The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

Outcome?

  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%
  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%
  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%

  • Total voters
    992
  • Poll closed .
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Shit was bad back in the Prohibition era, complete with a lot of media outlets being pro-mafia and a lot of idiots in the public thinking mobsters were actually heroes because it meant they could get their booze. It took a very long time for Al Capone to get convicted and in his and many other cases jurors and witnesses often ended up dead or missing under mysterious circumstances.
I forgot about the Prohibition, thank you for the info.
Anyway this means that they can put Chauvin either in prison and let him get murdered by some thugs (which I think is the likely outcome) or he'll be put into WPP and vanish.
All this trails has shown that the only court mattering is the one of public opinion.
 
I forgot about the Prohibition, thank you for the info.
Anyway this means that they can put Chauvin either in prison and let him get murdered by some thugs (which I think is the likely outcome) or he'll be put into WPP and vanish.
All this trails has shown that the only court mattering is the one of public opinion.
He'll be put in protective custody. No way in hell they're going to let him in general population for one second.
If they do it for child molesters they'd better fucking do it for Chauvin.
 
You people need to calm the fuck down.

This was a fucking show-trial, there was no way in hell, even with a shit-ton of evidence, a great defense team, and enough reasonable doubt for thirty cases to be not guilty that it would go Chauvins way. This isn't the fucking end of civilization. This isn't the fucking death of America. This is in a shithole town called Minneapolis. Go outside and take a good look. Most of America is not Minneapolis. This was a lighting in a bottle situation. The jury was already fucked by the make-up and who was in it. Do you think the jurors would have gone any other way considering what happened, what could happen, and how it already was going?

Do what Floyd tried to, and take a breather. You are being purposely whipped into a frenzy. The people who wanted this outcome now can be all smug and satisfied, but god knows if this will actually mean anything legally. Half the thread is screaming appeals and cope, and no one is walking off and taking into account that for the majority of us, this whole shitshow doesn't affect our lives, and mean anything other than disappointment or disgust that it didn't go your way. I'm not happy about it, but I know why it happened.
Average of 500 new prosecution exhibits per day of trial.
 
I don’t understand how he was found guilty of “unintentional murder” in the second degree when that particular statute requires that the death occurred while the perpetrator was commuting a felony or while the perpetrator was restrained by an order of protection and the victim was a person designated to receive protection under this order.

what felony was Derek committing when he killed Floyd or what protection order was there?? I’m clearly missing something.
Felony assault. Essentially the jury believed that the protection of the badge for his actions went beyond the bounds of reasonable force at a point and thus became assault, felony level assault.
 
The felony assault was holding him down too long.
Ah I see. That makes sense now. Thank you. That was the bit I was missing. I hadn’t watched the whole trial so I didn’t know the felony assault came into play. Though it makes sense... I also just assumed any assault charge went out the window because ... police. Ya know?
 
phew, I feel different than I thought I would. I thought I would be mad if he got guilty on all counts, but I kind of get it lol.

Watching Rekieta's stream cleared a couple things up for me:
He was found guilty on all counts because they thought he met all elements of all charges. Will be harder on appeal to get a clean sweep of all charges.
Guidelines of sentencing:
  • Murder 2nd unintentional: assuming criminal history score of 0, 150 months the average (~10 years), could push him to 180-190 month range if considered aggravated
  • Murder 3rd and manslaughter may get served concurrently. So just the longest charge will get served out.
  • If you are convicted on multiple crimes at the same time, they will increase your criminal score even if you had no criminal history (score of 0)
 
You people need to calm the fuck down.

This was a fucking show-trial, there was no way in hell, even with a shit-ton of evidence, a great defense team, and enough reasonable doubt for thirty cases to be not guilty that it would go Chauvins way. This isn't the fucking end of civilization. This isn't the fucking death of America. This is in a shithole town called Minneapolis. Go outside and take a good look. Most of America is not Minneapolis. This was a lighting in a bottle situation. The jury was already fucked by the make-up and who was in it. Do you think the jurors would have gone any other way considering what happened, what could happen, and how it already was going?

Do what Floyd tried to, and take a breather. You are being purposely whipped into a frenzy. The people who wanted this outcome now can be all smug and satisfied, but god knows if this will actually mean anything legally. Half the thread is screaming appeals and cope, and no one is walking off and taking into account that for the majority of us, this whole shitshow doesn't affect our lives, and mean anything other than disappointment or disgust that it didn't go your way. I'm not happy about it, but I know why it happened.
The election was rigged and so were the courts. Fuck you and your calm.
 
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