Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Popoto]

People of sound mind kill themselves all the time, you transphobic bigot!

Surgery is considered a traumatic event in and of itself and a significant number of people do kill themselves even when the surgery is successful. Bariatric surgery leads the cohort in this (PDF link) then comes anything touching the brain. Amputation produces a lot as well, but there is a bit of overlap.

Perioperative mortality is defined as a death occurring within 30 days from the date of operation. If you look at it cynically, it is not a surgeon's fault if troons off themselves years later due to continuing complications, they simply became part of the 41%.

It's not worth getting roped into metaphysical arguments about what a "sound mind" is, all surgery has risks of mental sequelae and all surgery should be a last resort.

 

[Wyciwe]

Obviously NSFW and extremely fucked up. The first post is from this thread.

Spoiler: Arcing_Lights abdominal phalloplasty results.

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This is one thing I always about. They say once they get a rod or ballsack pump their fruit roll ups are just like cis mens but they aren't filled with erectile tissue. These gals do know when a dick is hard it doesn't just become pointed away from the body the dick gets engorged. Even if their franken dong is inflatable wouldn't it still be soft flesh. Imagine raw dough with a stick in it.

Also how "secure" are these things. Scar tissue is weaker than normal tissue right?

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

This is one thing I always about. They say once they get a rod or ballsack pump their fruit roll ups are just like cis mens but they aren't filled with erectile tissue. These gals do know when a dick is hard it doesn't just become pointed away from the body the dick gets engorged. Even if their franken dong is inflatable wouldn't it still be soft flesh. Imagine raw dough with a stick in it.

Also how "secure" are these things. Scar tissue is weaker than normal tissue right?

No, it's actually more resilient to breakage. Doesn't make the obvious seam attaching it to the mons any less horrifying.

 

[Westermarck]

Spoiler: Arcing_Lights abdominal phalloplasty results.

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To answer your question: no, there is no stimulation or feeling.

Jesus fucking Christ. That video gives me such a horrible, visceral feeling, just seeing the flesh in motion. Something about seeing the fake "penis" get manipulated like that, it's like my brain is sending signals of "THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG" - of course there fucking is, it's a sausage made of skin sewn onto someone's body. I know it's been said time and time again but this is straight up mutilation. It makes me think of war-time medical experiments. Absolutely horrifying.

 

[Gar For Archer]

Jesus fucking Christ. That video gives me such a horrible, visceral feeling, just seeing the flesh in motion. Something about seeing the fake "penis" get manipulated like that, it's like my brain is sending signals of "THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG" - of course there fucking is, it's a sausage made of skin sewn onto someone's body. I know it's been said time and time again but this is straight up mutilation. It makes me think of war-time medical experiments. Absolutely horrifying.

Look up Civil War-era facial reconstructions, they’re surprisingly good for being highly experimental procedures. You have guys with basically their entire lower jaw blown off being remodeled into something that looks pretty decent, all things considered.

I believe the problem with genital butchery isn’t that the medical ability isn’t there - it’s that the doctors don’t CARE about better results, they care about lowering the standards and the costs and the surgery time so that they can have more victims to butcher. You can tell this is the case when more than half the results don’t even look like they TRIED to make it look anything like a vulva.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Don't tell butchered men on r/trans surgeries that they are butchered.

Only one commenter says the sub shouldn't turn into a hugbox (it already is a giant hugbox tho where even the worst results are praised).

https://www.reddit.com/r/Transgender_Surgeries/comments/n0hx3o/be_mindful/?utm_source=reddit-android

 

[Internet's Boyfriend]

Spoiler: Arcing_Lights abdominal phalloplasty results.

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To answer your question: no, there is no stimulation or feeling.

Pictures are bad enough, but seeing these things in motion is even worse. The way she's twisting and pulling on it is fucking horrifying.

Where we're going, we won't need testicles to cum.

I hope the girlfriend finds the smiley face design to add an extra level of erotic delight.

I've seen a "cis" equivalent of this. It was horrible, but it wasn't for sex.

Spoiler: cis dick Coban story

Condom catheters are external male urinary catheters that look like a condom with a tube coming out of them. In an ideal world, where you were putting them on young men with reasonably-sized penises and no prostate issues, they'd work pretty well.

