The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

[Berrakh]

Bruh I ain't talking legally to most people if something has no awareness and can't feel pain it's not alive.

Unless you believe in the concept of the human soul that is, there's a reason the Pro-Life movement is deeply tied to religion.

Most Pro-Life arguments that aren't rooted in religion appeal to emotion and rely on misconceptions about what abortion is. They also seem to run on the delusion that walking trashfires will magically turn into super-mom after popping out a kid or just straight up don't give a damn about what happens to the kid after it leaves the womb which makes me think this is less about saving the babies and more just people being pissy that women are having sex.

But the reason we know she's a bad mom is she kills her child

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

But the reason we know she's a bad mom is she kills her child

A fetus isn't a child, tho

 

[Berrakh]

A fetus isn't a child, tho

And somehow that eugenic argument still rhymes perfectly with what the other dude was saying as if it was.

 

[Lemmingwise]

And somehow that eugenic argument still rhymes perfectly with what the other dude was saying as if it was.

"don't give a damn about what happens to the kid after it leaves the womb which makes me think"

By own words it's a kid even while still in the womb.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

Bruh I ain't talking legally to most people if something has no awareness and can't feel pain it's not alive.

Unless you believe in the concept of the human soul that is, there's a reason the Pro-Life movement is deeply tied to religion.

Most Pro-Life arguments that aren't rooted in religion appeal to emotion and rely on misconceptions about what abortion is. They also seem to run on the delusion that walking trashfires will magically turn into super-mom after popping out a kid or just straight up don't give a damn about what happens to the kid after it leaves the womb which makes me think this is less about saving the babies and more just people being pissy that women are having sex.

Even educated people I have known in real life buy into abortion being ''A baby ripped limb through limb''. It's actually shocking how many believe this is what abortion is.

 

[Rekkington]

Even educated people I have known in real life buy into abortion being ''A baby ripped limb through limb''. It's actually shocking how many believe this is what abortion is.

Depending on how far along it is, that's literally what happens. You saying that many educated people believe this should let you know there might be more to it than you think.

Bruh I ain't talking legally to most people if something has no awareness and can't feel pain it's not alive.

So people in a coma are not alive? Cause you can feel babies kicking and moving pretty early on, which seems to imply they are more human than someone who got hit in the head really hard.

They also seem to run on the delusion that walking trashfires will magically turn into super-mom after popping out a kid or just straight up don't give a damn about what happens to the kid after it leaves the womb which makes me think this is less about saving the babies and more just people being pissy that women are having sex.

That is not the pro-life argument. That is the pro-choice argument, that if someone is not ready to be supermom they shouldn't have a child. In which case, you should go into every single poor neighborhood and impoverished nation, or really any single-mother situation, and tell all their children that they would be better off if they killed themselves. Or you can ask them if they'd rather be dead, see what they say.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

That is not the pro-life argument. That is the pro-choice argument, that if someone is not ready to be supermom they shouldn't have a child. In which case, you should go into every single poor neighborhood and impoverished nation, or really any single-mother situation, and tell all their children that they would be better off if they killed themselves. Or you can ask them if they'd rather be dead, see what they say.

There's plenty of poor mothers that are great mothers, but a woman who doesn't want to be a mother but is forced to because retards like you want to punish her for having sex usually don't make good parents. Especially when they're poor and you retards also don't want to expand benefits to them

 

[Marshal Mannerheim]

Welcome back to another round of ”Let's see who doesn't understand Catholic social teaching”.

Today's top prize goes to this comment:

they're poor and you retards also don't want to expand benefits to them

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Welcome back to another round of ”Let's see who doesn't understand Catholic social teaching”.

Today's top prize goes to this comment:

I do understand it, but it's ironic how you tards don't give a shit about the offspring after its born. You just want to punish women for having sex because they won't fuck you

 

[Governor Jeb Bush]

With the amount of cunts on this planet i want 20, 40, 50 year term abortions tbh

 

[CheezzyMach]

Depending on how far along it is, that's literally what happens. You saying that many educated people believe this should let you know there might be more to it than you think.


So people in a coma are not alive? Cause you can feel babies kicking and moving pretty early on, which seems to imply they are more human than someone who got hit in the head really hard.


That is not the pro-life argument. That is the pro-choice argument, that if someone is not ready to be supermom they shouldn't have a child. In which case, you should go into every single poor neighborhood and impoverished nation, or really any single-mother situation, and tell all their children that they would be better off if they killed themselves. Or you can ask them if they'd rather be dead, see what they say.

Riiight because it's not like there's an ongoing debate about Euthanasia for that exact reason or anything.

Lol I live in the Deep South moron there are plenty of unwanted kids born to trashfires who are treated like shit here. My sister's fostering one of them because their mother would rather do drugs and party hard then take care of him and their step-father is an abusive pos who can't keep out of jail.

Now imagine what would have happened to this kid if my sister wasn't in the picture and you might understand why I'm Pro-Choice and don't support forcing unfit mothers to give birth cause JAYSUS SEZ SOW.

 

[CheezzyMach]

"don't give a damn about what happens to the kid after it leaves the womb which makes me think"

By own words it's a kid even while still in the womb.

Yes and I've repeatedly said a fetus has no awareness and isn't considered a child until the 3rd trimester as per science.

And even the pro choicers in this thread aren't advocating late term abortion in fact we've told you morons it rarely happens because usually if the woman's that far along she wants to keep the baby.

Are you legit retarded?

 

[Rekkington]

Riiight because it's not like there's an ongoing debate about Euthanasia for that exact reason or anything.

What is the ongoing debate? Because the debate seems to center around people recognizing that this person is a real person and they are commiting murder, but whether or not murder is justified. This is the center of the assisted suicide debate as well.

