Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[noco]

His only chance to lose weight would be to get on amphetamines imo, I'm a little surprised his mom hasn't put him on them yet.

Maybe we'll see an amphetamine addiction and rapid weight loss arc if he ever goes to Harvard.

 

[sperginity]

I disagree with your interpretation of Jazz's behavior. You are not the first one who says that Jazz is very spoiled, and I don't get it... How is he spoiled? I actually think he is and was a pleaser, a child who looked to please his mother, and boy did it cost him.

Both of these things are true, and aren't contradictory because of the pathology in the family. Normal parents are pleased by behavior that will give children independence in the long run, pathological parents are pleased by behavior that damages the children for the parent's benefit. Jazz's mom is pathologically narcissistic and rewards spoiled behavior from jazz, but not the other kids in the family. Jazz has special status among the children in the house, the status is granted by his mom, and it is conditional upon jazz being what his mom wants him to be. He is never loved for who he is, but at least he is preferred as long as he does what his mom wants. That status can be revoked if jazz deviates too far from what jeannette wants, and Jazz's mom wants him to be spoiled. The mother is spoiled too, and believes that is an okay thing to be if you are as great as she is. In the criteria for narcissistic personality disorder there is a subsection about believing that there is a group of special people in society that can break rules, and that narcissists should not have to care about people who are outside of that group. It is a known part of the disorder. In order to please the mother jazz leans into the spoiling, though it may be something that he wanted to do anyway.

I know jazz is spoiled because of the episodes I recapped. Specifically there is one where jazz talks about having a day camp for trans kids. He says it on a whim in the car and jeannette says she will do it "but you're going to have to work hard this time, ok?" like he doesn't usually. But in the end he doesn't actually do much work at all and the chick that co-authored jazz's childrens book does most of it. On a different episode jazz wants to move out and his mom wants him to stay. In that one, the grandmother literally says to Jeannette "you've never told jazz 'no', you always give in". Jeannette never denies that she parented that way. The time that they do put their foot down is when jazz wants to move out at age 18, which is a healthy and normal thing for an 18 year old, so naturally a cluster b parent will put their foot down when their kid does something good for themselves. Its very backwards if you aren't familiar with this specific kind of dysfunction. Most of us know of parents that may have fucked up massively, but never because they didn't genuinely want the best thing for their own kids. This type of parent though...they can't see past themselves to separate what they want personally from what is best for someone else. Its one in the same for them, always, so they actively punish good behavior. They encourage bad behavior. When the kid goes out into the world and finds that everything works exactly the opposite of the way it did at home, they are completely bewildered. they tend to retreat to the parent or find a relationship with someone who is just as fucked up, just so they don't feel so disoriented.

 

[Muttnik]

I didn't sit through hours of Jazz whining, crying, and throwing tantrums for some of you goobers to claim he isn't spoiled. He is. He's 100% a victim, but he is.

 

[NerdShamer]

"I use food as a way to escape reality and just not be concerned about the things I gotta be concerned about"

"if I look at my body in the mirror I can clearly that I've gained weight, I'm not really happy with that image. However, I just love food so much, It makes me feel comfortable and safe and happy

Yeah, these two are red flags for an eating disorder. Makes you wonder why he didn't get therapy for it, aside from Narc Mom, of course.

Okay but like...look at his hands and feet. His hands are HUGE. I'm not sure because of fat or because they're male hands. The feet and ankles are a different story. I've seen those kinds of ankles around diabetic relatives.

It's more of an fat thing, given how small his fingers are in comparison to his bloated arms.

I didn't sit through hours of Jazz whining, crying, and throwing tantrums for some of you goobers to claim he isn't spoiled. He is. He's 100% a victim, but he is.

Why you didn't post this?

It's one of the main reasons why he can't dig himself out of this hole because he just wants to sit there and take it.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Yeah, these two are red flags for an eating disorder. Makes you wonder why he didn't get therapy for it, aside from Narc Mom, of course.

Because, as video above shows, he doesn't want to. He threw a tantrum when his mom said he needed one because she doesn't know how to deal with all his shit.

She just gave up, proving that, indeed, she doesn't know how to deal with her child's shit and just let him be and do whatever he wants as long as he's under her sight.