In practice, they're pulled off/wiggled off by demented men, or they just flop off of shriveled 80-year-old penises, or they roll up into themselves when a fat man's buried penis hides back in the fat pad again. Some of them have adhesive involved to counter this, but you're still trying to stick a floppy, wet piece of flesh into a taut sleeve. To sum up: implementation issues.

I met a woman who was the caregiver for both of her demented parents. Sometimes this happens out of love and devotion, sometimes from needs must, and sometimes this is the last stage of a family psychodrama that has been brewing since the 1960s and getting weirder every year.

This was probably the latter. She used a condom catheter for her incontinent father, and had developed a multi-stage routine for keeping the catheter on her dad's elderly penis, which she wrote out longhand for staff to follow inpatient. From memory:

• evert her dad's penis
• skin prep/adhesive on Dad's penis, hold while it dries
• single layer of roll gauze on shaft
• more adhesive, hold Dad's penis while it dries again
• Coban over gauze
• adhesive on Coban; at this point, her dad's penis was like a little papier-mache penis and didn't need to be held into shape, although you did have to keep his hands off of it
• apply condom catheter
• more Coban

In her defense, it worked pretty well, although I'm pretty sure most people don't spend that much time thinking about/hands on their dad's penis on the daily. Anyway, the implementation of the condom cath looked like a smaller version of this Frankendick's fuckmode, enough to stir the neurons to tell you all this awful tale.

I understand that sometimes it's necessary for children to care for their elderly parents but I never want to hear someone say the words "Dad's penis" ever again.

 

[fattie_boom_boom]

Spoiler: Her decision to get the double dick means she's more sane than cis ppl.

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This has got to be some of the most reetarded shit I have ever read in my life. Let me rephrase it for them:

"I, a tranny, cannot be crazy because more than one doctor found the following!

1) I'm not CURRENTLY in the middle of a florid psychotic break
2) I'm 18 years or older
3) My brain works like I'm 18 years or older, more or less (in other words, I can consent to fucking, for example... not that I ever have had sex)
4) I'm not clinically retarded... which would make it impossible for me to consent"

That's... that's it. Guess what other medical procedures, medicines, etc work like this? Fucking NONE. I can't go to my GP and say "hey doc I really really like heroin and you can't PROVE I'm crazy so get me a script for dilaudid and oxycodone, kay?" That shit wouldn't fly anywhere (yes, I'm aware of the *former* pill mills in places like Florida) these days. But that's the tranny argument? You can't say I'm actually (clinically) retarded so give me my Rx heroin, please.

Goddamn. Everytime I start to feel sorry for one of these hackjobs I just think about this kind of stuff. Or trannies talking about shit like uterus transplants "just so they can be the first trans person to have an abortion." I mean I couldn't give a fuck if you have an abortion, people do it all the time. But I'm pretty sure it's not easy for most people who have them and... that's just fucking *grim*, man. Fuck doing uterus transplants for sterile women who want to have a kid! Give it to the tranny so they can yeet a baby into the incinerator!

Fuck these absolute ghouls. Gimme my hats.

 

[Aunt Carol]

I understand that sometimes it's necessary for children to care for their elderly parents but I never want to hear someone say the words "Dad's penis" ever again.

It was even more striking face to face, and then in such nice penmanship.

We never discussed "Mom's vulva" at all; she just got to wear pullups.

 

[Popoto]

These gals do know when a dick is hard it doesn't just become pointed away from the body the dick gets engorged.

Porn has completely fucked peoples idea of how a penis looks like when it is not erect. Most are not aware of the existence of prosthetic penises, and they want to achieve the look of a fake thing.

When you compare the size and shape of these tubes to what people see in porn, it makes a lot more sense.

Also how "secure" are these things. Scar tissue is weaker than normal tissue right?

Depends on the nature and type of scar tissue. Scar tissue with heavy keloid formation (the red or white flesh you think of when people say "scar") is very tough, but contractures (the kind we sometimes see from flayed limbs for fleshpole harvesting) are very fragile and in rare cases normal movement may stress and tear the area.

I believe the problem with genital butchery isn’t that the medical ability isn’t there - it’s that the doctors don’t CARE about better results, they care about lowering the standards and the costs and the surgery time so that they can have more victims to butcher. You can tell this is the case when more than half the results don’t even look like they TRIED to make it look anything like a vulva.

