But you still die at near the same rate if you contract covid after vaccination. It only reduced death by 28% from general population. They would have two red bricks on the vax side to three on the unvaxxed side.
I just read the NYT article about how herd immunity isn’t going to happen and I am legitimately bummed out. I’ve been compliant the whole pandemic and I feel like I’m in solitary confinement. It was one thing to ask us to do something difficult when we were chasing herd immunity, but it just isn’t rational to expect people to live this way for years or the rest of our lives.
I’m starting to seriously consider moving somewhere where people take their chances on the virus. I need to live somewhere with decent farmland within 30 miles of a medium sized or larger city. Low rates of dangerhairs and yard signs preferred. I’d like to be able to survive climate change for a while and not live in a heroin or meth belt, but beggars can’t be choosers. I like the vibe of Idaho but the real estate boom makes it basically unaffordable for me. Any recommendations?
I’m starting to seriously consider moving somewhere where people take their chances on the virus. I need to live somewhere with decent farmland within 30 miles of a medium sized or larger city. Low rates of dangerhairs and yard signs preferred. I’d like to be able to survive climate change for a while and not live in a heroin or meth belt, but beggars can’t be choosers. I like the vibe of Idaho but the real estate boom makes it basically unaffordable for me. Any recommendations?
I just read the NYT article about how herd immunity isn’t going to happen and I am legitimately bummed out. I’ve been compliant the whole pandemic and I feel like I’m in solitary confinement. It was one thing to ask us to do something difficult when we were chasing herd immunity, but it just isn’t rational to expect people to live this way for years or the rest of our lives.
I’m starting to seriously consider moving somewhere where people take their chances on the virus. I need to live somewhere with decent farmland within 30 miles of a medium sized or larger city. Low rates of dangerhairs and yard signs preferred. I’d like to be able to survive climate change for a while and not live in a heroin or meth belt, but beggars can’t be choosers. I like the vibe of Idaho but the real estate boom makes it basically unaffordable for me. Any recommendations?
If it makes you feel any better, note that articles like these are part of a push to redefine herd immunity as something that can only be achieved through vaccines, down to literally attempting to change the dictionary definition itself. They constantly ignore the fact that a vaccine does nothing different for you from an immunity standpoint that a standard infection already does. You wouldn't believe how many people actually think a vaccine is some kind of magic immunity juice, when all vaccines do is just prime your immune system with a weaker version of the disease in question to train it to recognize the real thing without putting yourself through such stress. Or at least, conventional vaccines work that way, I'm still not sold on how the mRNA shots are supposed to work.
Like I mentioned upthread, I am not an epidemiologist, but I would wager that we've had considerably more cases than any official tally recorded, many of which were mild enough to where the infected didn't see the need to get tested. We were already well on our way to herd immunity before the shots began rolling out. Relax and take a deep breath. Still probably a good idea to get out of blue states in general, as long as you don't intend on voting in the same dumbasses wherever you end up.
I just read the NYT article about how herd immunity isn’t going to happen and I am legitimately bummed out. I’ve been compliant the whole pandemic and I feel like I’m in solitary confinement. It was one thing to ask us to do something difficult when we were chasing herd immunity, but it just isn’t rational to expect people to live this way for years or the rest of our lives.
I’m starting to seriously consider moving somewhere where people take their chances on the virus. I need to live somewhere with decent farmland within 30 miles of a medium sized or larger city. Low rates of dangerhairs and yard signs preferred. I’d like to be able to survive climate change for a while and not live in a heroin or meth belt, but beggars can’t be choosers. I like the vibe of Idaho but the real estate boom makes it basically unaffordable for me. Any recommendations?
At the risk of getting off topic, let me bite into Climate Change.
Climate Change is a danger to species which have narrow temporal ranges, i.e. "cloud island" species at the tops of mountains, or literal island species adapted to living on low-laying coral atolls, or in the case of Florida a salamander species which has lost 99% of its inland home range thanks to agriculture and road development and now sits within storm surge range of saltwater inundation (salt = bad for amphibians).
Absolutely beyond the worst case climate projection, the US south ends up with permanent tropical weather.
If tropical weather killed people, there wouldn't be mass population clusters around the equator.
