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[Rupin]

I have to wonder if YBZ is going to see another six-figure campaign. Maybe another Jawbreakers would get there, but even that isn't a sure thing considering he's eschewed what are by now the normal avenues of promotion for crowdfunded books. The reaction to his non-Jawbreakers output has been rather lukewarm and it's obvious he's sort of coasting on a watered down version of what brought him to the dance while distancing himself from the actual dance.

there is a good chance he might. YBZ still has quite a loyal following. I mean Rock and Roll Ninja hit 50k so, Jawbreakers hitting six figures is not too big of a stretch even without Frog’s help.

 

[Unverified]

Awesome! Someone is taking the initiative to address Ethan's complaint about boring CG streams. I'm sure this is exactly what's needed to pump some adrenaline into the bloodstream of ComicsGate. Some riveting discussion by CG's all-star personalities like.... Deadwood Dale...

 

[Miniluv]

there is a good chance he might. YBZ still has quite a loyal following. I mean Rock and Roll Ninja hit 50k so, Jawbreakers hitting six figures is not too big of a stretch even without Frog’s help.

It's possible, yes. Time will tell if his audience will stick around until the next Jawbreakers launches, which could be another year or two considering Zack wants to immediately publish every single dumb story he thinks up. He lost a lot of good faith with the lawsuit thing and his current fulfillment woes are definitely not helping him. His steadfast refusal to stick with what works is costing him money and fans.

Getting six figures without any help from EVS is a tall order for a CG book. Getting six figures for a CG book when you do next to no promotion for it seems nearly impossible.

Awesome! Someone is taking the initiative to address Ethan's complaint about boring CG streams. I'm sure this is exactly what's needed to pump some adrenaline into the bloodstream of ComicsGate. Some riveting discussion by CG's all-star personalities like.... Deadwood Dale...

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Ethan is right about the streams being boring but the problem is that, aside from him, CG is full of boring people. Most comics people don't have the personality to carry hours of YT streams and CG is no different. The JACK show is excruciating 99% of the time, unless they're all drunk and then it's a slightly amusing shitshow. People call CG a personality cult because there's only one guy involved in it with a personality.

 

[Unverified]

CG is full of boring people.

Don't worry, bro. The dream team is being assembled. A new golden age of streaming entertainment is upon us. Bask in its glory.

 

[Smug Freiza]

As I've previously talked about in this thread, Zack has one of the largest drop offs from consecutive campaigns in Comicsgate, if not the largest.

Jawbreakers Lost Souls
$404,913
10,619 backers

Jawbreakers G0dking
$251,357
(-$153,556 from Lost Souls -37%)
6,510 backers
(-4,109 from Lost Souls -38%)

Jawbreakers Grand Bizarre
$213,642
(-$192,271 from Lost Souls -47%)
(-$37,715 from G0dking -15%)
4,326 backers
(-6,293 from Lost Souls -59.3%)
(-2,184 from G0dking -33.5%)

I don't doubt that his next entry in the Jawbreakers series will hit 6 digits again, but it will be severely diminished compared to Grand Bizarre in my opinion. Zack has already established a trend of shedding between 33%-38% of his backers each Jawbreakers campaign during the good times, however consider the following:

• There is a greater pool of competition facing Zack now with the addition of Dan Fraga, Kenneth Rocafort, Shane Davis and Graham Nolan.
• Zack refuses to properly promote his comics via livestreams on his channel.
• Zack refuses to promote on livestreams on other peoples channels.
• He received a great amount of flak for "cucking out" on the Waid lawsuit, producing an unprecedented amount of criticism against him.
• He has completely dropped the ball on the fulfillment of Grand Bizarre and The Expendables.

If I was to estimate a rough figure I'd say Zack's next Jawbreakers campaign would probably make somewhere around $180,000 from 3,300 backers. This is entirely speculation on my part, the figure could be much higher or lower depending on people's shifting attitudes towards him.

One thing is certain, last year I predicted that eventually Jon Malin would replace Zack as the second highest crowdfunder in the CG sphere. Graveyard Shift 3 raised $265,383 from 3,318 backers in two months without going in-demand, the new GYS3 variant campaign has raised $104,766 from 1,386 backers with over a week remaining. Both campaigns combined not only beat Grand Bizarre but The Expendables as well.