You have a point, but it is a lot more complex than that as always.

Spoiler: sperg re surgery

A lot of what we see here is the results of a specific school of thought re surgery: "do this in the least number of moves". There is some merit to this superficially - every cut you make into a person increases the chance of things going wrong. It also does not help that surgery actually takes a considerable amount of physical exertion, so the longer surgery takes, the more tired you get.

There is also considerable sunk cost fallacy in action in surgery. Why don't surgeons stop the surgery once they realise the graft donor sites were not properly prepared (hair and tattoo removal, insertion of implants to yield more skin etc)? Sunk cost fallacy.

The surgery room is already booked, theatre nurses already scrubbed in, anaesthesiologist paid for (and has in some cases wandered off though this is against protocol), the referring doctor or intensivist is waiting, and all of this pressures the surgeon into thinking "the show must go on".

I also alluded to this in the other troon thread, but the average medical practitioner has anywhere between 100k-350k of student debt by the time they can be called a "doctor". The tremendous pressure of fuck I am thirty already and how do I pay this debt back turns people into drooling retards. Some families that produce doctors over several generations have generational debt.

Cosmetic surgeons are restricted by legislation or individual hospital policy and can only book ORs for x hours. So, on the surface, it isn't as though surgeons can book back to back with rush jobs.

Most cosmetic surgeons get around this by opening their own clinic, which in turn adds overhead to the student debt.

All in all it is a vicious cycle, and I wish I could say I am above it all, but reality is I gave up trying to pay my student debt. Also I refuse to go into surgery.

Don't tell butchered men on r/trans surgeries that they are butchered.

Ah yes, first we make acknowledging the person's sex a crime, now we make acknowlesging the person's bodily injury a crime.

This has to be the biggest bullshit scheme alongside "autism does not need to be cured" and "down syndrome people can contribute to society like normal people".

 

[Sustainable War]

In the screenshot above, I noticed Reddit user Arcing_Lights chimed in expressing her satisfaction with her own double dick surgery. Well, my curiosity got the best of me and I couldn't stop laughing upon seeing her uhh, unique results. What's even more wild is the idea that she is sharing her fake dick results above almost in a gleeful way. To me at least, it reads as if she's voluntarily saying "Yeah, and the surgery's results are universally perfect! So flawless, they're indistinguishable from reality. Feel free to see my many photos to be thoroughly convinced that absolutely nothing can go wrong." I'm sure gay dudes who see this atrocity just casually compliment it with a "nice dick, bro".

Obviously NSFW and extremely fucked up. The first post is from this thread.

Spoiler: Arcing_Lights abdominal phalloplasty results.

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To answer your question: no, there is no stimulation or feeling.

Spoiler: 5 weeks post op: wound seperation.

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Spoiler: 2.5 months post op

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Spoiler: Her decision to get the double dick means she's more sane than cis ppl.

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Is the second "dick" the little thing under that awful awful flesh tube she keeps abusing? If her gender dysphoria meant anything, it would have kicked in the minute she started treating her "penis" the way no fucking man ever would.

I'm curious how many of these young troons really get the government and/or insurance to pay for so much, vs how many of them use their parents' money/resources and either don't understand how it works or obfusicate the process to not sound bourgeoisie.

 

[Gar For Archer]

Is the second "dick" the little thing under that awful awful flesh tube she keeps abusing? If her gender dysphoria meant anything, it would have kicked in the minute she started treating her "penis" the way no fucking man ever would.

I'm curious how many of these young troons really get the government and/or insurance to pay for so much, vs how many of them use their parents' money/resources and either don't understand how it works or obfusicate the process to not sound bourgeoisie.

Technically, she doesn’t have ANY dicks because one is just a sensationless flesh tube (which is not a dick in ANY way, literally just a tube of flesh) and the other is an overgrown clit, which you can maybe argue is a bit closer to a dick because it at least is an organ you can derive sexual pleasure from.

 

[Putin Bot]

I find it funny that only TIFs want two dicks. While men sometimes joke about having two dicks, it's telling that no man actually has tried to achieve this. Same for TIMs and their desire to having a vagina installed while keeping the dick. Only troons want this abomination. You never hear of a sane person wanting hentai style genitals. Remind me again how they aren't mentally ill again?

