prostate, so sex wouldn't be possible, right? But of course, I guess somehow - magic, perhaps? - the "female gender brain" still knows how to get the pee-pee hard. Hmm.

Anyway, enough about that queereligious bullshit. More about how horrible these men are to their animals. Jesus! All those baby lambs dead (I mean, we know they're dead, at this point, right?), now they're DIYing prolapse fixes and almost shooting dogs. Somebody call the ASPCA or something, shit.

Imagine casually chatting about how you almost murdered your dog (because you're too much of a lazy shit to train and confine your animals appropriately and risk them running onto your DIY shitpile live fire range) while posting what you think are "badass" pics of your ass as you try to pretend you know how to use the guns you spend thousands of other people's dollars on. Wow.

 

[TowinKarz]

Transgenderism is ultimately human hubris. It is a giant "fuck you" to nature (or God if you prefer) by altering the very foundation of your identity. It is humans flouting the laws of nature (and potentially social mores) for their own gain.

With the cherry-on-top that no matter what you do, you fail...... you cannot change your chromosomes. You may be able to fool your fellow man, or more likely brow-beat them into "accepting" your fantasy as truth, but you can't fool nature.... or whatever God you believe in, or any one you don't for that matter.... so it's nothing but an anger-fed public display of folly.

Compounded folly.

Imagine Icarus, except his wings didn't work, but we all had to PRETEND he could fly too close to the sun anyway so as not to "harass" him or "deny his lived experiences". and constantly feel bad for him... for a fall into the sea he never actually suffered.....

 

[lemme ASS you a question]

so do they realise that the desertification has occured? this is incredible to follow

 

[Hell yeah dude]

so do they realise that the desertification has occured? this is incredible to follow

Speaking of which.

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