The impact of beef is overplayed to distract you from real environmental issues - and to make you eat bugs goy

[Haim Arlosoroff]

I'm not going into the 3d printed concrete tube and fed bugs by lowered bucket like something out of Silence of the Lambs. I'm not going to do it, I would rather depopulate the earth in the fires of war and nuclear horror and roll the dice that I would both survive and want to survive in a world where I can eat at least eat BBQ chicken and pork. I can eat pork burger with fake Beef Liquid Stock flavoring, but I'm not eating the Gates Grasshopper #4. If I get a bug leg stuck between my teeth I'd make the Butcher of Waco David Chipman's whole anti-gun career.

 

[JohnLenin]

Eating bugs wouldn't be such a big deal if to push wasn't so inorganic, shit eating bugs is even normal in some parts of the world. Oh and the attempt to replace other foods by molding bugs into something that resembles it. Kinda reminds of shitty over processed "vegan" fad food like fake tofu meat, "chicken" made out of dough(it isn't really healthy lol). Over all shit substitutes which is funny because there's a variety of food to chose from, from many cultures that can be considered vegan and actually taste good.

 

[No. 7 cat]

roasted crickets are delicious.

If we sunk really low, we could eat escargot or snails like the beret wearers.

 

[Reverend]

If we sunk really low, we could eat escargot or snails like the beret wearers.

both are fucking disgusting and not enough sauce/seasoning to make them edible.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

If we sunk really low, we could eat escargot or snails like the beret wearers.

At no time should we emulate anything the French do; they've destroyed their country with mass importation, and they were partially responsible for the creation of Canada.

On topic - Factory farming is a massive and complicated process, and I will guarantee that there's no end of such farms that absolutely cut corners and ignore whatever environmental regulations apply. That doesn't mean that we need to inorganically force bugs/bug paste into peoples' diets, and I guarantee that the idiots that think that bugs as a wholesale solution to beef (or animal husbandry for human consumption, generally) will object to the massive petrochemical and artificially-produced alternatives that someone else mentioned are required to replace the numerous non-dietary products we get from beef and other animals.

 

[teriyakiburns]

At no time should we emulate anything the French do; they've destroyed their country with mass importation, and they were partially responsible for the creation of Canada.

On topic - Factory farming is a massive and complicated process, and I will guarantee that there's no end of such farms that absolutely cut corners and ignore whatever environmental regulations apply. That doesn't mean that we need to inorganically force bugs/bug paste into peoples' diets, and I guarantee that the idiots that think that bugs as a wholesale solution to beef (or animal husbandry for human consumption, generally) will object to the massive petrochemical and artificially-produced alternatives that someone else mentioned are required to replace the numerous non-dietary products we get from beef and other animals.

Vegans already don't give a shit. They consume huge quantities of petroleum-based "vegan alternatives" to animal skins and animal-sourced goods. They lie to themselves and everyone else about the provenance of their clothing and such. "It's vegan friendly!" means it came out of an oil well or a huge monoculture plantation in a former rainforest.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

Vegans already don't give a shit. They consume huge quantities of petroleum-based "vegan alternatives" to animal skins and animal-sourced goods. They lie to themselves and everyone else about the provenance of their clothing and such. "It's vegan friendly!" means it came out of an oil well or a huge monoculture plantation in a former rainforest.

It's not just that, it's the idiocy of their "preferred non-dairy alternatives" like soy and almonds, which require more water/lbs, once you account for growing it and processing it. The notion that the energy requirements of the entirety of those processes being significantly lower than cows milling about in a field until it's time to herd them to wherever they're be processed is something I'd have to see some data to believe.

There's a reason that California gets to claim "we're the highest grossing agricultural state in the Union!", it's because they have high-value shit like almonds, avocados, grapes, and the like growing there, which all require massive water input, which compounds the wildfire risks of uncleared brush and eucalyptus trees that explode to seed, and those wildfires contribute a shit-ton of smoke to the environment. That's ignoring the clear-cutting done in places like the Amazon for soy plantations.

As least Brazil isn't a complete clusterfuck, where biodiesel is concerned - they take the leftover sugar cane pulp and run it through whatever the biodiesel fermentation process is, which means they're doubling the value per bushel of their cane production. Meanwhile, when Mexico tried to do it with corn (which required using a substantial amount of the kernels, compared to waste material from the plant), they cause a shortage of corn for food products, a spike in prices for everything else because all the farmers had money from selling their corn to the gov't for the fuel refining process, and a general disruption of the economy.

