Alex Rosen / Chet Goldstein / Gordon Flowers / Predator Poachers USA - Pedophile hunter using children and his own nudes as bait, racist pranks, infamously botched the EDP445 case

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Alex Rosen (AKA Chet Goldstein)​
Crikey! It looks like we've stumbled upon some Kiwis in the wild, how would you like to join me on a safari? The internet is a dangerous place and we're going to track some dangerous prey. These people think they're the apex predators of the world, a Predator Poacher, if you will. These people are dangerous lolcows because they hide their narcisism and destructive behaviors behind "catching predators." This in itself is usually counterproductive. For those of you looking to inform yourselves about the controversy surrounding pedo-hunting before continuing, I respect that and would provide you this (archive) article. Chet is quoted (real name Alex) and will be referenced lightly throughout the OP.

Be warned: This thread does discuss pedophilia, child abuse, and children being placed in harms way by Alex. You're going to be upset.

One last note, Please archive everything relating to Predator Poachers and their community. Youtube has been deleting all of their content for harassment and it's becoming difficult to find older content. This OP will try to contextualize Chet and his group but some videos I would prefer to show are currently lost. After the recent EDP445 controversy I suspect more will be purged. Anyways, let's begin.

Edit: One other quick note, I have heard rumors that Alex Rosen has had a relationship with a minor. I don't have any evidence of this, and given the context of this OP I will not be wasting time on these theories unless they're more substantiated.

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Alex Rosen, AKA Chet Goldstein, is the founder of Predator Poachers. He's ostensibly using this to launch his career into more mainstream avenues. His internet presence takes many forms, but many videos have been scrubbed from the platform - hence the new alias Chet Goldstein. Youtube is his bread and butter right now, if he gets banned he'll improvise, adapt, and overcome. How would one describe him? I'd prefer to have him describe himself in the article linked in the intro,

Sounds like something a former college football oaf might do. You might wonder what's wrong with luring in a suspected pedo and proceeding to berate them on camera for views. I can't speak for non-US countries, but there's a little thing called entrapment. Law enforcement and civilians (to different degrees based on the state) cannot simply entice people to commit a crime for the purposes of reporting them. Every state is a little different with regards for what classifies as "child endangerment", "solicitation", etc. If you're luring in predators with a plant, there are ways these things must be handled to secure a prosecution. If these stings are not handled appropriately and professionally, you will cause a man to go free to commit crimes another day. These grifters don't understand that and they don't care. It's not about catching predators. It's about scaring them for a video and getting views. Here (archive) is an article about Predator Poachers fucking up a case exactly like this.






If you're reading this thread in current year, you're probably familiar with this sting on EDP445

Famous Youtuber Edp445 Caught Meeting 13 Y / O Girl ft​

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EDP445 could one day go to jail, but it will not be because of this video. It looks bad, but this will be considered entrapment. Rosen did not cooperate with law enforcement, lawyers were not consulted, and he has never demonstrated a knowledge of the law surrounding entrapment and solicitation of underage persons. It will not be admissable in court and I would bet police will not look into this. It sucks but that's how the world works. Ask the Zoosadists.
This video is the classic. One minute in he starts going over the messages sent to EDP445, details their operation, and then executes it. The weirdest part, however, is their horrible line of questioning. The original posting on it can be found here. The entire video is obviously designed to generate buzz. It's open knowledge that the EDP445 exposition had a delayed release because he wanted to maximize the monetization. This is neither hyperbole, nor is it the first time he's done this. A quote from the introduction article by Alex himself,

This is rule #1 of the Pedophile Poacher community. Get views, get paid. Pedos are incidental in this gig, and outside of the praise they receive for "catching" them, they really don't care. Here is a fellow pedo hunter and minor lolcow, Eric Kanevsky, air his dirty laundry with Alex Rosen.

GUY WHO CAUGHT EDP445 - CHET GOLDSTEIN - MY EXPERIENCE WITH HIM​

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At minute 3:55 he explicitly says, "We all do this because it gets views." He shows how Alex is in it solely for the money while self-reporting himself as a grifter as well. Every pedo hunting group hates the other and tries to out-do the competition. It's almost as if it's not about catching criminals or doing something positive with your life at all.

Here's a video of him catching a suspected pedo, and a relevant news article (Credit and more info found here)
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Notice how in the very beginning he mentioned his video getting removed because they didn't conceal the suspect's identity. He reuploaded the video with the man's face exposed briefly before blurring it. He viewed this as a fair comrpomise because, "People need to see this guy and teach him a lesson." This is not how you catch a pedophile.

Anyways, here is a Twitter thread with alot of the cringe content he's uploaded over the years. It's pretty funny.
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Here's Bowblax going through the Twitter thread and other cringe

Twitter VS Chet Goldstein (EDP445 Predator Poachers)​

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The videos show him making cringe jokes about racism and child sex. Maybe not the most appropriate mentality to have when you're busting pedos :story:
I'm not sure what the "right mentality" is, considering I haven't caught any pedos. I don't think it's any of these, however.

