The impact of beef is overplayed to distract you from real environmental issues - and to make you eat bugs goy

Would you eat bugs if they were refined into something that doesn't look like bugs?

  • Yes

    Votes: 15 17.6%
  • No

    Votes: 68 80.0%
  • Yes if everyone around me does

    Votes: 2 2.4%

  • Total voters
    85

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I've always been suspicious of the 'stop eating beef to save the environment' narrative. I feel like its been so drilled into our brains that a lot of people who eat beef still believe its bad for the planet in the back of their head even if they don't act on that thought. There's been ample evidence over the years that this narrative is retarded, from studies done showing that net 0 greenhouse emissions are possible in cattle farms to just basic understanding of the water cycle. This video is pretty good at summarizing most of the arguments against eating beef and why they don't hold water.


I feel like I'm going insane anytime someone I know seriously says we should eat bugs and plants instead of the animals we've eaten since humans became a thing.
 
Anyone that says "eating beef is bad" in any context is fucking retarded. Beef, and meat in general, has Protein... something that is very vital for anyone's health.

I've been around people that have little to no protein and it's not fun. They become chemically imbalanced and act all weird and shit. Vegans (which my last ex was one) are the worst offenders of this shit. Even after claiming shit like Broccoli will give them the necessary Protein, they still are very mopey and moody and upset and miserable.
 
Beef, and meat in general, has Protein... something that is very vital for anyone's health.
The argument they always make in response is that its not the only source of protein out there and plant protein takes less resources to make, entirely ignoring the other useful minerals in beef and the fact that cattle are grown on non-arable land unlike soy for example.
 
I think most westerners do eat too much meat in general and in a drive to push down prices farms and fisheries are needlessly harming live stock, wildlife and the environment (trawlers and deforestation rather than global warming).

I try to cut cheap meat and trawler caught fish out of my diet altogether.
 
Some bean counters got to work looking at the whole "eat the bugs" thing and have found that breeding and harvesting insects in the numbers required to make them a stable food source is probably too complicated. Figuring out how to process bugs into an acceptable food additive is also difficult as nobody is quite sure how to grind up their hard carapaces and sanitze the remains without expending a bunch of energy.

Bugs also provide very little protein, obviously, so you would need to eat a very large amount of them to get any nutritional value. The cultures that do eat bugs generally don't rely on them as a staple food source, more than likely for this reason.

The whole thing was probably just a marketing gimmick. It worked, irritatingly enough, since people all over the internet keep repeating "eat the bugs" which I predict will be either the product name or the marketing slogan.
 
I think most westerners do eat too much meat in general and in a drive to push down prices farms and fisheries are needlessly harming live stock, wildlife and the environment (trawlers and deforestation rather than global warming).

I try to cut cheap meat and trawler caught fish out of my diet altogether.

There is no such thing as eating too much meat, that's a narrative that has been implanted into your psyche by the same globohomo's who want to brownwash the world and force you to live in rented pods over in MEGACITY#2
 
The cow reeing movement is, as always, missing the forest for the trees. Yes, cows take a lot more energy to produce the same amount of food as plants. But cows aren't just food. And no, I'm not just talking about dairy.

Cows are made into eleven billion things, and this infographic is still missing a bunch but I couldn't find the good one I like. In fact, most of a cow gets made into non-food products. So it's not a one to one comparison. You're not trading beef for soybeans. You're trading several dozen raw materials for soybeans. Then where do the rest of the materials come from? This is never factored into the equation.

The average person, especially the average pod dwelling city tard, thinks cows are made of meat the same way an apple is made of...apple. They think that once a cow is butchered, the entire thing turns into steak like in Minecraft. So when they read about how much land and water it takes to make beef, they genuinely don't even know about the rest, so they form an opinion based on a simple, extremely flawed equation. That's where this stupid idea that cows are killing our precious tree spirits comes from. It's ignorance, like every other trendy movement in the history of trendy movements.
 