 

[teriyakiburns]

they take the leftover sugar cane pulp and run it through whatever the biodiesel fermentation process is, which means they're doubling the value per bushel of their cane production.

I remember reading about that. They also power the sugar cane plants using whatever bulk fibre they can't process for molasses and fuel, to the point that they're occasionally net power producers.

I don't know much about US farming, but in the UK (and a significant part of the world iirc), beef is fed on grass and forage most of the year, on land that wouldn't be suitable for food crops. It's only dairy cattle that spends a significant amount of time indoors and eating feed, but even that is produced mostly from crops that humans can't eat, grown on land that isn't suitable for intense staple agriculture. In return, they fertilise the ground and encourage as diversity of wild flora that would be wiped out if the same land was (somehow, magically) used to grow food crops. We've developed a symbiotic relationship with herd animals over thousands of years, to the point that a significant portion of local ecosystems rely on their ongoing existence.

 

[Merry]

Anyone that says "eating beef is bad" in any context is fucking retarded. Beef, and meat in general, has Protein... something that is very vital for anyone's health.

I've been around people that have little to no protein and it's not fun. They become chemically imbalanced and act all weird and shit. Vegans (which my last ex was one) are the worst offenders of this shit. Even after claiming shit like Broccoli will give them the necessary Protein, they still are very mopey and moody and upset and miserable.

I've never met a healthy person who eats mostly carbs in my entire life. They look sickly and small, and are often stupid due to developmental issues and malnutrition effecting their brain.

Meanwhile every single person I've ever met who consumes primarily meat (not like a Chantal tier glutton ofc) is healthy and lively and active. This whole "MEAT IS BAD" thing is deliberate effort to feudalize the public imo.

 

[Merry]

Actual alternative is rabbit farms. They grow faster, eat less, and well, breed like rabbits.

Factory beef farms are bad actually. Cows are very inefficient at digestion, so they shit a lot. When that shit storage fails, and leaks into rivers etc, it causes problems. Also, giving healthy animals antibiotics to keep them healthy. Guess where all that piss flows..... Alex Jones was right about the frogs, except they actually have two heads.

However, we can't have an adult conversation about it, because these idiots just scream meat = murder. They want to abolish meat production all together. They have no actual plan. What do we do with the livestock dependent on humans? Just purge them and we all go vegan? A cow or a chicken has no actual IQ. Sorry, but even your dog is not self aware and sentient in the way humans are.

Major issue exists with rabbits: they are lacking in important vitamins and fats. While certainly delicious, they simply cannot compete with animals like lamb, pigs, or cows. There are records of Hudson Bay Company fur hunters starving to death over the winter despite eating a hearty diet of rabbit over that period because the rabbits simply lacked the nutrition to sustain them.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

Major issue exists with rabbits: they are lacking in important vitamins and fats. While certainly delicious, they simply cannot compete with animals like lamb, pigs, or cows. There are records of Hudson Bay Company fur hunters starving to death over the winter despite eating a hearty diet of rabbit over that period because the rabbits simply lacked the nutrition to sustain them.

The Hudson's Bay fur-trappers were dying of scurvy.

 

[Merry]

The Hudson's Bay fur-trappers were dying of scurvy.

I'm unsure about the exact medical cause of death, but if my recollection recalls correctly it was not scurvy. They were very aware of the threat scurvy posed, knew how to avoid and treat it since the early 18th century, and prepared for it extensively while wintering. They supplemented their diets with foraged roots and berries, but it was still not enough in that climate on only rabbit.

 

[Bad Gateway]

> eating beef

cringe

 

[Make Anime Illegal]

You know a video is based when there's tedposting in the comments.

 

[Billy Beer]

I'll take the advise to stop eating meat seriously when McDonald's is shut down. Until then, it's all a load of old arse.

Banning fast food would have a positive effect on health, wealth and the environment.

 

[Mnutu]

Major issue exists with rabbits: they are lacking in important vitamins and fats. While certainly delicious, they simply cannot compete with animals like lamb, pigs, or cows. There are records of Hudson Bay Company fur hunters starving to death over the winter despite eating a hearty diet of rabbit over that period because the rabbits simply lacked the nutrition to sustain them.

Rabbit Starvation is a genuine concern if you end up in a survival situation, though it’s less to do with nutrients and more to do with the leanness of the meat. Not an expert by any means, so I’m not sure if rabbit fat stores like cattle or even chicken.