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The video below is of his crew (illegally) detaining a suspect with a firearm, then failing and letting him escape

predator poachers illegal detainment/false imprisonment in frisco, tx​

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Here's a video compilation of Alex Rosen using actual minors to lure in pedophiles. This is real, it is also by his own admission in the video. He has willingly and knowingly advertised and placed minors in close proximity to pedophiles with no realistic plan to ensure their safety - not that you realistically could.

compilation of minor used in person (endangerment) for predator poachers​

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Do real pedo hunters endanger children? In case there's some wacko reading this who thinks this video is out of context or those aren't real children, here's a video of Alex recognizing his minor's actions and thanking them.

alex gives a shoutout to his minor decoys​

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As long as no minors got hurt I guess it's fine then, right?
Oh right, fucko, a minor DID get assaulted

predator poachers stinghouse 2: minor admits to being assaulted​

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Predator Poachers AKA Mob Justice LLC
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Rosen is the founder of Predator Poachers, but it's not a small singular entity. It has several chapter spread throughout the country.
Here's the Massachusetts chapter catching the wrong guy who's tweaking and then shares the suspected pedo's ID with the tweaker - hoping he gets smashed on the street

Predator Poachers Massachusetts Catches Wrong Guy Live Stream​

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He encourages people to take action across the world, no matter how young. Here's a young upstart trying to found a Washington chapter

Alex inspires people to risk their lives in order to join the cause.​

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Many of these videos come from this channel dedicated to uploading illegal and/or fucked up things Alex does.

One last video of Alex straight up threatening to call the cops on someone unless he can beat the fuck out of them, then he turns into a pussy after he does it and realizes he might be in trouble now

predator poachers alex assaults someone and then gets scared​

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He tells this guy he's going to "let him go" because he "seems remorseful." Probably not because his footage includes him assaulting this guy. Alex then says, "You wouldn't want your whole life ruined because of one mistake you made today. I wouldn't like that to happen to me, obviously." Draw your own conclusions from this farce of a man's actions.

So let's say you're convinced of this cause and want to learn more? Let's check out his website.

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The front page of his website is six payment plans, including an $1,800 option that will have them come to your city and wreck havoc catch pedophiles for three days. The only other two tabs are merch and free vids, of which there are none.
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This could be said about most people in the pedo hunter community, but Alex Rosen is a grifter who profits off exploiting children. He hides under the auspice of hunting predators, but he deliberately places children in danger. He does not take the necessary steps to ensure these offenders can be tried and imprisoned. Police have routinely asked him to stop this activity. He assaults people, falsely accuses people as being pedophiles, and just has a generally Lolcow personality. This guy unironically ruins people's lives, some innocent, and some are children.

Thank you for joining me on this journey. Please archive everything, it's not just Alex but all pedo hunters get routinely scrubbed by Youtube for harassment claims.
I don't have any social media to post since they've all been banned

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that eric kanevsky dude is a huge faggot and his voice sounds like a squeaky high pitched valley girl.
 
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Alex Rosen
Apt. #W582 5465 Braesvalley
Houston, TX 77096

Nob Hill Apartments:
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Per his dead Predator Poachers trademark application:
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Per Doxbin:
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A few people in my friend group were fans of EDP before this all came out, so for the past week or so, this has been talk of the town. I’ll say here what I’ve said there (and in EDP’s thread).

That sting was one of the worst I’ve ever seen. They mention several times in the video that they’ve done this “hundreds of times.” If I weren’t reading this thread, I’d think that was a lie. They made rookie mistakes every step of the way, and the only reason it even sort of worked is because EDP was just as big of a retard as them and didn’t take two seconds to actually put it together that this was a sting.

The whole video made me angry watching it because even a literal retard probably could’ve done a better job at catching him. I’m sure EDP will get off, but I’m afraid to think about how many other predators are free right now because these idiots ruined any chances of them going to jail.
 
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Not a lolcow but I enjoy learning more about him. The outrage seems very manufactured and I'm struggling to understand why I should be mad at this guy. Alex and that other dude "Ghost/CC UNIT" have exposed several hundred child predators while providing mild entertainment. I always assume that when someone has a hateboner for Alex that they're a deviant themselves who just hates watching their kind be humiliated and exposed. Law enforcement doesn't seem to give a shit about online pedos trying to rape kids. Unless anyone has any better ideas, this is the best we have right now.

