The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

[Gehenna]

SCOTUS oversees the appeals courts because appeal courts can rule incorrectly. SCOTUS can make up legislation whenever it wants.

Chauvin isnt getting shit from a court.

SCOTUS doesn't get to just veto appeals decisions, it has to be brought to them first AND be accepted. And a successful appeal by Chauvin means that it can't be brought forth as the prosecution would have no standing. So you are just wrong.

 

[Salubrious]

"Juror 27:

A Black man in his 30s. He immigrated to the United States 14 years ago and went to school in Nebraska and moved to Minnesota in 2012. He works in information technology and lives with his wife and dog. He speaks multiple languages, including French. Learning that he was in the jury pool made him "surprised and anxious," but he realizes it's his civic duty. While relating to Floyd's death and thinking "it could be anybody, it could have been you," he also said, "I believe that I will be impartial." He said he believes people have the right to protest, but at the same time, he realizes that businesses are shut down and damaged, and his wife is unable to make it to work. He wants to serve on the jury because "it is a service to my community and our country."

Juror 27 is the best bet for a strong holdout. Foreign blacks tend towards hating Ghetto blacks, PLUS he is well off, PLUS he was raised in a red state, AND he's doing it out of civic duty which is the class of jurors who pay the most attention.

This is why I hate the MSM.

I swear to GOD at least five Kiwis could use just this paragraph, and figure out exactly who this guy is.

Now add to that the fact that someone literally took pictures of the courtroom, and the judge just gave the phone back to the woman with only a "pinkie swear you will delete them".

 

[NerdShamer]

Now add to that the fact that someone literally took pictures of the courtroom, and the judge just gave the phone back to the woman with only a "pinkie swear you will delete them".

The judge should have deleted it, himself.

 

[murdered meat bag]

SCOTUS doesn't get to just veto appeals decisions, it has to be brought to them first AND be accepted. And a successful appeal by Chauvin means that it can't be brought forth as the prosecution would have no standing. So you are just wrong.

Right right it would go to the state supreme court where it would play out like i said it would.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

If anything this whole ordeal shows that cities as they are in the modern era are an absolute shitshow. Who would have thought that making everyone live in apartment complexes on top of each other and packed like sardines with no space would result in everyone hating each other?

I talked about this with a friend; The US really screwed itself on cities when Eisenhower decided to go all in on car infrastructure and turned most cities into hubs of automobile development. Then within a few decades we outsourced that industry that the Government accidentally created white flight for in the first place, and after that let them rot for a few decades before the last two or three had the cope of turning them into centers of business office work where gentrification could slowly happen. Now that last cope is failing because business are collectively realizing they can have a lot of workers telework instead, so we are returning to the decades where cities just rotted but in an even worse position.

It is just decades of the wrong decisions being made, compounding on each other; Each decision making at least some sense at the time they were made, but when you zoom out far enough it just starts to look like a long term catastrophic disaster.

 

[Salubrious]

The judge should have deleted it, himself.

The judge should have just destroyed the phone. Or taken it as "evidence". Whatever the legal terms are.

Like, even if it was an accident (it wasn't), once she was caught, she lost the right to her phone in my opinion.

Now that last cope is failing because business are collectively realizing they can have a lot of workers telework instead, so we are returning to the decades where cities just rotted but in an even worse position.

You have the combination of both remote work AND just not trusting any physical location to not be destroyed in riots. Plus, I lost the image, but some of these cities actually have laws in place where businesses cannot have metal shutters due to "aesthetics" or some bullshit. I swear at least one city banned boarding up windows DURING the protests, and then blamed small businesses for not supporting BLM. So you literally have no choice but to get your windows smashed.

 

[Dogfacefuke]

The main problem I have with these "this is it, *this* is the real final red line" posts is in reality we keep seeing these sorts of high stake events happening with increasing frequency every few years. A strong argument could be made that Zimmerman, or hell even the OJ trial were the real beginnings of this, and more importantly there is nothing stopping another Chauvin tier trail that is even worse from happening in a few years even if he walks. If this is 'the real test of society' then what will the next inevitable 20 incidents be called?

This is a really good point dude. I do think there are hard lines in history though, but nobody, and definitely not me, can say with certainty where that hard line is until we've passed it. The people I trust to make calls like that are Historians like Douglas Murray, people with a real background and understanding of group dynamics. He certainly hasn't placed a hard line down yet, but you can definitely tell his brow is furrowed.

My concern with this particular Trial is that once the precedent is set it's hard to walk it back, especially when you realize we are indoctrinating our children with CRT and can't openly discuss the opposition to it, so future jurors will continue to be primed to think racially first, individually second, the antithesis of the American experiment.

