U.S. Riots of April 2021 over Derek Chauvin & Riot Watch General

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They had a good run until white people showed up.
Greatest empire ever can't remove mayo? Can't have been that great. Also Mali sounds like some fat woman's name.

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Depends on the area and person. Black suburban kid who is pretty much white going to get higher pick rates then some gangbanger who baths himself in a Popeyes bathroom.
 
Stalin was a follower of Marxism. How come he was able to resist "true marxism" but the western intellectuals cannot?

Yes, I am accusing you of midwittery. Your narrative sounds great based on all the /pol/ talking points but it's just not true. It hurts the movement by calling these people Marxists and calming the problem is foreign subversion when the real problem is home-grown and based on American values of "liberty and equality."
Marxism is not an essential ideological position, it evolved over time beyond the writings of marx himself but using a theoretical basis he established.

Both Stalinism (or leninism if you prefer to be less insulting) and trotskyism are marxist ideologies. They differ in elaboration and detail. They are both marxist and yet trots were passionately anti stalin! how is that possible if all marxist ideologies are the same? It turns out complex political and philosophical ideas can branch off from one another.

Marxist subversion is not any more foreign than liberalism is foreign to america because it was invented in Britain.

By the way, liberty and equality are very easily bounded within a nation or a people. They do not lead necessarily to internationalism. An argument could be made that pursuing liberty and equality for all could possibly threaten the liberty and equality of the people you are supposed to be governing. Indeed the declaration of independence whole purpose is to draw a distinction in governance between britain and the united states of america. It is a nationalistic document, it proclaims all the rights of a nation.
 
Moot point considering slavery is the backbone for empire economy everywhere before the ((((((anglos))))))) think it's funny to turn slaves into wagecucks instead.
The backbone of any empire is the spirit of the patricians. The first world empire in history - Persia, so called by the Greeks, outlawed slavery.
 
Why not both?
Because it's cope. These people don't want to admit that American values are the issue. Without rejecting liberty and equality for all there is no way to defeat the neo-liberals.

It's the same pattern, These people will accuse the neo-libs of being Communists or Marxists or socialists. Neo-libs will say they believe in liberty and equality for group X. These people will then say, "ya I guess you're right. Liberty good. Equality good." They lose. Every single time. Same script.

How hard is to admit that maybe Thomas Jefferson was a dumbass and saying all humans deserve liberty and equality is a mistake?
 
Americans, like any other great nation, have enjoyed prosperity for too long, that they have forgotten the dangers of survival. They find themselves in a crucial moment - either they find a dictator who will set the country back on track, or they transform into a new nation. A liberal-infested one.
 
Yes and they were also a military dictatorship for most of their post war history.

And yet it's still a more stable and prosperous society than anything that exists in black Africa.
Thats because asains are smarter than africans and they have a booming economy and manufacturing base thanks to America wanting more forean made goods because of how cheap it is to make there vs here. The only thing that slowed there economy down was the coof. Think its ironic that the left is pushing stop Asain hate when its virtulaey nonexistenet and the only hatred that exists is over China for releasing the coof.
 
Because it's cope. These people don't want to admit that American values are the issue. Without rejecting liberty and equality for all there is no way to defeat the neo-liberals.

It's the same pattern, These people will accuse the neo-libs of being Communists or Marxists or socialists. Neo-libs will say they believe in liberty and equality for group X. These people will then say, "ya I guess you're right. Liberty good. Equality good." They lose. Every single time. Same script.

How hard is to admit that maybe Thomas Jefferson was a dumbass and saying all humans deserve liberty and equality is a mistake?

Would you agree with the proposition that these values of equality, liberty, etc. are positive values to apply within a community but that they are weaknesses when extended to an antagonistic, separate community? And that within the USA there exists an antagonistic separate community and that is the problem rather than the values themselves?
 
Americans, like any other great nation, have enjoyed prosperity for too long, that they have forgotten the dangers of survival. They find themselves in a crucial moment - either they find a dictator who will set the country back on track, or they transform into a new nation. A liberal-infested one.
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Because it's cope. These people don't want to admit that American values are the issue. Without rejecting liberty and equality for all there is no way to defeat the neo-liberals.

