Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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I've been checked out for the last few hundred pages. (Needed a break from coronavirus, sticking to Kelly and Luna body horror type stuff.) I know some of us think the vaccine is the devil's microchip, but let's say I wanted to just get the vaccine passport and be able to go to a concert again.

Which vaccine, at this point, is looking the safest? (Especially for middle-aged women at risk of blood clots.) I trust this forum to have more intelligent science-literate people, where any other social media forum is all political posturing. (We'd have to "discourse" about "vaccine-shopping".) Has there been enough data collected on safety and side effects yet to compare?
Again just fake the shit and don't get a shot.
 
Right now I can't bring myself to get the vaccine for one simple reason: it will not change my life in the slightest. I still can't do what I want to do, I still can't work in the workplace or gather with friends anywhere. I still have to buy and wear masks. I would basically have to pretend that I never got the vaccine until it wears off six months later.

So why do it?
Daily reminder that there are states where there are no masks or shutdowns of any kind. I've been back to normal ever since I moved to one, I highly recommend it.

/laughs in red state
 
Saying someone is "anti-vax" because they won't take the COVID vaccine is like saying someone is "anti-plane" because they won't ride a hackjob plane rushed into production.
From a normies perspective the way things are being presented is that the Island you are on has a 5% maybe 10% chance of erupting and fallout will occur (potential) and the hackjob plane which is being hyped as a safer plane then the usual plane is the only way off for them and their family, so they decide to take the risk to save themselves. You can't blame them just let them do what they need to do.
 
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I am sick and tired but not surprised at the media up here absolutely failing to critically assess the British Columbian government's restrictions on travel within the province. The restrictions on travel are expressly unconstitutional, as they violate section 6b of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, the Canadian equivalent of the American Bill of Rights. Section 6b guarantees the rights of Canadians to travel within Canada. The Charter of Rights is not suspended by a provincial declaration of emergencies. It can only be suspended by the federal government invoking the Emergencies Act, which it hasn't done (and to do so under the conditions would be political suicide). The British Columbian government cannot invoke the notwithstanding clause of the constitution, which permits the governments to temporarily override certain sections of the constitution at their discretion, as that clause cannot be used to override section 6.

In any case, the government has not actually initiated enforcement of the order. If they do, anyone who is denied travel rights, or issued a fine under the order ($525 dollars, they say) has a case to sue the government to rescind the fine.

But really, fuck the media who either completely gloss over the human rights violations or don't even mention it. It's all bullshit cheerleading for expressly unconstitutional measures that won't even have any effect on the spread of the not-serious virus. The police cannot stop you for suspicion of violating the unconstitutional order. The police cannot ask you where you are going or what the purpose of your visit is. To do so is an absolutely illegal violation of your rights in Canada. And fuck all media outlets right up their cornholes for failing to describe to the public these undeniable facts which have been upheld consistently in case law.

I'm still going camping even if the restrictions are extended past the Victoria Day long weekend. I expect they will be because of course they will be. I plan to leave the city early and then drive for 2-3 hours until I get to Hope, the town east and north of which any hypothetical road checks would be set up, then check online if road checks are set up at that time. The government has said they will not be in place permanently throughout the time of the order, but will be put up every now and then just like anti-drunk driving road checks. (Those are determined to be constitutional when applied with the narrow focus of preventing drunk driving, unlike the travel ban, but I digress). If one is set up along the highway I need to take, I'll just pull over in Hope and chill out for a couple of hours, checking my phone until I hear the checks have been taken down. Then I'll continue on my merry way.

Sorry for the wall of text guys.
 
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Well John Campbell just lost a lot of supporters! Wonder who's now paying him.

He tried to state that covid numbers fell dramatically after the vaccination scheduling started. At the same time using a graph to 'prove it', that showed numbers were falling dramatically from September 2020, and by time (Jan onwards) the vaccines came out, the numbers have remained around the same.
 
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Daily reminder that there are states where there are no masks or shutdowns of any kind. I've been back to normal ever since I moved to one, I highly recommend it.

/laughs in red state
I told someone in my family that I'm considering moving to Florida. He was completely shocked.

I, on the other hand, was shocked that he was shocked.
 
You really are the most irritating cuntfaced dickhead. Why do you continue this ridiculous charade?


No, that's a lie. Try again.
That's bait, deal with the truth mate or not, reactions like this make me laugh and makes it all worth it, clearly the truth gets to you. Cope harder.

In Covid news

Covid: Australians could face jail or fines if they return from India​


Australian citizens returning home from India could face up to five years in jail and fines after the government made the journey temporarily illegal.
The health ministry said the ruling had been made "based on the proportion of people in quarantine who have acquired a Covid-19 infection in India".
Earlier this week, Australia banned all flights from India.
There are an estimated 9,000 Australians in India, 600 of whom are classed as vulnerable.
This will be the first time Australians have been criminalised for returning to their country, Australian media report.
One doctor told ABC that the government's move was disproportionate to the threat posed by those returning from India.
"Our families are quite literally dying in India overseas... to have absolutely no way of getting them out - this is abandonment," GP and health commentator Dr Vyom Sharmer said.