The relationship Jazz has with his mother isn't that much complicated. Jeannette doesn't want him to go from her side, so she gives him anything he needs. If she pushes therapy too much, Jazz can just pack his bags and leave. OTOH, he feels protected living at home because he doesn't have to face the world with a mutilated body. It's a very strange dynamic, but the pattern is that Jazz always ends up doing whatever he wants because Jeannette needs him around.

 

[Scrumption]

Seeing how poorly adjusted and mentally immature she is, I can't help but wonder if she would have had any mental illness at all if she grew up with normal parents. Were that the case, Jazz would be a completely different person.

On another note, Jeannette is beyond overbearing. Most teenagers rebel against their parents in some way, and this often results in some independence. Given how much Jeannette controls and isolates Jazz from the real world, does anyone know if Jazz has ever had a phase where she rebels against her parents?

If Jazz hasn't, I wonder if perhaps it is because she never went through puberty and hormones would have caused the attitude shift.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

Seeing how poorly adjusted and mentally immature she is, I can't help but wonder if she would have had any mental illness at all if she grew up with normal parents. Were that the case, Jazz would be a completely different person.

On another note, Jeannette is beyond overbearing. Most teenagers rebel against their parents in some way, and this often results in some independence. Given how much Jeannette controls and isolates Jazz from the real world, does anyone know if Jazz has ever had a phase where she rebels against her parents?

If Jazz hasn't, I wonder if perhaps it is because she never went through puberty and hormones would have caused the attitude shift.

Normal how? Normal as in not promising they'll cut off his penis when he grows up and allowing him to grow up as a healthy male?
All his neuroses is a result of Jeanette's constant, everpresent abuse throughout his childhood, as well as her technically refusing to raise him. You'd be surprised what constantly being told "you're in the wrong body but I'll fix it" since four can do, imagine the neuroses of someone who hypothetically had been raped every day in their formative years and you've got basically the same shit.

 

[NerdShamer]

does anyone know if Jazz has ever had a phase where she rebels against her parents?

"Rebellious" as in "occasionally steals the family van out to binge eat"?

 

[66andtwothirds]

he's rivalling nikocado for "which fat homo can balloon the quickest"

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Jazz is the only lolcow who I find sympathetic. I've been on the inside of major depression and feeling like your life is totally out of your control. Depressed people are selfish and lazy. And with mental illness, you can't just tell people to not be mentally ill any more than you can tell a person with nearsightedness to just see better.

One of the things that I find strange and interesting about people nowadays is how almost everyone has their own brand. You can see this on Twitter or Facebook, where some people are funny, some people are philosophical, some people share content from others, some people create their own content, some people take selfies, some people take pix of their food or dogs or whatever. Your interests and hobbies are part of your brand. I'm an oldfag so I know that what I share on social media is just a reflection of who I am and it's a carefully curated role. It's a character I have created who is inspired by the real KiwiFuzz but who is not to be confused with the real KiwiFuzz.

With Jazz, he's never had a moment in his life where he wasn't a brand, and there's never been a clear delineation between Jazz the brand and Jazz the person. I read an article a few years back that I can't find now about a shrink whose entire practice was people who had been on reality shows. You go on the show thinking you're going to be the sexy life of the party and you watch the show and -- oh shit -- you're the cunty bitch who everyone rags on. That's Jazz's entire life.

One of the things that strikes me about Jazz is how little personality he seems to have and how he seems kind of dumb, not in a malevolent way but in a dim bulb kind of way. If he wasn't trans, what would his interests, hobbies, passions, cares, and concerns be? The thought of him going to Harvard seems preposterous in part because I, for one, don't see him getting passionate about Latin American history or tropical plant allelopathy or Irish poetry or other intelligentsia interests.

But I think part of the apparent immaturity and lack of personality comes from having no identity outside The Brand.

He seems like he would be happy taking a few classes in fashion design and pooping out flowy beach clothes. Open a boutique. Hire a factory in Bangladesh to do all the actual construction. If he really wanted to fill a niche, there's a HUGE market out there for bras for trannies. Design jewelry to go with the clothes. Sell size 11 strappy shoes.

I could also see a saga where he gets into organic food and moves to a lesbian commune or some shit. Or party planning, or making weird art.

He's lucky that he's in a space where he can parlay his existing public image into a low-effort career selling lifestyle shit to rich people.

But right now, anything less than Harvard is seen as crashing and burning in a very public way. And again, with anxiety and depression, not doing anything is "safer" than doing something and having it go badly.

In unrelated news, here's an article in The Atlantic about why you shouldn't neuter your dog too early.