 

[Miniluv]

Don't worry, bro. The dream team is being assembled. A new golden age of streaming entertainment is upon us. Bask in its glory.

Should be pretty easy for these guys to GRAB AN OAR and magically develop entertaining personalities that can engage an audience for hours at a time.
The Malin Method of "just git gud" will definitely work, no problem.

 

[Rupin]

Ethan is right about the streams being boring but the problem is that, aside from him, CG is full of boring people. Most comics people don't have the personality to carry hours of YT streams and CG is no different. The JACK show is excruciating 99% of the time, unless they're all drunk and then it's a slightly amusing shitshow. People call CG a personality cult because there's only one guy involved in it with a personality.

you are absolutely right, somebody on this board (Newman’s Own or Jspit, I think) said that Cecil isn’t funny on his own unless he is playing off of Ethan’s larger than life personality. Jon is kind of the straight man in the group, Anna is the eye candy and Kelsey is the lovable goof, except he really doesn’t do anything remotely funny aside from simping over Anna.

 

[Analog Devolved]

As I've previously talked about in this thread, Zack has one of the largest drop offs from consecutive campaigns in Comicsgate, if not the largest.

Jawbreakers Lost Souls
$404,913
10,619 backers

Jawbreakers G0dking
$251,357
(-$153,556 from Lost Souls -37%)
6,510 backers
(-4,109 from Lost Souls -38%)

Jawbreakers Grand Bizarre
$213,642
(-$192,271 from Lost Souls -47%)
(-$37,715 from G0dking -15%)
4,326 backers
(-6,293 from Lost Souls -59.3%)
(-2,184 from G0dking -33.5%)

I don't doubt that his next entry in the Jawbreakers series will hit 6 digits again, but it will be severely diminished compared to Grand Bizarre in my opinion. Zack has already established a trend of shedding between 33%-38% of his backers each Jawbreakers campaign during the good times, however consider the following:

• There is a greater pool of competition facing Zack now with the addition of Dan Fraga, Kenneth Rocafort, Shane Davis and Graham Nolan.
• Zack refuses to properly promote his comics via livestreams on his channel.
• Zack refuses to promote on livestreams on other peoples channels.
• He received a great amount of flak for "cucking out" on the Waid lawsuit, producing an unprecedented amount of criticism against him.
• He has completely dropped the ball on the fulfillment of Grand Bizarre and The Expendables.

If I was to estimate a rough figure I'd say Zack's next Jawbreakers campaign would probably make somewhere around $180,000 from 3,300 backers. This is entirely speculation on my part, the figure could be much higher or lower depending on people's shifting attitudes towards him.

One thing is certain, last year I predicted that eventually Jon Malin would replace Zack as the second highest crowdfunder in the CG sphere. Graveyard Shift 3 raised $265,383 from 3,318 backers in two months without going in-demand, the new GYS3 variant campaign has raised $104,766 from 1,386 backers with over a week remaining. Both campaigns combined not only beat Grand Bizarre but The Expendables as well.

 

[FROG]

Zack will ALWAYS have my help if he wants it.

JAWBREAKERS 4 will have covers by me and Malin. We’ll see how it does!

 

[Mister Dongs]

Ethan is right about the streams being boring but the problem is that, aside from him, CG is full of boring people. Most comics people don't have the personality to carry hours of YT streams and CG is no different. The JACK show is excruciating 99% of the time, unless they're all drunk and then it's a slightly amusing shitshow. People call CG a personality cult because there's only one guy involved in it with a personality.

2021/04/27 - SKETCH THERAPY - PHOQ MILLER PHOQ NASSER COME AT ME BYCHES

In this age of darkness and directionless shillstreams, there is a beacon of hope. After an austere intro video which consisted of 4 minutes of dead air while Sketch fiddled with audio settings, the host wastes no time with branding, pre-amble or product endorsement as Sketch directly and concisely goes right to the core of his issues with Comicsgate as it stands: his comments on Frog's latest youtube upload aren't going through. Sketch explains that his thoughts, consisting mainly of the use of words like "suq", "phoq" and "qoq" to get around Google moderator censorship just like everyone else does, but for some reason his comments aren't being displayed in the comment section, and he suspects foul play to be behind this censorship.

