Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[Private Pyle]

i thought vivian said no troons in her shows? isn't she a terf who knows troon men even if they get am holes will never EVER be women?

I think she meant there wouldn’t be in Hazbin Hotel, specifically. I think.
Personally I just find it amusing that Jinkx Moonsoon does a better job of pulling off a feminine voice.

 

[GaddafyTheLooneyDuck]

i thought vivian said no troons in her shows? isn't she a terf who knows troon men even if they get am holes will never EVER be women?

She isn't. Vivienne is actually one of those who supports outrage towards Rowling for her terf views. Anyway, are you really surprised? You're talking about a person who said that she doesn't want to include any real life stuff into her show, yet inserted Dahmer and half-assed message about climate change problems. It's not the first time when she completely contradicts her own statements.

They're gonna be minor characters, really. Especially Sallie.

Doesn't change the fact that she still made a troon character, despite saying that she won't make any.

 

[A Grey Cat]

She isn't. Vivienne is actually one of those who supports outrage towards Rowling for her terf views. Anyway, are you really surprised? You're talking about a person who said that she doesn't want to include any real life stuff into her show, yet inserted Dahmer and half-assed message about climate change problems. It's not the first time when she completely contradicts her own statements.


Doesn't change the fact that she still made a troon character, despite saying that she won't make any.

Eh can't say I'm angry at her... Just disappointed

 

[GaddafyTheLooneyDuck]

Eh can't say I'm angry at her... Just disappointed

You don't have to be angry, but by this point you should have known who is behind the wheel, if you have been following this thread for a while.

 

[Yamma Damma]

It here

That fucking ruled.
Great outfits, Millie's family, animation (when it was good it was REALLY fucking good), NORMAN REEDUS SWEET MOTHER HUBBARD AND HE SANG A SONG NOT BY FUCKING PARRY GRIPP THANK YOU GOD, Blitz having the best quotes, Moxie and Millie being great, Loona...not doing shit but still in character and the shock (but not really??) at the end.

*chef's kiss* No wonder they hyped this up so much. Good episode.

Being voiced by Norman Reedus, complete with singing, out of nowhere helps too; Maybe they'll reupload the episode with the frame drops fixed.

Doubt it. They'll probably do what anime does and have the "TV" version then edit it in post for the DVD and Blu Ray sets.

Spoiler: THE FENCE EXAMPLE

They confirmed she’s trans, her VA is too.
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That wasn't Brandon Rogers?! Holy shit I couldn't tell. I knew it was a dude trying to do a chick voice though. Guess I was right.

Wrong. Because Stolas is probably the best character aside from Alastor.

Stolas is good when he's ironically not around Blitz. Blitz is good at any time with anyone. Alastor could be the same but we need to see more.

She isn't. Vivienne is actually one of those who supports outrage towards Rowling for her terf views. Anyway, are you really surprised? You're talking about a person who said that she doesn't want to include any real life stuff into her show, yet inserted Dahmer and half-assed message about climate change problems. It's not the first time when she completely contradicts her own statements.


Doesn't change the fact that she still made a troon character, despite saying that she won't make any.

An sjw flip-flopping more than a fish on land? Well picture my surprise. Vivzie is also not the only one putting this stuff in. She's may be the captain but the crew keeps the ship sailing. Staffers put in extra shit and references/cameos all the time. It's more likely these things are others' ideas and personal hangups being proposed and Vivzie just "okay, whatever"s it and it shows up in the final print. Vivzie has enough of an IDGAF attitude to not think any meaningful backlash could arise from the fault of a staffer but she should still watch it. God help her if even one politician is referenced in this, dead or living.

 

[Mary the Goldsmith]

I liked this episode a lot, the part where Stolas' wife is talking to the hitman right in front of Stolas made me crack up

 

[AnOminous]

You're talking about a person who said that she doesn't want to include any real life stuff into her show, yet inserted Dahmer and half-assed message about climate change problems. It's not the first time when she completely contradicts her own statements.

She also threw in Cuties. I don't care because that was hilarious.

 

[A Grey Cat]

I liked this episode a lot, the part where Stolas' wife is talking to the hitman right in front of Stolas made me crack up

Ikr? You'd think it'd be setting up a plot thread for future episodes (and maybe it is) bit here she doesn't give a fuck if stolas knows she wants him dead for what he did with blitz. She just wants him dead and doesn't care if he knows that

 

[samuraicrack]

lmao how the fuck did they manage to bag Norman Reedus, I know he’s done voice stuff for Adult Swim cartoons but I’m shocked they managed to convince him to voice in an indie cartoon with no big financial backing

 

[AnOminous]

lmao how the fuck did they manage to bag Norman Reedus, I know he’s done voice stuff for Adult Swim cartoons but I’m shocked they managed to convince him to voice in an indie cartoon with no big financial backing

I think Reedus may actually just be a legit nerd and was already aware of the project.

