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My ratt is that Coco hangs out with Calli. You can't tell me Ms. Baggy Clothing Edgelord would wear Adidas unless a certain someone didn't either get it for her (Like Coco bought Adidas clothes for Kanata) or she was pushed to buy it.

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Consider:
  • We know for a fact that Holo members hang out behind the scenes.
  • Calli's Japanese isn't good.
  • Coco is the only English speaker in JP (pepeloni doesn't count).
It's not even a rrat at this point, it's Occam's razor.
Suisei is too cute
The way she pronounces stuff is quite unique. She definitely gets the intonation from American TV, but she still messes up stuff like ending consonants a lot. I think it's when she's familiar with the words (and doesn't have to make her own sentences) that she switches to the valley-girl voice.
He seems to have forgotten that he's fleeing for his life from evil criminal doxxers or whatever. Time to remind him?
 
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NA (US and Canada) is reported administrate 200+ millions doses and currently open for 16 and up age groups. I doubt the girls would not take this chance to take the vaccine plus a free 2 weeks vacation for them. The number of people who take the vaccine is not as low as you might think base on those “news” outlet. For US alone, we are about to hit the 50% total vaccinate for the population soon. Most other countries outside of EU, and NA are waiting for US to finish their vaccination so they can ship those vaccine as international aid (apparently West Taiwan vaccine is not working).
Either way, they are all smart women if they take a few days off to take vaccine. Right now in SEA, they are using EU vaccine AstraZeneca, which available for “those who needed” first and if Moona and the gang get cleared to travel to Japan for 3D debut, means that they obviously have to fully vaccinated.

2 weeks is just the inoculation period for the vaccine to "fully take", really. You don't really need to take 2 weeks off for it. I took a day off to get my first shot in and I didn't have any adverse reactions so I pretty much went back to work as usual the next day. YMMV, of course, but I certainly doubt the 2-week off is for vaccine shots. I'd say 2 weeks is pretty much just enough reasonable time for a quick break off work and hang out & chill with family and/or fuck around Germany.
 
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Anytime a JP tries to speak English, dozens of clips are put up within hours making fun of their bad pronunciation or lack of understanding the meaning of what they're saying. How is what she's doing any different? Aside from

Where in the clip you posted/original streams did she come across that way? Or is this just more of the usual anti-Kiara spergery?
Funny language Barrier moments are part of the fun and are not generally meanspirited. But what Kiara does is different. Sorry if you don't see it, but with her, the "joke" ALWAYS goes like this:

Kiara "You say it '(insert word)".
Other Vtuber: "(word not correctly pronounced)"
Kiara: HaHahaaahahaha, nOOOO not like that!!!

It's a big deal because there is a person right there with you laughing (and it really seems to be at you). And I'm sure you all know English in most of the civilized world is considered a super valuable and important skill to have. Especially in Japan.

And having someone point out how not good you are in that skill, even in a slightly condecending way (or laughing), can make the other feel like getting called a dum-dum or uneducated and lazy for not having learnt it. (Oh, you suck at English. hahahah, I can speak english, german AND japanese hahaha you dum-dum)

That's why having someone laughing at English mistakes right next to you is not the same as your buddy laughing at you for crashing in Mario Kart.
the chicken's austrian tho. but it's not the first time germans get blamed for an austrian sperg.

Besides, the arrogant tone is something that is common for Austrian people. Most of the ones I met have it in their voice or behavior though it isn’t specifically done to look down on you, just something that is common for the austrian people.
But yeah, germans can be absolute cunts, no doubt about that.
As Christopher Hitchens said "Austria's biggest achievement was convincing the world Hitler was German and Beethoven was Viennese"

Seriosly now, Hololive is supposed to be fun. The chicken makes all her "learning" collabs unbearable by her petulancy and lack of tact. If it's common for Austrians to do that, then they suck.
 
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Funny language Barrier moments are part of the fun and are not generally meanspirited. But what Kiara does is different. Sorry if you don't see it, but with her, the "joke" ALWAYS goes like this:

Kiara "You say it '(insert word)".
Other Vtuber: "(word not correctly pronounced)"
Kiara: HaHahaaahahaha, nOOOO not like that!!!

It's a big deal because there is a person right there with you laughing (and it really seems to be at you). And I'm sure you all know English in most of the civilized world is considered a super valuable and important skill to have. Especially in Japan.

And having someone point out how not good you are in that skill, even in a slightly condecending way (or laughing), can make the other feel like getting called a dum-dum or uneducated and lazy for not having learnt it. (Oh, you suck at English. hahahah, I can speak english, german AND japanese hahaha you dum-dum)

That's why having laughing at English mistakes right next to you is not the same as your buddy laughing at you for crashing in Mario Kart.