Being a real friend doesn't just mean supporting them unconditionally but actually helping them by calling them on their shit, but for some reason Sketch's tactically misspelled all caps rants demanding Frog stop sucking Smiller and Nasser cock and being a cuck piece of shit aren't going through. Sketch's #1 and #2 suspects behind this: Nasser and Smiller and he reiterates, repeatedly, that he will be the last true Comicsgater if it comes down to this; vowing that he will never Nasser's cock no matter the cost. He will not do it. CG creators need someone like Sketch to remind them of the perspective of the customer, like the man that whispered "memento mori" in the ears of the Roman Emperors. Except with a lot more profanity. Creators hold onto the dox of all their customers and trust is paramount. Also, Nasser's few supporters in CG are all Nasser alts while Smiller plotted to send the FBI at all customers.

 

[NasserRabadi13]

In this age of darkness and directionless shillstreams, there is a light.

I think I'll efap this tomorrow.

 

[Rupin]

I think I'll efap this tomorrow.

it felt like watching one of your early streams where no one would come on and be your guest, except a lot more deranged.

 

[FROG]

2021/04/27 - SKETCH THERAPY - PHOQ MILLER PHOQ NASSER COME AT ME BYCHES

In this age of darkness and directionless shillstreams, there is a beacon of hope. After an austere intro video which consisted of 4 minutes of dead air while Sketch fiddled with audio settings, the host wastes no time with branding, pre-amble or product endorsement as Sketch directly and concisely goes right to the core of his issues with Comicsgate as it stands: his comments on Frog's latest youtube upload aren't going through. Sketch explains that his thoughts, consisting mainly of the use of words like "suq", "phoq" and "qoq" to get around Google moderator censorship just like everyone else does, but for some reason his comments aren't being displayed in the comment section, and he suspects foul play to be behind this censorship.

Being a real friend doesn't just mean supporting them unconditionally but actually helping them by calling them on their shit, but for some reason Sketch's tactically misspelled all caps rants demanding Frog stop sucking Smiller and Nasser cock and being a cuck piece of shit aren't going through. Sketch's #1 and #2 suspects behind this: Nasser and Smiller. CG creators need someone like Sketch to remind them of the perspective of the customer, like the man that whispered "memento mori" in the ears of the Roman Emperors. Except with a lot more profanity. Creators hold onto the dox of all their customers and trust is paramount. Also, Nasser's few supporters in CG are all Nasser alts while Smiller plotted to send the FBI at all customers.

Say what you want about Sketch, the guy can talk. This entire video is filled with shit I couldn’t care less about, but I’m enthralled.

 

[Newman's Own]

Zack will ALWAYS have my help if he wants it.

He'd probably appreciate it if you spent 5 or 10 minutes of your next stream talking about how excited you are about 499 and how radical, cool and "kinetic" Narwal's style is.

Maybe get the whole panel talking about it.

 

[Mister Dongs]

Say what you want about Sketch, the guy can talk. This entire video is filled with shit I couldn’t care less about, but I’m enthralled.

Somehow Sketch naturally speaks with a near perfect 4/4 time signature.

In the time it took Deadwood Dale to put out a tepid tweet fishing for more entertaining youtubers to carry him, Sketch not only made a two hour non-stop rant about WC covert agent Nasser having a wrench on your channel, he was also able to carry Finatra's show (who was streamsniping), Nasser's next show which is an efap as well as providing the vocals for the intro video for DarkGift's "CG Neutral Ground" dramastream where he denounces the concept of "neutrality" as the tool of the infiltrator.

 

[Pilule Noire]

Awesome! Someone is taking the initiative to address Ethan's complaint about boring CG streams. I'm sure this is exactly what's needed to pump some adrenaline into the bloodstream of ComicsGate. Some riveting discussion by CG's all-star personalities like.... Deadwood Dale...

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Oooh, dream teams!

Who can come up with the funniest dream team of Frog's CG buttlickers, who are also totally devoid of entertainment value and/or talent?

Let's make it a game!

Here is my 'CG dream team', but a dream team of lackey hangers-on who make Youtube chaff while kissing up to dumbass Frog and blindly obeying all his boneheaded directives.

Presenting the YADA show:

'Yellow Flash'
Adam 'Friended'
'Deadwood Dale'
Adam Post

Now remember, 'Yellow Flash' is going to make a quintillion dollars on his crowdfund if he ever becomes arsed to shit something out. That's according to Frog, and I think Malin concurred. This makes 'Yellow Flash' the Frog of the gang. The head, certainly, but don't assume there's a brain in the head.