The cow reeing movement is, as always, missing the forest for the trees. Yes, cows take a lot more energy to produce the same amount of food as plants. But cows aren't just food. And no, I'm not just talking about dairy.

Cows are made into eleven billion things, and this infographic is still missing a bunch but I couldn't find the good one I like. In fact, most of a cow gets made into non-food products. So it's not a one to one comparison. You're not trading beef for soybeans. You're trading several dozen raw materials for soybeans. Then where do the rest of the materials come from? This is never factored into the equation.

The average person, especially the average pod dwelling city tard, thinks cows are made of meat the same way an apple is made of...apple. They think that once a cow is butchered, the entire thing turns into steak like in Minecraft. So when they read about how much land and water it takes to make beef, they genuinely don't even know about the rest, so they form an opinion based on a simple, extremely flawed equation. That's where this stupid idea that cows are killing our precious tree spirits comes from. It's ignorance, like every other trendy movement in the history of trendy movements.
And that's before getting into things like the different bioavailability of vegetable- and animal-sourced nutrients - that is, how easily and efficiently nutrients are absorbed from plant and animal sources.

Some of the best plant source of protein are pulses and beans, but the energy required to extract those proteins is enormous compared to the energy required to extract them from animal sources. That's because animal sources are already in a form we can easily use, whereas plant sources have to be processed before they can be used. This takes energy.

Iron is another one. Plant-sourced iron is in a form that is difficult for our bodies to absorb in ideal circumstances. Its absorption can be blocked entirely in the presence of calcium and other compounds, meaning you have to plan meals to ensure that you aren't eating anything that conflicts. You also have to consume orders of magnitude more plant-sourced iron compared to animal-sourced iron to get the same benefit; most of it goes straight through you and out the other end without even being touched. This bioavailability problem is ignored when comparing the nutritional value of plant and animal-based foods.

Bugs are marginally better. The problem they have is nutritional density, which is terrible compared to meat.

The simple fact is, we evolved to consume an animal-biased omnivorous diet. Our bodies are adapted to the consumption fo regular, large meals of meat (and offal), supplemented by plant-sourced extras such as nuts, seeds, fruits and roots. Supplemented. We aren't built to live on a primarily vegetarian diet. The only way it can work is with the introduction of artificial supplements, which require a great deal of energy to produce and simply aren't sustainable for a large population.
 
There is no such thing as eating too much meat, that's a narrative that has been implanted into your psyche by the same globohomo's who want to brownwash the world and force you to live in rented pods over in MEGACITY#2
There is when that meat is of diseased livestock pumped full of hormones, antibiotics and whatever other drugs, flensed from the bones with a pressure washer in some filthy flyblown abattoir just to be compacted down into some shitty 20 cent hamburger patty or 10 cent peperoni.

By all means eat as much meat as you like just buy decent stuff actual fucking meat. Half the shit on store shelves and fast food menus is literally salvaged garbage sometimes cut with so much soy as to make your argument moot..
 
Half the shit on store shelves and fast food menus is literally salvaged garbage sometimes cut with so much soy as to make your argument moot..
Very true. The fact that beef isn't harmful for the environment and the fact we eat too much beef aren't mutually exclusive. The key is diet diversity, eating only hormone pumped red meats is not healthy at all. Even when completely organic eating beef daily isn't the best for the body but I sure as shit prefer doing that than being forced to eat bugs or tofu for my protein.
 
The cow reeing movement is, as always, missing the forest for the trees. Yes, cows take a lot more energy to produce the same amount of food as plants. But cows aren't just food. And no, I'm not just talking about dairy.

Cows are made into eleven billion things, and this infographic is still missing a bunch but I couldn't find the good one I like. In fact, most of a cow gets made into non-food products. So it's not a one to one comparison. You're not trading beef for soybeans. You're trading several dozen raw materials for soybeans. Then where do the rest of the materials come from? This is never factored into the equation.
Amusingly enough there are industrial alternatives for everything on that infographic. Nearly all of them would be petroleum products though :story:
 
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