As Christopher Hitchens said "Austria's biggest achievement was convincing the world Hitler was German and Beethoven was Viennese"

Seriosly now, Hololive is supposed to be fun. The chicken makes all her "learning" collabs unbearable by her petulancy and lack of tact. If it's common for Austrians to do that, then they suck.
A friend of mine has some friends in the weeb business; promotion and invitations for german conventions. Some of them knew Kiaras roommate before her debut and what they said basically lines up with your analysis.
I agree that vtube is supposed to be fun and entertainment. But it seems like some people also see the behavior she has as entertainment. Just like there are tv shows and movies which you might absolutely hate, there‘ll always be people who will defend it.
 
Also, I wonder how they're able to switch segments so fast? Right after Marine's segment ended, they managed to switch to Ayame almost immediately.
Maybe they were switching/swapping tracking suits and booting their avatars, thats why the stream started kinda late..?
There's a note in the description where it says 'Some parts of the video are pre recorded to control the pandemic' (deepL translated) or something. What parts, I have no idea. Her solos are probably live though.

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A friend of mine has some friends in the weeb business; promotion and invitations for german conventions. Some of them knew Kiaras roommate before her debut and what they said basically lines up with your analysis.
I agree that vtube is supposed to be fun and entertainment. But it seems like some people also see the behavior she has as entertainment. Just like there are tv shows and movies which you might absolutely hate, there‘ll always be people who will defend it.

eh, doubt most get off on "haha repeat after me so I can make fun of you when you suck at it", watching the clip that's not even close, and that's supposed the worst of it.
the thing about the chicken is that she's a yuropoor, same way coco is a burger; that's not an excuse, but there is a latent difference in behavior and chicken has her own personality on top of that which works for some and some simply dislike ("divisive" would probably be a fitting description), which also explains some of the hate she generates compared to the others, that's just how it is.

heck luna's whole schtick is mangling english, which some find adorable and some just silly. and no one accused pikamee of the same thing when she turned into a kettle after TMSK wanted to kill da hoe. like I said I doubt she does english collabs just to make fun of the others, if anything that's just her being unable to read the room and/or how it comes across - just watch any of the EN collab clips people constantly post as "proof" how much the chicken sucks.
plus, the other's might not be able to speak english properly, doesn't mean they are dumb. if they get the feeling kiara makes fun of them or other stuff they have an issue with you can bet enma or the others will talk with her about it behind the scenes - she does speak japanese after all, so the others will have no issue calling her out on it (even considering the usual japenese passive-aggressiveness). and personally once they meet a few times I think it will probably take care of itself. the difference to the main branch is that they constantly see each other and talk in person, which makes it much easier to know how to handle someone compared to online.
 
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loose lips?

in her recent minecraft stream, she also mentioned something about her roommate leaving for 2 weeks to "do something important", then proceeded to say that she probably shouldn't have said that.

i didn't actually know why but there were some people in chat who said that yeah she probably shouldn't.
Anyone care to explain?
Wait did she say she was keekhime or she just said she had something to do.
 
NA (US and Canada) is reported administrate 200+ millions doses and currently open for 16 and up age groups. I doubt the girls would not take this chance to take the vaccine plus a free 2 weeks vacation for them. The number of people who take the vaccine is not as low as you might think base on those “news” outlet. For US alone, we are about to hit the 50% total vaccinate for the population soon. Most other countries outside of EU, and NA are waiting for US to finish their vaccination so they can ship those vaccine as international aid (apparently West Taiwan vaccine is not working).
Either way, they are all smart women if they take a few days off to take vaccine. Right now in SEA, they are using EU vaccine AstraZeneca, which available for “those who needed” first and if Moona and the gang get cleared to travel to Japan for 3D debut, means that they obviously have to fully vaccinated.
Yes, the US is far ahead in vaccinations, and so is the UK, but the rest of Europe is far behind. So far behind that it is unlikely that Kiara is even close to getting vaccinated right now. Where I am, because I am a part of the younger age groups, I will be maybe vaccinated, at the current rate, after the summer ends. After I looked around in the net, Austria is not in a better shape.
 
And I wonder what roommate? Doesn't she living with her family right now? Why does she need a roommate? And if she mean the term in Vtuber's roommate sense, that's either damn bold or stupid.
I'd generally recommend at least watching streams before being this retarded.
Kiara has talked multiple times about going back to living with a roommate in austria when she was still in Japan. And in this context she specifically mentioned it because her roommate was playing the guitar for the cover of Bokura no Ashiato in the context of only having a day or so to record the song, because she was gone for ~2 weeks for some reason, before sending it to the mixer.
 
Jesus, it took 20 mins already for the 1st puzzle and watching Ina try to describe shapes despite being a professional artist was pain peko. Chat had to get involved because her descriptions were so wack for Ame to understand. Less to say it quite entertaining at the same time.
out of all EN member, and as an artist herself, she is the last person i think is bad describing visually. im waiting this series that i expected it gonna be as chaotic as the SovietWomble one
 
holy shit the duck's voice sounds like it got shot up like a duck during hunting season. This was from a members stream that she gave permission for clippers to clip and send out. She also tweeted out her voice doesn't sound as bad now but still will be taking a break
What's bad about this voice? What is she talking about? She sounds amazing here. Though the duck voice is pretty iconic, so I understand.
 
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