It's the same pattern, These people will accuse the neo-libs of being Communists or Marxists or socialists. Neo-libs will say they believe in liberty and equality for group X. These people will then say, "ya I guess you're right. Liberty good. Equality good." They lose. Every single time. Same script.

How hard is to admit that maybe Thomas Jefferson was a dumbass and saying all humans deserve liberty and equality is a mistake?
Still don't see why both of you can't be right on this.
 
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Stalin was a follower of Marxism. How come he was able to resist "true marxism" but the western intellectuals cannot?
Stalin physically removed his opponents, then physically removed the removers. Also, he crushed Comintern, sent KPD members back to Nazi Germany (the irony) etc. Trotsky wanted to subvert western countries from within, Stalin's approach was more straightforward.
All this shit resulted in western commies being disillusioned in USSR experiment. Their organizations became autonomous, weaker and more Trotskyist. Their only way to succeed was to subvert the existing system, instead of waiting for the Red Army to overthrow bourgeoisie government.
And Soviet bloc continued with "social conservative" Stalin's ideas as they were more beneficial for powers that be (you don't want to subvert your own Party, товарищ).
 
Americans, like any other great nation, have enjoyed prosperity for too long, that they have forgotten the dangers of survival. They find themselves in a crucial moment - either they find a dictator who will set the country back on track, or they transform into a new nation. A liberal-infested one.
Or things just decline slowly over time while the Cities erupt into occasional violence and become even more unlivable. Then white people just shrug and move further out to the countryside like we've been doing for the past 100 years. Rinse and repeat until we run out of room to move or decide to stop reproducing.
 
Would you agree with the proposition that these values of equality, liberty, etc. are positive values to apply within a community but that they are weaknesses when extended to an antagonistic, separate community? And that within the USA there exists an antagonistic separate community and that is the problem rather than the values themselves?
No. Values/Virtues are a form of deductive logic but deduction has limits. In mathematics we would say a function has a domain, a range of inputs. Likewise when we mention values like liberty/freedom or equality they come with a context, a range of situations where this value makes sense but when you misapply these values into the wrong context, you get gibberish (degeneracy) as your output.

So liberty/freedom makes sense when the context is a evil ruler who is putting you in jail but it doesn't make sense when the context is a cisgendered heteronormative culture that makes homosexuals and transgenders and feminists feel unloved. The former hurts society while the latter creates a suitable society. So if you apply liberty universally to all situations you'll get some form of degeneracy:

Liberty + Economics = An Cap
Liberty + Social Issues = Social Justice.
Both are degenerate ideas that collapse your society.

Moral of the story is you cannot worship universal values. You have to use your brain and ask yourself whether this value makes sense in this context.
 
Because it's cope. These people don't want to admit that American values are the issue. Without rejecting liberty and equality for all there is no way to defeat the neo-liberals.

It's the same pattern, These people will accuse the neo-libs of being Communists or Marxists or socialists. Neo-libs will say they believe in liberty and equality for group X. These people will then say, "ya I guess you're right. Liberty good. Equality good." They lose. Every single time. Same script.

How hard is to admit that maybe Thomas Jefferson was a dumbass and saying all humans deserve liberty and equality is a mistake?
This is very presumptuous. I do not like neoliberals, no amount of virtue signaling on their part would convince me otherwise.

Not sure how you could gather from my excessively autistic theorizing that somehow a neo lib will tell me he loves blacks and I'll instantly lose my mind. My opinion on jefferson is that he was a christian (if a deist), which was his chief stumbling block on ethical matters. I am not American, I have no problem calling jefferson a dumbass. Not acknowledging the debt neoliberalism owes to marxism does you a disservice in understanding it, especially outside the American context, in britain, germany or france for example. All these people are the same. Biden (or his handlers) are not jeffersonians, they are modern neo liberals who have the ambition to erect global governance structures. Even Neoliberal as a term feels sort of dated, not sure I like it.

My personal view is, as with socialism, liberty and equality are good things as long as they are bounded by a people, a tradition and in the modern context a nation. There is zero chance for compromise with neo liberal types over these boundaries.
 
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