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

I find it funny that only TIFs want two dicks. While men sometimes joke about having two dicks, it's telling that no man actually has tried to achieve this. Same for TIMs and their desire to having a vagina installed while keeping the dick. Only troons want this abomination. You never hear of a sane person wanting hentai style genitals. Remind me again how they aren't mentally ill again?

You don't understand. A ftm who wants 2 dicks is double male & double sane. That's why she deserves srs & the taxpayers have to pay. Transphobic gatekeepers need to stfu.

 

[repentance]

Cosmetic surgeons are restricted by legislation or individual hospital policy and can only book ORs for x hours. So, on the surface, it isn't as though surgeons can book back to back with rush jobs.

Most cosmetic surgeons get around this by opening their own clinic, which in turn adds overhead to the student debt.

Is the distinction made in the US between plastic surgery (surgery which relates to function) and cosmetic surgery (surgery which relates to appearance)? Half the time it seems like they're used interchangeably in relation to SRS.

 

[ClownBrew]

Somebody posts this just about every three months.

Which one-- "Dapper Hideaway V"?

 

[Shovel Mick]

Another poster asked this and got no response so:

How well connected are these surgical penises? Could you rip one off in an angry troon fight?

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Where we're going, we won't need testicles to cum.

I hope the girlfriend finds the smiley face design to add an extra level of erotic delight.

I've seen a "cis" equivalent of this. It was horrible, but it wasn't for sex.

Spoiler: cis dick Coban story

Condom catheters are external male urinary catheters that look like a condom with a tube coming out of them. In an ideal world, where you were putting them on young men with reasonably-sized penises and no prostate issues, they'd work pretty well.

In practice, they're pulled off/wiggled off by demented men, or they just flop off of shriveled 80-year-old penises, or they roll up into themselves when a fat man's buried penis hides back in the fat pad again. Some of them have adhesive involved to counter this, but you're still trying to stick a floppy, wet piece of flesh into a taut sleeve. To sum up: implementation issues.

I met a woman who was the caregiver for both of her demented parents. Sometimes this happens out of love and devotion, sometimes from needs must, and sometimes this is the last stage of a family psychodrama that has been brewing since the 1960s and getting weirder every year.

This was probably the latter. She used a condom catheter for her incontinent father, and had developed a multi-stage routine for keeping the catheter on her dad's elderly penis, which she wrote out longhand for staff to follow inpatient. From memory:

• evert her dad's penis
• skin prep/adhesive on Dad's penis, hold while it dries
• single layer of roll gauze on shaft
• more adhesive, hold Dad's penis while it dries again
• Coban over gauze
• adhesive on Coban; at this point, her dad's penis was like a little papier-mache penis and didn't need to be held into shape, although you did have to keep his hands off of it
• apply condom catheter
• more Coban

In her defense, it worked pretty well, although I'm pretty sure most people don't spend that much time thinking about/hands on their dad's penis on the daily. Anyway, the implementation of the condom cath looked like a smaller version of this Frankendick's fuckmode, enough to stir the neurons to tell you all this awful tale.

I wouldn't touch my dad's dick for all the money in the world.

 

[Deepland Bystander]

Another poster asked this and got no response so:

How well connected are these surgical penises? Could you rip one off in an angry troon fight?

It's just a rolled skin tube with no muscle inside. Think of earlobes. And there are cases where people who wear earrings, got one pulled out by force, and their ear split apart. So I think it's very possible to rip them off by hands.

But on the other hand, where would you get to fight these troons when they're naked in the first place?

 

[SnottieLottie]

Jesus fucking Christ. That video gives me such a horrible, visceral feeling, just seeing the flesh in motion. Something about seeing the fake "penis" get manipulated like that, it's like my brain is sending signals of "THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG" - of course there fucking is, it's a sausage made of skin sewn onto someone's body. I know it's been said time and time again but this is straight up mutilation. It makes me think of war-time medical experiments. Absolutely horrifying.

Another thing freaky about it is it’s so thin at the base but it gets fatter as you head towards the tip which is backwards and just a general heebie-jeebie inducing thing. Penises don’t look distorted by gravity even if a guy is packing serious heat.

Instead of a penis it looks like she’s playing with one of those popular “squishies” toys or a balloon full of custard; especially when she gives it the death squeeze. I was terrified it was going to pop.