Edit- one of the people he caught made this thread

hi Alex I love you
 
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troon-cavern said:
Not a lolcow but I enjoy learning more about him. The outrage seems very manufactured and I'm struggling to understand why I should be mad at this guy. Alex and that other dude "Ghost/CC UNIT" have exposed several hundred child predators while providing mild entertainment. I always assume that when someone has a hateboner for Alex that they're a deviant themselves who just hates watching their kind be humiliated and exposed. Law enforcement doesn't seem to give a shit about online pedos trying to rape kids. Unless anyone has any better ideas, this is the best we have right now.

Edit- one of the people he caught made this thread

hi Alex I love you
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How many of them have actually gone to jail though? Guessing not many, if any at all. I’m all for pedos getting their lives ruined, but if they aren’t facing any real punishment then what’s the point?

Nobody is talking shit about Alex because they don’t want pedos getting caught. We’re talking shit because he’s grossly incompetent at what he’s doing, and it’s highly likely that a lot of people will end up escaping justice entirely because he’s a fat retard who’s ignorant of how the law works.
 
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How many of them have actually gone to jail though? Guessing not many, if any at all. I’m all for pedos getting their lives ruined, but if they aren’t facing any real punishment then what’s the point?

Nobody is talking shit about Alex because they don’t want pedos getting caught. We’re talking shit because he’s grossly incompetent at what he’s doing, and it’s highly likely that a lot of people will end up escaping justice entirely because he’s a fat retard who’s ignorant of how the law works.
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Exactly. He has literally given children over to pedophiles to get footage. One of his own minors admitted to having been touched and kissed because of Alex. They say they catch predators, but it looks more like catch-and-release to me. If you are actively getting kids molested while not calling the cops on actual pedophiles, I struggle to see what makes you very different from the predators
 
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troon-cavern said:
Not a lolcow but I enjoy learning more about him. The outrage seems very manufactured and I'm struggling to understand why I should be mad at this guy. Alex and that other dude "Ghost/CC UNIT" have exposed several hundred child predators while providing mild entertainment. I always assume that when someone has a hateboner for Alex that they're a deviant themselves who just hates watching their kind be humiliated and exposed. Law enforcement doesn't seem to give a shit about online pedos trying to rape kids. Unless anyone has any better ideas, this is the best we have right now.

Edit- one of the people he caught made this thread

hi Alex I love you
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You're not supposed to get mad, but feel free to point and laugh at the flapjack-titted high school jock that found the one apparently socially acceptable way to bully people on camera in order to grift sheckles on a extremely dubious "good cause".

It's pathetic how many people chuck their common sense and critical thinking out the window because pedophilia is involved. Alex and every other online predator catcher doesn't become impervious to scrutiny because rape is bad, and in Alex's case he's a fucking scumbag. You might not find his outrageous hypocrisy and shameless self-promotion hilarious, but I do.

Going back to that dubious good cause: Most rapes are perpetrated by someone the victim knows, like a teacher, relative, co-worker. Online predator channels are addressing a fraction of what make up underage sexual assault using a business model that is essentially an entertainment venture. If they have a deep conviction that the police are not doing enough in this area, fine, but the answer isn't to commandeer the local grocery store to create a public spectacle, endangering the public by luring criminally perverted individuals that nobody knows what they are capable of or prepared to do to a place where actual children are present. And if one is to criticize these groups, who are unaccountable to anyone, the brainless response from the hivemind is that you must be a pedophile yourself.
 
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So, why aren't the authorities involved? This is obviously illegal.



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You're not supposed to get mad, but feel free to point and laugh at the flapjack-titted high school jock that found the one apparently socially acceptable way to bully people on camera in order to grift sheckles on a extremely dubious "good cause".
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Jocks are actually attractive. This dude looks like an Irish Shrek. Scratch that, he looks like Shrek raped a leprochaun, and the laprochaun had a baby.
 
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Funny enough I've known of this dude for a while. An acquaintance in a Discord server showed us videos that he was in with this dude.
acquaintance is black and as a bit during a sting at a grocery store, he rolls up with a shopping cart full of chicken and koolaid. pretty funny, but this stuff that's come out about this dude isn't so funny.
 
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He's an alchie retard by the looks of it, and im going to stress retard because he appeared on a mutual's of mines channel to stream himself calling a kids father to tell him that heas going to physically assault his underage son when said dude was like a lawyer or a judge or someshit

i told my friend to pull him off the stream and to delete the damn video

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Funny enough I've known of this dude for a while. An acquaintance in a Discord server showed us videos that he was in with this dude.
acquaintance is black and as a bit during a sting at a grocery store, he rolls up with a shopping cart full of chicken and koolaid. pretty funny, but this stuff that's come out about this dude isn't so funny.
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Alex's Chet Goldstein channel has been banned from Youtube.
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Cr1t's update

The EDP445 Situation Just Got Worse​


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He includes video of Alex asking a minor for pics, then to take his shirt off, do things with his mouth etc. He explicitly says he is sending this to pedos because that's what they are always requesting
 
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