Adam 'Friended', meanwhile, has had a huge Hollywood career, like he's been in/around Hollywood for, oooh decades, and has done tons of stuff which we won't get into, but he is basically 'Hollywood Adam', to distinguish him from the other Adam (see below). So 'Friended' here is like the Doug T of the gang, he's the Hollywood guy. He's a screenwriting and story expert, and as we insiders know, Hollywood is really good at story, and really respectful towards screenwriters, they are very high on the totem pole in Hollywood, and scripts in Hollywood are generated with an extraordinary amount of painstaking care and effort. So Adam is like a genius!

'Deadwood Dale' is the viral Youtube sensation, the PewPieDie of CG, he makes such good videos all the time, says such interesting comments like when he called Nasser a bitch when he came back on Frog's show, but sounded like a hugely upset bitch himself when he said it. That kind of high-level self-reflexive internet humor is what makes 'Deadwood Dale' so unmissable in everything he does, another one of Frog's brilliant talent discoveries.

And finally, this new CG show, which will rival Friday Night Dorks (or whatever it's called) in entertainment value, would not be complete without Comic Artist Pro Secrets alumnus and publishing mogul Adam Post. This guy was one of Frog's top guys! And he's been publishing comics for a loooong time, so don't even think about giving feedback to him about them, unless you're also a Stan Lee-esque, old man comic publisher like him. He's just a sweet, kindly little old man who, uh, 'presents' comics.

This YADA show is guaranteed to be a hit, with Frog at least. @FROG, you must watch every episode start to finish. No speeding up!

Or maybe when Frog finally descends down into the ninth layer of Hell, maybe Satan will make him do that. LMAO!

 

[jspit2.0]

you are absolutely right, somebody on this board (Newman’s Own or Jspit, I think) said that Cecil isn’t funny on his own unless he is playing off of Ethan’s larger than life personality. Jon is kind of the straight man in the group, Anna is the eye candy and Kelsey is the lovable goof, except he really doesn’t do anything remotely funny aside from simping over Anna.

I don't think Cecil was ever very funny.

I have commented that his initial appeal was as a wrestling heel to others. He was able to foil Ethan and Nerkish well enough.

But he doesn't even do that anymore.

As I've previously talked about in this thread, Zack has one of the largest drop offs from consecutive campaigns in Comicsgate, if not the largest.

Jawbreakers Lost Souls
$404,913
10,619 backers

Jawbreakers G0dking
$251,357
(-$153,556 from Lost Souls -37%)
6,510 backers
(-4,109 from Lost Souls -38%)

Jawbreakers Grand Bizarre
$213,642
(-$192,271 from Lost Souls -47%)
(-$37,715 from G0dking -15%)
4,326 backers
(-6,293 from Lost Souls -59.3%)
(-2,184 from G0dking -33.5%)

I don't doubt that his next entry in the Jawbreakers series will hit 6 digits again, but it will be severely diminished compared to Grand Bizarre in my opinion. Zack has already established a trend of shedding between 33%-38% of his backers each Jawbreakers campaign during the good times, however consider the following:

• There is a greater pool of competition facing Zack now with the addition of Dan Fraga, Kenneth Rocafort, Shane Davis and Graham Nolan.
• Zack refuses to properly promote his comics via livestreams on his channel.
• Zack refuses to promote on livestreams on other peoples channels.
• He received a great amount of flak for "cucking out" on the Waid lawsuit, producing an unprecedented amount of criticism against him.
• He has completely dropped the ball on the fulfillment of Grand Bizarre and The Expendables.

If I was to estimate a rough figure I'd say Zack's next Jawbreakers campaign would probably make somewhere around $180,000 from 3,300 backers. This is entirely speculation on my part, the figure could be much higher or lower depending on people's shifting attitudes towards him.

One thing is certain, last year I predicted that eventually Jon Malin would replace Zack as the second highest crowdfunder in the CG sphere. Graveyard Shift 3 raised $265,383 from 3,318 backers in two months without going in-demand, the new GYS3 variant campaign has raised $104,766 from 1,386 backers with over a week remaining. Both campaigns combined not only beat Grand Bizarre but The Expendables as well.

Zack will ALWAYS have my help if he wants it.

