Interesting. What category does Thorn fall into? A trans fetishism gone too far? He was capable of being in relationships with women before trooning out.
Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.
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Interesting. What category does Thorn fall into? A trans fetishism gone too far? He was capable of being in relationships with women before trooning out.
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> Remembering that your forefathers died.
> Lost in millions for our countries pride.
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> I'm a Lady
Honking clown always turns a frown upside down.
Not to be that bitch but fuck me, the size of Oliver's feet. He is objectively 6'1. Has empirically verified hulking shoulders. Must be size 10 shoes at least.
Seriously, this dude's insistence on being a "totes real classy womyn who obvs wears heels everywhere" will lead to major problems. He has no clue how to walk, breathe, stand and just fucking be in them. His back will be absolutely fucked within a calendar year of this nonsense and the only people laughing will be us and his BUPA chiropractor.
For bonus crushed disc points. let's add C-cup silicone to the mix and you know he's getting them.
Seriously, this dude's insistence on being a "totes real classy womyn who obvs wears heels everywhere" will lead to major problems. He has no clue how to walk, breathe, stand and just fucking be in them. His back will be absolutely fucked within a calendar year of this nonsense and the only people laughing will be us and his BUPA chiropractor.
For bonus crushed disc points. let's add C-cup silicone to the mix and you know he's getting them.
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He has a Patreon where he has some free posts alternating between giving advice and taking about his multiple mental illnesses:
Nothing really worth screencapping but interesting to see how he might have influenced Olly.
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Maybe a little of both, I assume all these people are porn addicts (and I've yet to see anything that hasn't proven me right) and I guess you can have relationships with women and still think of them as more an object or fetish than a person, like how some rapists do it for power, not sexual pleasure.
More than either of those though, I forgot to mention what I consider the #1 underlying factor; failing to fit in as a boy. Secondary socialization is where boys learn to be boys and girls learn to be girls and people tripping up in it is one of the larger indicators (or causes) for psychological abnormalities and conditions later on, and I've noticed almost every single tranny that talks about why they've "always" been a woman citing how they felt different than the 'other' boys at this stage of development. Maybe it's not having a dad, getting bullied, having some other condition (autism) that makes them adjust poorly, or just bad luck, but it seems like an almost 100% trend of boys missing out on fitting in specifically with other boys throughout childhood into young adulthood and, as a result, seems they disassociate from manhood and masculinity as a whole, and turn to femininity as where they 'must' logically fit in instead. Even like the tranny athletes you'd think would be manly or have guy friends consistently mention how they didn't fit in with other boys and got bullied
I think Olly is/was an annoying fag since day 1 and wasn't included because of it, and that (combined with far left ideology, some internal fetishism or love for androgyny, and his bargain-bin theatric "touch") created all the necessary pre-condition to troon out, which then only takes one shake-up to push over the edge. He trooned out like mid-pandemic right? Seems to fit, he had these emotions and pull towards femininity (mind, still an INCREDIBLY condescending and dehumanizing view of womanhood) and finally took the dive once he's locked up and losing it
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He’s clearly jumped on the trans train for clout/woke points, and to have something to bitch and moan about. Being a white guy with wealthy parents meant he couldn’t sympathise with the poor downtrodden minorities, and in woke circles, being supportive alone won’t do - you’ve gotta be part of the acceptable identity categories, as lived experience is the most important thing to the wokesters. And as far as gender is concerned, they believe you’re whatever gender you are the moment you announce it, no matter how ludicrous, so trans is one of the easiest things to be when you’re looking for approval from the intersectional brigade. But seeing how Olly acts like a caricature of a woman and seems to be experiencing gender euphoria (read: sexual gratification) from it, there’s gotta be some AGP in there as well.
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I just need to step in and autistically challenge this cause I hear it a lot, it's not really about power. It is more about sexual pleasure than anything. It is the mixture of sexual power and pleasure, but this weird Liberal idea that rape is about power just doesn't track onto reality. They also say this about rape in prison, men raping each other for dominance and power and revenge or something. Ask yourself this: have you, or any man you've ever known, wanted to fuck a man in the ass cause you hated them so much? And then keep fucking them repeatedly? Have you ever been so horny that you went to fuck a man?
The answer is: no. There's far more men in these situations that don't do sodomy than vice versa. And it's actually more likely that these people are using that as a cover for their own homosexuality than anything. No man has ever raped a woman because of a power thing, he rapes because he is horny, he sees women as easy prey, and he doesn't want to wait. It's like shoplifting sex, and nobody shoplifts really to attack capitalism.
To the main point I believe Olly does, in fact, fetishize femininity. And furthermore, it is weird that so many women do the baggy clothes, hair pulled back, looking like absolute shit thing. Everyone knows it is women mimicking men, which is mainly a Feminist thing that nobody is impressed by, and you can be certain when they go out in a non-professional setting they are jamming their tits as far up their chest as they can as some sort of weird subliminal pressure release.
I like the idea of exploring transness not as its own phenomenon but an extension of mentally ill homosexuals. They're really not that far off from the mainstream celebration of drag culture. This may be too extreme for this thread but I think there is an huge unspoken aspect of gay culture in general where the entire goal is to attack orthodoxy and get off on it, so this is a natural result of that. So I don't buy it at all when gay people act like this is all beyond the pale. It's just one tiny step further than the shit they are already doing.
I mean, look at the video we are all talking about: the moment Olly comes out as trans, he is given a gay award and immediately shepherded on stage with a gay murderer to talk about what it's like to be a woman
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Yeah I agree, I was really just going for an easy and common comparison, even if it isn't a very accurate one.