 

[GaddafyTheLooneyDuck]

lmao how the fuck did they manage to bag Norman Reedus, I know he’s done voice stuff for Adult Swim cartoons but I’m shocked they managed to convince him to voice in an indie cartoon with no big financial backing

Reedus seems like an easy going guy who wouldn't mind hopping on a project if it seems fun enough to him. He even befriended Kojima and stayed with him for Death Stranding, after Konami snuffed P.T.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Man, that last scene with the gun twirl and pan over was super animated, god damn

 

[Racist Trash]

Man, that last scene with the gun twirl and pan over was super animated, god damn

Yeah it's really, really good which makes the bad parts stand out so much more.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

I think Striker might be my new favorite character. God, Reedus nailed his voice so well.

 

[Burgerasssand]

Man, that last scene with the gun twirl and pan over was super animated, god damn

Rather unfortunately the same cant be said for the rest of the episode, very jumpy and cluttered animation especially noticeable during the competition and the fist fight between Moxxie and Striker, its still very well illustrated but well below the standards set by the previous episodes.
Also found this gem of a still on /co/

 

[Drain Todger]

You all know Striker would've won if he had his trusty fetus bandolier.

 

[Spergenschütz]

Striker is a fucking awesome character and this episode is now one of my favorites so far. They hyped up the last 4 episodes as the Big 4 and I'm very excited and eager to see what will be coming next. Major props to the crew for making an awesome episode and I hope the next 3 episodes are just as great or even better.

I think she meant there wouldn’t be in Hazbin Hotel, specifically. I think.
Personally I just find it amusing that Jinkx Moonsoon does a better job of pulling off a feminine voice.

The earlier podcast I mentioned really only was for Hazbin Hotel. I doubt they talked about Helluva Boss much so I think you're right.

An sjw flip-flopping more than a fish on land? Well picture my surprise. Vivzie is also not the only one putting this stuff in. She's may be the captain but the crew keeps the ship sailing. Staffers put in extra shit and references/cameos all the time. It's more likely these things are others' ideas and personal hangups being proposed and Vivzie just "okay, whatever"s it and it shows up in the final print. Vivzie has enough of an IDGAF attitude to not think any meaningful backlash could arise from the fault of a staffer but she should still watch it. God help her if even one politician is referenced in this, dead or living.

I doubt Viv came up with them, as I personally see the transgender characters in the show as more of self-inserts/original ideas of the trans crew members. Viv is pretty good friends with the Crew in general and probably lets them put their self-inserts there freely as long as they're minor characters and don't affect the show's quality. There is Kaden Westbrook, a trans man storyboard artist while the voice actor Morgana Ignis is a trans woman, I believe that the trans man at the beach in Spring Broken is Kaden's request/self-insert while Sallie Jane is Morgana's self-insert.

 

[samuraicrack]

>have characters joke about murder and war and cannibalism all the time
>still use proper pronouns for trans characters who live in the Hell equivalent of the South
lmao okay



Also the novelty of Vivzie’s cartoons being so huge in scale for indie content is starting to wear off now that they’re hiring actors from The Walking Dead to do voice acting gigs for it

 

[GaddafyTheLooneyDuck]

I doubt Viv came up with them, as I personally see the transgender characters in the show as more of self-inserts/original ideas of the trans crew members. Viv is pretty good friends with the Crew in general and probably lets them put their self-inserts there freely as long as they're minor characters and don't affect the show's quality. There is Kaden Westbrook, a trans man storyboard artist while the voice actor Morgana Ignis is a trans woman, I believe that the trans man at the beach in Spring Broken is Kaden's request/self-insert while Sallie Jane is Morgana's self-insert.

That makes sense, but regardless, her constant flip-floping is really unprofessional at best. I mean, inserting or allowing a troon in her shows, despite saying that she won't, is not much of a biggie in my opinion anyway, especially if compared to her other bullshit, but at least it's kinda amusing how she sometimes goes back on her claims. It's not the first time that happens.

>have characters joke about murder and war and cannibalism all the time
>still use proper pronouns for trans characters who live in the Hell equivalent of the South
lmao okay

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Also the novelty of Vivzie’s cartoons being so huge in scale for indie content is starting to wear off now that they’re hiring actors from The Walking Dead to do voice acting gigs for it

That was really odd indeed. Millie's parents kinda reek of that smell from conservative Texan boomers who sure as fuck wouldn't be happy about their child trooning out, putting it lightly. At first I thought that Lin and Joe just close their eyes on it, because they all are really close as a family, more or less, but they're also ridiculing Millie for bullshite reasons, sometimes in Sallie May's (the name of Millie's troon sister) favor. Even by Helluva's absurdity that's not something suitable for such kind of parents at all.

Blimey, ayylmao. Can't fucking stand that moron.

As for Reedus. We already discussed that he could have joined because he found it fun and/or probably didn't charge that much. I don't think that him doing voice acting for Striker suddenly stops HB (not sure about Hazbin) from being indie. There are numerous indie pieces that feature well-known actors from high places. To name a couple, West of Dead has Ron Perlman voicing the protagonist, and upcoming War Mongrels has Doug "Geralt of Fucking Rivia" Cockle voicing one of the characters.

 

[The Marauder]

OH MY GOD