From Monday, anyone who has been in India within 14 days of their intended arrival date in Australia will be banned from entering the country.
Failing to comply with the new ruling could result in a five-year jail sentence, an A$66,000 (£37,000) fine, or both. The decision will be reviewed on 15 May, the health ministry said.
"The government does not make these decisions lightly," Health Minister Greg Hunt said in the statement.
"However, it is critical the integrity of the Australian public health and quarantine systems is protected and the number of Covid-19 cases in quarantine facilities is reduced to a manageable level."
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An erosion of rights​

Frances Mao, BBC News Sydney
There's an inscription inside the front jacket of every Australian passport. It calls for protection and assistance for citizens when they're in strife abroad.
"The Commonwealth of Australia… requests all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer, an Australian citizen, to pass freely without let or hindrance and to afford him or her every assistance and protection of which he or she may stand in need."
Who would have thought that Australians are now struggling to "pass freely" back into their own country? Re-entering and living in your nation is a basic aspect of citizenship. A right of return is recognised in international law, enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
But the problem for stranded Australians is that you can't argue a UN treaty in an Australian court. Citizenship rights - and many other freedoms - aren't guaranteed under their law. Australia lacks a human rights charter or explicit protections in its constitution.
So in an emergency situation, the government can make something a criminal offence overnight. At the height of the pandemic last year, the government beefed up its Biosecurity Act to give the health minister near unconditional powers bypassing parliament.
That's why citizens now trying to flee a danger zone can face jail for trying to come home. A legal challenge to this two-week ban will take time and be costly - public outrage and pressure may be the only effective remedy.
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The ministry said it had agreed with India to send emergency medical supplies, including ventilators and personal protective equipment.
"Our hearts go out to the people of India - and our Indian-Australian community," the statement added.

India has seen cases soar to 19 million and deaths total 200,000. The past week has seen more than 300,000 new cases reported each day.
Australia has implemented a series of strict measures to keep the virus out of the country since the pandemic began in February 2020. While the country is enjoying near zero infections rates and has had far fewer fatalities than most countries, the strict lockdown policies have left many Australians stranded overseas.
The ban on Indian arrivals this week has marked an escalation - the first time the country has stopped evacuations and blocked citizens from returning home altogether. It has intensified calls for more to be done to get Australians home.
 
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Lol, why do you still have the #Resist and #VoteBlue hashtags? And what does #FBR mean? is that something related to the two hashtags I've mentioned?
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Orange Man is gone and the entire entertainment industry and media is ridin' with Biden: who or what is he even resisting at this point? MyPillow?
 
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Orange Man is gone and the entire entertainment industry and media is ridin' with Biden: who or what is he even resisting at this point? MyPillow?
Right now it's a mix between Republican legislators who dare say that a man can't put on a dress and play women's sports and Tucker Carlson.
 
That's bait, deal with the truth mate or not, reactions like this make me laugh and makes it all worth it, clearly the truth gets to you. Cope harder.

In Covid news

Covid: Australians could face jail or fines if they return from India​

The ban on Indian arrivals this week has marked an escalation - the first time the country has stopped evacuations and blocked citizens from returning home altogether. It has intensified calls for more to be done to get Australians home.

It's not the first time, this is the same thing that happen with the Chinese when all this started.
There are so many people trying to circumvent the 'x to Australia ban', by going through another country first. We already know that there have been plane loads of Indians, who 'got out' of India just before the bans were put in place, and are now in Dubai and the UK.

Sure we all know that for the most part covid is a bunch of shit, in saying that, why take the risk, just in case there is something we don't know about the strains there at present. It's not like it's forever, it's 15 days. If they weren't such dirty fucks to start off with, they wouldn't be in this situation.
 
Sorry to post about the same thing again so soon, but it just fucking makes my blood boil to read censored mainstream media articles on the subject of the travel ban in my home province. The only very mild criticism they permit is quoting some social justice activists bitching and whining about the order targeting BIPOC disproportionately or some other made up bullshit. They don't show any concern at all for the mass, unprecedented human rights violations this entails. This is not a couple of black people being roughed up in police custody or a couple of homeless people being driven out into the sticks and dumped there. There are five million people in this province and the government is currently engaging in unconstitutional violations of the guaranteed rights of every single one of us.

And then there are the useful idiots who just say they wish it wasn't done sooner. I won't even get started on those jabbering jackasses.
 
The answer is: They don't want us dead, they want us to suffer.

That's what I heard: the endgame "they" have in mind is living cushy lives while lording it over the rest of the world - which is a miserable prison, a cybernetic soy hive of consumers.

Hell has way too much power in this world.


Reminds me of how drug cartels in Latin America did that sort of thing to people who break COVID restrictions. As well as police in India.

This circus really is something of Clown World (and hell).
 
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If they want us dead, the least they could do is give us the suicide booths from Futurama. The answer is: They don't want us dead, they want us to suffer.
Now they jump for joy.
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And it even says "get vaccinated, wear a mask" because of course you still have to wear a mask after getting the fucking shot. Don't you want to be a good boy and do what your corporate overlords who gladly secretly collect and sell your data tell you? It's not like they have anything to gain from the misfortune of the general populace...
 
Here in the free state of Florida, our surgeon general just released an advisory that the fully vaccinated do not need to wear masks anywhere, and do not need to worry about crowd size, distancing, etc.

 
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