Sea level rise is bad because rich people have million to billion dollar beachfront properties that might end up with extra erosion, so when some rich fuck starts crying about the climate crisis, look up where all their houses are.
Climate change is real and climate change is bad, but there are worse issues for the environment (habitat loss, invasive species, habitat loss, overharvesting, habitat loss, point pollution, and most of all habitat loss); and Climate change is hardly an impending threat to humanity. Back on topic
If it makes you feel any better, note that articles like these are part of a push to redefine herd immunity as something that can only be achieved through vaccines, down to literally attempting to change the dictionary definition itself. They constantly ignore the fact that a vaccine does nothing different for you from an immunity standpoint that a standard infection already does. You wouldn't believe how many people actually think a vaccine is some kind of magic immunity juice, when all vaccines do is just prime your immune system with a weaker version of the disease in question to train it to recognize the real thing without putting yourself through such stress. Or at least, conventional vaccines work that way, I'm still not sold on how the mRNA shots are supposed to work.
You have to abandon what you know, and look at it from a different perspective.
COVID is new, its magical and its unlike anything we've seen before. Its a virus, and so its AIDS, Spanish Flu and Ebola, therefore we need to treat it like airborne Spanish InflEbolAIDS which justifies us assuming that it can break all the rules of biology.
Now from this standpoint, we can assume that reinfection is a magical trait that comes from the virus using magical powers that it gets from its novel status to make our immune systems forget they were exposed - but also a second exposure can be extra deadly double lethal.
However, fortunately scientists can science up a vaccine that works with the power of science (and compliance!), and much like how a fake trans vagina is better than a real vagina due to being manmade (people actually believe this), the vaccine immunity is better than real immunity due to being manmade.
Nope, I can't do it. Still sounds retarded to me...
Like I mentioned upthread, I am not an epidemiologist, but I would wager that we've had considerably more cases than any official tally recorded, many of which were mild enough to where the infected didn't see the need to get tested. We were already well on our way to herd immunity before the shots began rolling out. Relax and take a deep breath. Still probably a good idea to get out of blue states in general, as long as you don't intend on voting in the same dumbasses wherever you end up.
I just read the NYT article about how herd immunity isn’t going to happen and I am legitimately bummed out. I’ve been compliant the whole pandemic and I feel like I’m in solitary confinement. It was one thing to ask us to do something difficult when we were chasing herd immunity, but it just isn’t rational to expect people to live this way for years or the rest of our lives.
I’m starting to seriously consider moving somewhere where people take their chances on the virus. I need to live somewhere with decent farmland within 30 miles of a medium sized or larger city. Low rates of dangerhairs and yard signs preferred. I’d like to be able to survive climate change for a while and not live in a heroin or meth belt, but beggars can’t be choosers. I like the vibe of Idaho but the real estate boom makes it basically unaffordable for me. Any recommendations?
Don't get distressed. As other's have said, this was never going away anyhow. We missed the window to eliminate it and it was bound to just become endemic. That doesn't mean that it's the end of the world or humanity. It doesn't have to be unless we lay down and accept the shackles and permanent pethood to our betters. Even if wuflu was genetically engineered, left to its own devices it will still trend towards becoming more mild so it can have a niche with the other cold viruses.
Consider all the really miserable plagues of the past. Your ancestors lived through those and left you a world that at least had a convincing illusion of freedom. Spanish flu might have sucked (and was way more deadly and had no vaccine), but eventually it burnt itself out into the background flu strains and life went on. We still had the world of 2019, for all it's shitty problems and limitations, but we were at least back to being around people and just living life. It can happen again if we take a stand for it at some point. We just need to be willing to let go of hygiene theater and accept that we're never going to win the War on Death, so we might as well make the most of the time we have.
Also if you are a fatty getting a Large meal or three at the golden arches, you should probably make peace with the fact you've been on Team Death for sometime now. Still your personal choice, but let's not pretend that isn't sabotaging the goal of maximizing lifespan.
Okay, is there a place to find land in Idaho I don’t know about? People are very confident in their “Idaho land is cheap” thing but the ag land prices I see are high. I get that there are parcels of cheap seeming land, but most of them don’t have water rights.
At the risk of getting off topic, let me bite into Climate Change.