The Quietly Changing Consensus on Neutering Dogs

A growing body of research has documented the health risks of getting certain breeds fixed early—so why aren’t shelters changing their policies?

www.theatlantic.com

 

[66andtwothirds]

In unrelated news, here's an article in The Atlantic about why you shouldn't neuter your dog too early.

The Quietly Changing Consensus on Neutering Dogs

A growing body of research has documented the health risks of getting certain breeds fixed early—so why aren’t shelters changing their policies?

www.theatlantic.com

-"there are health risks to neutering dogs so young"

- "what about children?"

- (surprised pikachu face)

they lie as easily as they breathe.

 

[rocknrollmartian]

With Jazz, he's never had a moment in his life where he wasn't a brand, and there's never been a clear delineation between Jazz the brand and Jazz the person. I read an article a few years back that I can't find now about a shrink whose entire practice was people who had been on reality shows. You go on the show thinking you're going to be the sexy life of the party and you watch the show and -- oh shit -- you're the cunty bitch who everyone rags on. That's Jazz's entire life.

There's a fiction book called Every Heart a Doorway about a halfway house for kids who had temporarily escaped to fantasy worlds similar to Hogwarts or Narnia and can't adjust to the real world or accept that they can't go back to being special and powerful. Sort of wild that there are real therapists who have to help people get through their own reality TV fantasies, but it makes sense. Former child stars are in the same vein.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

-"there are health risks to neutering dogs so young"

- "what about children?"

- (surprised pikachu face)

they lie as easily as they breathe.

The Atlantic is a terrific source for TERFery and race realism if you read the right articles, and I do.

 

[Carnavoyeur]

The whole weight gain thing is even more shocking when you read all these trans propaganda articles about Jazz being a hero and overcoming depression & becoming a true & honest girl.

Everything is a lie. His life isn't a fairy tale, it's a horror story.

I dunno man, I'd say for the majority of us when we are severely depressed, hate ourselves and/or have experienced deep emotional and mental trauma caused by our parents we tend to eat ourselves into deathfat territory, so he's on the right track.

This both is and is not a powerlevel.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

well, the difference is that even the most depressed person can always get proper help and fix their life. Many people have managed to beat depression, get a job, start a family, and become successful. It's hard, but it happens.

No matter how much help Jazz gets, part of his (real) recovery would include accepting that what happened to him was abuse and once the realisation sinks in, he's gonna be emotionally on very thin ice. What I mentioned above, it's probably never going to happen to him. David Reiner got married, but he still killed himself. Therapy is not going to make his penis grown back and function.

And sure, if he ever escapes his mother, hes' gonna read all the things we all write about him (not just here, but everywhere): how he's never gone through puberty and he's never going to be a normal person, how he's never going to have sex or have an orgasm, how he's never going to experience lust, and all things he's been denied because his parents wanted to be trendy.

The chances of Jazz killing himself are very high, tbh. It's sad, but it's a reality.

 

[hogdogmog]

I'm a bit curious as to what Jazz actually does all day. The traditional depressed NEET hobbies of video games and masturbation don't seem to apply.

 

[mental illness innit luv]

I'm a bit curious as to what Jazz actually does all day. The traditional depressed NEET hobbies of video games and masturbation don't seem to apply.

He eats. A lot.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

I'm a bit curious as to what Jazz actually does all day. The traditional depressed NEET hobbies of video games and masturbation don't seem to apply.

Eating, dilating, crying, making tik tiok videos

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Many people have managed to beat depression, get a job, start a family, and become successful. It's hard, but it happens.

The chances of Jazz killing himself are very high, tbh. It's sad, but it's a reality.

Hell, even eunuchs do well as long as they have things like palace intrigue & wealth to amass; all Jazz has been left with is drama & junk food.

He seems to subconsciously be commiting a form of slow-motion suicide. With as intrusive as Jeannine is, he probably knows she'll stop at nothing to detect & prevent any other method from coming close to succeeding.

But before that happens.... I'm gonna go out on a limb & predict she'll kick him to the curb in favor of his siblings, once Jazz's weight & behavior reaches a point where it simply costs too much (in money and face) to keep up appearances or maintain those expensive surgical corrections.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

Eating, dilating, crying, making tik tiok videos

Don't forget the dilating is more like rape.
So it's more like eating, crying, eating while crying, being raped by his mother with a dilator, dilating while crying...