The real study of power dynamics in rape (not the white woman twitter 'revelations' about rape) isn't that people rape because they want to feel powerful and not because they're horny- that's fucking retarded. More accurately, the power dynamic comes into play when someone who is very horny can't get the sex they want, and so the sex becomes not merely sex (as if sex is every merely sex) but a weird form of validation for the rapist. It's not that they just want sex, they could get that from any dumb slut at a bar, it's that they want sex with a specific person to prove to themselves of some internal value. And for people who are so ugly or retarded they might not even be able to fuck some slut at a bar (nobody is that ugly or retarded, btw) it can even be the validation that they can get any sex at all. Rape has a lot of subsets and circumstances, but certainly one of them is people who are horny, and don't like they can't get their rocks off in the way they want, and take it out on someone both as a way of getting their rocks off, and of venting that anger and proving they can get the sex they want.
But regardless, the important detail I care about is that it's less about the person being raped, and more about the feelings the rape elicits from the rapist. The rapes are usually very intentionally done to a specific person, but it's got very little to do with that person- all the emotion and intention is focused back on the rapist themselves and how they feel. Just the same, I think trannies certainly get sexual pleasure from trooning out, but another key element is that they've finally "got" a woman. Trannies, like these types of rapists, force themselves on women (or womanhood), but it's less about any person-to-person connection and more fulfilling the desire of the rapist/tranny themselves, both sexually and as a validation of status.
tl;dr trannies are self-obsessed and all the noise they make about rights and women is just a way of reflecting attention and validation back on themselves, because they get off on it.
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Bro what lmao. This is as bad as the troons thinking that stealing their sisters skirts makes them a woman. No woman is “mimicking men” by wearing normal ass clothes.
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99% of all troons are obsessed with sex in one form or another (don't ask me for a source). There might be a very, very small minority for whom it isn't a fetish or any other form of sexual disorder. Maybe very, very feminine gay men might be so feminine that they're just better off living as a woman (I mean in a female sex role. Obviously they can't change their sex really). And for a large portion of people it might be a phase during adolescence.
Yesterday the musical The Rocky Horro Show came into my mind when I was thinking about Ollie's strange behaviour. I watched it again after so many years and know why I made the association with Olly.
The film was released in 1975 and produced by Richard O'Brien. Richard O'Brien himself didn't perceive himself as very masculine person/somewhat "genderfluid" and some statements of him could have been understood as being supportive for troons. But in 2017 he actually showed support for people like Germaine Greer who claimed that trans women aren't real women.
So why is this important? Because in the 70's it was still normal to consider transvestites/transsexuals as nothing else than people who are constantly horny, even by most gays and lesbians. And this is how transvestites/transsexuals are potrayed in Richard O'Brien's movies: as sex hungry, always horny villains.
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"don't ask me for a source"
lmao, every tranny on the planet is a source. Sexual urges are obviously powerful and play a key role in our biology, but normal, well-adjusted people put these desires in the right place and only give credence to them at the right times. Trannies, along with many other classes of sex addict, have for whatever reason let their sexual urges run rampant and gone insane as a result, the same way that anyone who lets any set of urges go unchecked goes insane. It's self-evident how troons are obsessed with sex just by the way they talk, it's worse than tapping into a high school locker room.
Trannies like Olly are a particularly unhinged combo of obsession with sex combined with a need for attention and an urge to feel validated as individuals by society as a whole, compounded by a laundry list of social and political factors pushing that way.
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Ay up me lovelies. I'm loving this whole bein transgendah thing, teehee! 
Feel free to take your clothes off babes. Being the trans princess of TERF Island is hard work but I'm a lucky girl nonetheless. Ooh err I love being a womyxn, and so does my little Tube!
Feel free to take your clothes off babes. Being the trans princess of TERF Island is hard work but I'm a lucky girl nonetheless. Ooh err I love being a womyxn, and so does my little Tube!
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So basically if women wear comfy clothes and dont plaster their face in make up they are trying to be men. Not the obvious they just want to be god damn comfortable. This is the same troon attitude unless women are sexualising themsleves, and dressing in feminine clothes which by the way are designed to be restrictive and uncomfortable they are trying to be men.
I scape my hair back, wear baggy clothes and dont wear make up because it means im comfortable and no i dont push by breasts up again because i dont want to.
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Came across a fancam someone made of Olly. He still looks like a perverted freak in it, despite it being someone's best attempt at making him look cute.
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The day someone realises that they dress for themselves and their comfort, NOT other people, is the day they start living.
Wear trackies and a hoodie whenever, its fucking comfy not masculine
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A fun experiment I like to do with people that are living inherently deceitful lives; whether they're grifting scheming, whatever it may be, is looking really closely at their eyes. Because the eyes don't lie. The guilt a grifter has for knowing that they are living a lie can always be seen in the eyes:
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100% I wear trainer never heels because I like to be able to move, walk and run not teeter. I wear baggy shirts and hoodies because they are comfortable and good for everyday like. Never once have I compared myself to a guy, they are classed as unisex clothes for a reason.
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Fr. I wear a lot of casual dresses because I appreciate the ease of only having to put on one article of clothing but I also love being comfy in sweats and sweatshirts and I’ve never wanted to be a man. idk I’m just a normal woman who would enjoy for my clothing not to be imbued with profound meaning for five fucking minutes.
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For me, it's this as well, plus pockets, tbh.
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Imagine being Olly, who came out and started lecturing everyone as a "woman," and then three months later real, actual women decide to unite behind Maya Forstater as she appeals. People will feel emboldened to openly ridicule poor Abby, just in the flower of his troonery.
And if the ruling truly comes overnight, holy shit that might mean Twitter posts lampooning Olly mercilessly by the end of the week.