Lol I live in the Deep South moron there are plenty of unwanted kids born to trashfires who are treated like shit here. My sister's fostering one of them because their mother would rather do drugs and party hard then take care of him and their step-father is an abusive pos who can't keep out of jail.

Okay, so go ask those kids if they would rather be dead.

Now imagine what would have happened to this kid if my sister wasn't in the picture and you might understand why I'm Pro-Choice and don't support forcing unfit mothers to give birth cause JAYSUS SEZ SOW.

You have outlined a situation where even with unfit mothers, family and society find a way. You have not provided an example for why that child would be better off dead. You should ask the sister if they wish the child were dead, as well.

 

[CheezzyMach]

What is the ongoing debate? Because the debate seems to center around people recognizing that this person is a real person and they are commiting murder, but whether or not murder is justified. This is the center of the assisted suicide debate as well.

Okay, so go ask those kids if they would rather be dead.

You have outlined a situation where even with unfit mothers, family and society find a way. You have not provided an example for why that child would be better off dead. You should ask the sister if they wish the child were dead, as well.

People like my sister are the exception not the rule dumbass most people who foster kids don't give a shit about them and they end up either abused or bounced from home to home. Just like you spergs admitted you don't give a shit about these babies post birth in this thread.

But thanks for proving my point that you can't make an argument that doesn't rely on appeal to emotion or religion.

 

[Lemmingwise]

People like my sister are the exception not the rule dumbass most people who foster kids don't give a shit about them and they end up either abused

But even android raptor prefers not to kill herself. Why is that?

 

[Rekkington]

People like my sister are the exception not the rule dumbass most people who foster kids don't give a shit about them and they end up either abused or bounced from home to home.

Okay so those kids should kill themselves?

Just like you spergs admitted you don't give a shit about these babies post birth in this thread.

I do care about babies. I do not want babies to die. Here's something to blow your mind: a person can be against capital punishment, but also not in favor of personally taking care of every prisoner. Being against murder does not make you a communist, you dumb cunt.

But thanks for proving my point that you can't make an argument that doesn't rely on appeal to emotion or religion.

I never once mentioned religion, I restricted this to murder and you doubled down on the premise that if a parent is unfit then the child should not exist. This is a cruel and inhuman position for you to take, and the fact that you are using anecdotal evidence means you ironically have a strange emotional investment here. I encourage you to remove your sister from the equation and calm down.

 

[CheezzyMach]

Okay so those kids should kill themselves?

I do care about babies. I do not want babies to die. Here's something to blow your mind: a person can be against capital punishment, but also not in favor of personally taking care of every prisoner. Being against murder does not make you a communist, you dumb cunt.

I never once mentioned religion, I restricted this to murder and you doubled down on the premise that if a parent is unfit then the child should not exist. This is a cruel and inhuman position for you to take, and the fact that you are using anecdotal evidence means you ironically have a strange emotional investment here. I encourage you to remove your sister from the equation and calm down.

Lol at least I actually know what actually happens to these kids thanks to actually seeing it happen.

So you want women to be forced to have babies they don't want yet are opposed to giving resources to ensure these kids are actually taken care of and are perfectly fine letting that kid live in misery just to check off a statistic? Yeah this is totally about saving the babies and isn't just you being salty that women are having sex.

I can't imagine wanting kids to suffer just so you can stick it to the Stacy who wouldn't fuck you in high school by saddling her with a kid she doesn't want and has no intention of taking care of yet here you are.

 

[Rekkington]

Lol at least I actually know what actually happens to these kids thanks to actually seeing it happen.

We have all seen children who were adopted or in bad situations, you are not unique. You seem to struggle with the reality that people can have similar experiences to you and come away with different conclusions. "My sister raises a family member's child" is not the slam dunk you seem to think it is. What you are doing is making a case against abortion by proving that children in bad situations can find help elsewhere. Really stop and think about the point you are trying to make here.

So you want women to be forced to have babies they don't want yet are opposed to giving resources to ensure these kids are actually taken care of and are perfectly fine letting that kid live in misery just to check off a statistic? Yeah this is totally about saving the babies and isn't just you being salty that women are having sex.

I believe babies should not be killed, that is the beginning and end of it. You for some bizarre reason think that means I need to give mothers money. I have no reason why you think these two things go together. Yes, I care about children not being murdered. That does not make them a ward of me.
Once again, if you believe these children would be better off dead, why do you not go tell them this? If they're so miserable and fucked up, why don't you go to these children and say they should kill themselves?
You keep avoiding this point.

I can't imagine wanting kids to suffer just so you can stick it to the Stacy who wouldn't fuck you in high school by saddling her with a kid she doesn't want and has no intention of taking care of yet here you are.

It's very amusing how you believe I am this character you have created in your head. Why do you believe not wanting babies to die is an attack on women, and has something to do with fucking girls in high school? What weird shit happened to you in your life to make you say these things?

 

[Marshal Mannerheim]

it's not like there's an ongoing debate about Euthanasia for that exact reason or anything.

Are you saying it should be legal to murder someone in a coma?

By all means allow them to die a natural death, but actively killing people is wrong.

 

[Lemmingwise]

Lol at least I actually know what actually happens to these kids thanks to actually seeing it happen.

Yes, I'm sure you're the only one in this thread who ever works with kids in bad situations.

So you want women to be forced to have babies they don't want yet are opposed to giving resources to ensure these kids are actually taken care of and are perfectly fine letting that kid live in misery just to check off a statistic? Yeah this is totally about saving the babies and isn't just you being salty that women are having sex.

Should men be forced to have babies they don't want?