Climate Change is a danger to species which have narrow temporal ranges, i.e. "cloud island" species at the tops of mountains, or literal island species adapted to living on low-laying coral atolls, or in the case of Florida a salamander species which has lost 99% of its inland home range thanks to agriculture and road development and now sits within storm surge range of saltwater inundation (salt = bad for amphibians).
Absolutely beyond the worst case climate projection, the US south ends up with permanent tropical weather.
If tropical weather killed people, there wouldn't be mass population clusters around the equator.
Sea level rise is bad because rich people have million to billion dollar beachfront properties that might end up with extra erosion, so when some rich fuck starts crying about the climate crisis, look up where all their houses are.
Climate change is real and climate change is bad, but there are worse issues for the environment (habitat loss, invasive species, habitat loss, overharvesting, habitat loss, point pollution, and most of all habitat loss); and Climate change is hardly an impending threat to humanity. Back on topic
You have to abandon what you know, and look at it from a different perspective.
COVID is new, its magical and its unlike anything we've seen before. Its a virus, and so its AIDS, Spanish Flu and Ebola, therefore we need to treat it like airborne Spanish InflEbolAIDS which justifies us assuming that it can break all the rules of biology.
Now from this standpoint, we can assume that reinfection is a magical trait that comes from the virus using magical powers that it gets from its novel status to make our immune systems forget they were exposed - but also a second exposure can be extra deadly double lethal.
However, fortunately scientists can science up a vaccine that works with the power of science (and compliance!), and much like how a fake trans vagina is better than a real vagina due to being manmade (people actually believe this), the vaccine immunity is better than real immunity due to being manmade.
Nope, I can't do it. Still sounds retarded to me...
You're not an epidemiologist, but actual tenured epidemiologists have said the same thing.
Must be a bunch of grifters.
Interesting points, and I hear you. I’m mostly concerned about water and pollution. 100% of farmers I’ve met and talked to over the past decade are concerned about climate. Not in a “we’re all going extinct” way, but because when your livelihood depends on weather factors outside your control, it really matters if the rains come when they always have, if late frosts kill your blossoms, etc. Farmers are mostly old white guys and not progressives or whatever, but climate is on everyone’s mind. We don’t all agree with what’s causing the changes, but everyone can see that change is happening. It isn’t theoretical for farmers and ranchers.
Over the long term I mostly agree that we will adapt, but over the course of your own lifetime, the changes may move faster than you can. That’s just how I see it.
Okay, is there a place to find land in Idaho I don’t know about? People are very confident in their “Idaho land is cheap” thing but the ag land prices I see are high. I get that there are parcels of cheap seeming land, but most of them don’t have water rights.
Fauci simps are a gold mine and this is from the whole joe rogan situation.
We seriously thread for those people, but it'll be redundant since we have this.
I just read the NYT article about how herd immunity isn’t going to happen and I am legitimately bummed out. I’ve been compliant the whole pandemic and I feel like I’m in solitary confinement. It was one thing to ask us to do something difficult when we were chasing herd immunity, but it just isn’t rational to expect people to live this way for years or the rest of our lives.
I’m starting to seriously consider moving somewhere where people take their chances on the virus. I need to live somewhere with decent farmland within 30 miles of a medium sized or larger city. Low rates of dangerhairs and yard signs preferred. I’d like to be able to survive climate change for a while and not live in a heroin or meth belt, but beggars can’t be choosers. I like the vibe of Idaho but the real estate boom makes it basically unaffordable for me. Any recommendations?
Okay, is there a place to find land in Idaho I don’t know about? People are very confident in their “Idaho land is cheap” thing but the ag land prices I see are high. I get that there are parcels of cheap seeming land, but most of them don’t have water rights.
Okay, is there a place to find land in Idaho I don’t know about? People are very confident in their “Idaho land is cheap” thing but the ag land prices I see are high. I get that there are parcels of cheap seeming land, but most of them don’t have water rights.
You're really thinking about going full Jean de Florette in NOW, in May 2021, when even the bluest of blue states and cities are walking back their re,tarded restrictions? I hope you're serious dude because that's fucking hilarious and a vast improvement over the past 50 pages of cancer in this thread.