 

[AnOminous]

It was a sound argument. He didn't want to get in the car, so they shouldn't have put him in the car.

The biggest mistake was letting him out of the car. Nogs would have nogged if he'd OD'd in the car, too, but there wouldn't be any clear case for homicide.

 

[Pop pop fizz fizz]

The judge should have deleted it, himself.

he could've pulled a Hillary Clinton and used his little hammer to smash the phone.

 

[Gehenna]

Right right it would go to the state supreme court where it would play out like i said it would.

No, it wouldn't. It can only go UP the chain if it is appealed higher. You can only appeal if you have standing. The prosecution doesn't have standing.

 

[CivilianOfTheFandomWars]

Less that and more the riots will be Biden's Charlottesville/Unite the Right.

Biden's trying his damnest to walk a super tight rope but Waters fucked him over BIG TIME with her bullshit demanding blood and carnage. Especilally since Pelosi fucking sided publicly with the walking turd.

Biden in turn, is now fucked in that when hell breaks loose, he'll have to own the horror that Waters is enabling/supporting. Which means he's going to be FUBARed come 2022 and most likely, 2024.

Now, Waters is from a super blue district so she could kidnap and castrate a bunch of white boys with garden sheers on live TV and still get re-elected. Same with Nancy, especially since Nancy herself wants out so she can spend the last couple of yeas she has left gorging herself on consultant gigs and graft she's long set up to fill her bank accounts. But Biden's fucked if he loses either houses Congress. If he loses the Senate, his agenda is pretty much DOA and worse, McConnell will fuck him over on appointing judges; especially if another Supreme Court drops dead. But more severely, is the fact that if he loses the House he WILL be impeached and worse, have him and Hunters sins investigated and then some. Same with Harris too.

And that's not counting the notion that the local governors might do to Biden what they did to Trump; basically let the riots go on unopposed, fuck the victims of the rioters due to them putting their ideology and personal ambitions (which require them to eat antifas/BLM terrorist dick) above Biden and the national party.

TL;DR if hell breaks loose, Biden might have to force a Handmaiden Tale style public execution with Kamala, Nancy, the Squad being forced to hang Maxine Waters from a tree in a good old fashion lynching while the cameras livestream it nation-wide. Because you can make the case that Biden's hanging on a thread in terms of absolutely NEEDING to keep, at the bare minimum, the House under DNC thumb to save his own ass. And God help him if the riots and Maxine's bullshit cause the doomsday scenario of causing the GOP to get that supermajority needed to remove Biden and Harris from office. Maxine will have to be put to death in the most horrific manner possible for Biden to prevent a Charlottesville style death blow to his Presidency that Biden will never be able to come back from.

So what you're telling me is that there's still a chance Trump can win this?

 

[PumpkinSpiceBitchMeringue]

Is there going to be a live stream today?

 

[TLEN]

So what you're telling me is that there's still a chance Trump can win this?

Trump has already won because he doesn't have to deal with this dumpster fire of a country.

 

[AnOminous]

No matter what that city is going to die due to the lack of anyone wanting to join their police, and the main thing this trial will decide is whether this will take a few years, or we get to see one hell of a riot that finishes destroying it in mere days.

What you get out of this is a surplus of experienced, capable officers that will go to red cities, or any remaining non-insane blue cities, where they'll be valued, and those cities will be safer. The cities that continue pulling this bullshit will end up bombed-out shitholes that look like Mogadishu.

 

[Dogfacefuke]

The biggest mistake was letting him out of the car. Nogs would have nogged if he'd OD'd in the car, too, but there wouldn't be any clear case for homicide.

Yeah I mean they basically let him out of the car and then called the ambulance for him for fuck sakes

 

[Bill The Fucker]

Right right it would go to the state supreme court where it would play out like i said it would.

SCs don't usually rule on this sort of thing. The real danger is in the appeals court hand waiving away any procedural issues and denying the retrial. Appeals courts tend to give a ridiculous amount of leeway to prosecutors from what i've seen.

 

[Prince Vegeta]

The suspense is killing me, and today is likely to be crickets. I'd take a break from checking the thread but I'd hate to show up late to the premiere of Epic Chimpout: 2021 Edition.

That's pretty much why I keep this on watch and check in every few hours.

 

[Evil Enchilada]

"Chauvin's small heart" is still the gayest thing ever said in this decade, and The Twitter-Reddit duumvirate constantly makes 1000s of close competitors every hour.

 

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So what you're telling me is that there's still a chance Trump can win this?

He already won it twice, why not a third time?

 

[Dogfacefuke]

The Jurors are going to be pissed they missed 420 too