JAWBREAKERS 4 will have covers by me and Malin. We’ll see how it does!

You realize that if you, and Malin, keep dragging him over the finish line that's a red flag right? So will this mean you're reversing your ultimatum that Richard grow the fuck up and livestream?

2021/04/27 - SKETCH THERAPY - PHOQ MILLER PHOQ NASSER COME AT ME BYCHES

In this age of darkness and directionless shillstreams, there is a beacon of hope. After an austere intro video which consisted of 4 minutes of dead air while Sketch fiddled with audio settings, the host wastes no time with branding, pre-amble or product endorsement as Sketch directly and concisely goes right to the core of his issues with Comicsgate as it stands: his comments on Frog's latest youtube upload aren't going through. Sketch explains that his thoughts, consisting mainly of the use of words like "suq", "phoq" and "qoq" to get around Google moderator censorship just like everyone else does, but for some reason his comments aren't being displayed in the comment section, and he suspects foul play to be behind this censorship.

Being a real friend doesn't just mean supporting them unconditionally but actually helping them by calling them on their shit, but for some reason Sketch's tactically misspelled all caps rants demanding Frog stop sucking Smiller and Nasser cock and being a cuck piece of shit aren't going through. Sketch's #1 and #2 suspects behind this: Nasser and Smiller and he reiterates, repeatedly, that he will be the last true Comicsgater if it comes down to this; vowing that he will never Nasser's cock no matter the cost. He will not do it. CG creators need someone like Sketch to remind them of the perspective of the customer, like the man that whispered "memento mori" in the ears of the Roman Emperors. Except with a lot more profanity. Creators hold onto the dox of all their customers and trust is paramount. Also, Nasser's few supporters in CG are all Nasser alts while Smiller plotted to send the FBI at all customers.

Truly, Sketch is the human embodiment of CG.

Let's make it a game!

Or maybe when Frog finally descends down into the ninth layer of Hell, maybe Satan will make him do that. LMAO!

The best part of all this is its based on Friday Night Tights. A group of breadtubers who get together and agree that [insert x culture war shit] is the worst thing ever because the customers. It is quite possibly the worst show of the Fakedom Menace in the sheer number of grifters. Cucks and Clicks, Gary Beakler, Tom of ME, and Az.

If when Frog winds up in Hell one watch should cleanse ten years of karma minimum.

 

[Rupin]

I don't think Cecil was ever very funny.

I have commented that his initial appeal was as a wrestling heel to others. He was able to foil Ethan and Nerkish well enough.

But he doesn't even do that anymore.





You realize that if you, and Malin, keep dragging him over the finish line that's a red flag right? So will this mean you're reversing your ultimatum that Richard grow the fuck up and livestream?



Truly, Sketch is the human embodiment of CG.



The best part of all this is its based on Friday Night Tights. A group of breadtubers who get together and agree that [insert x culture war shit] is the worst thing ever because the customers. It is quite possibly the worst show of the Fakedom Menace in the sheer number of grifters. Cucks and Clicks, Gary Beakler, Tom of ME, and Az.

If when Frog winds up in Hell one watch should cleanse ten years of karma minimum.

his Smuglas and Oxmaul voice when he makes fun of Preston manage to still get a chuckle out of me.

 

[Miniluv]

The best part of all this is its based on Friday Night Tights. A group of breadtubers who get together and agree that [insert x culture war shit] is the worst thing ever because the customers. It is quite possibly the worst show of the Fakedom Menace in the sheer number of grifters. Cucks and Clicks, Gary Beakler, Tom of ME, and Az.

FNT is exactly the stereotype of manbaby fandom. A bunch of dudes sitting in front of their toy collections (because how else can you prove you're a real fan if the wall behind you isn't covered in toys and genre movie posters) bitching about the pop culture they still consume even though it's the worst shit in the world. Sure, they say they're going to stop watching Batwoman but then what would they talk about? Gary seems like an OK guy, but him trying to read anything aloud should be banned by the Geneva Convention.

That said, I'd rather listen to him recite War & Peace than watch a Jeremy Griggs video.

 

[Mister Dongs]

Zack will ALWAYS have my help if he wants it.

JAWBREAKERS 4 will have covers by me and Malin. We’ll see how it does!

Hey let's not get ahead of ourselves: according to Zack's latest update he's still writing Jawbreakers 3.