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They have 3 rivers and a lake they claim
Black Hammer Organization / Black Hammer/ Hammer City - Black Nationalist cult trying to found a commune in the Colorado desert
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Lol, that doesn't give them water rights. Owning land and owning water rights are usually two different things, especially in the west. I'm sure they've thought all this out, though!
Their complete failure and collapse is going to be very entertaining. Good thread, OP.
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I am all for wackos self isolating from society in the Colorado mountains.
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Here is a website (archive) that lists some towns and cities in Colorado by their elevation. Most of the ones listed are at the 10k feet that they were bragging about.
The Highest Elevated Towns in Colorado
August 14, 2020 By // by Matt Thomas
Whether you’re looking to beat the summer heat of Colorado’s urban front range, or are just curious, the Rocky Mountains boast several towns at a very high elevation. From the largest incorporated city in the U.S. to one of its most popular ski towns, Colorado features a number of places to stand well above sea level.
First, a note on elevation vs altitude. Elevation measures the total height above sea level. Whereas, altitude is the height of something over the earth’s surface. Meaning towns, such as Denver, doesn’t have an altitude of 5,280, but an elevation. An airplane going overhead Denver, might be cruising at an altitude of 30,000 feet. However, in typical conversation, elevation and altitude are often used interchangeably, though they shouldn’t be.
Lowest vs Highest Elevation in Colorado
Downtown Leadville, CO.To give you a base for elevations in Colorado, Denver sits at an elevation of 5,280 feet (the Mile High City). Fort Collins to the north is similar at 5,003 ft and Colorado Springs to the south is higher at 6,035 ft. Pueblo at the most southern end of the Front Range Urban Corridor is 4,692 ft.
On the far opposite side of the continental divide on the Western Slope, Grand Junction resides at 4,583 feet on the Western Plateau. So basically if you head west from Denver or east from Grand Junction into the Rockies, you are going to rise in elevation.
What is the highest elevation in Colorado?
Mount Elbert is the state’s highest peak, with a summit of 14,440 feet (4,401 meters).
What is the highest elevation town in Colorado?
Alma is the highest town in Colorado at 10,578 feet (3,224 meters) in elevation.
What is the highest elevation city in Colorado?
Leadville is the highest elevated city in Colorado at 10,152 feet (3,094 meters), along with America’s highest incorporated city.
What is the lowest elevation in Colorado?
The lowest point lies on the eastern plains by the Arikaree River at 3,317 feet (1,011 meters).
What is the lowest elevation town in Colorado?
Located in Southeast Colorado, the town of Holly has an elevation of 3,392 feet (1,034 m), making it the lowest “town” in Colorado.
What is the lowest elevation city in Colorado?
Located in Eastern Colorado, the city of Wray has an elevation of 3,566 ft (1,087 m), making it the lowest “city” in Colorado.
Colorado Towns Listed by Elevation
Downtown Silverton, Colorado.For the list of highest towns in Colorado, we’re starting at 9,000+ feet of elevation. All of these reside in the Rocky Mountain, so they are true mountain towns. In the past, there were some old mining towns that were even higher, such as Animas Forks at over 11,000 feet, but due to the difficult, exhausting nature of living at elevation, like the cold weather and snow, these towns turned to ghost towns, and many disappeared completely due to the elements.
Regarding elevation and temperature, as a generic rule of thumb, temperatures decrease about 3.3°F per 1,000 feet. So if you’re at your local ski resort and it’s 30°F at the base, and the summit is 2,000 vertical feet higher, than you can expect it be about 23°F up top.
List of highest elevation mountain towns in Colorado, starting with the highest:
Alma – 10,578 ft (3224 m)
312 (201
; 270 (2010): 179 (2000)
Main Street, Alma. Leadville gets all the credit as the highest city, however, Alma is higher, just not considered a city. It does claim to be the highest incorporated municipality in the country, with a full time population. It’s located in northern Park County, about thirty minutes south of Breckenridge via Hoosier Pass. The downtown has a couple blocks of shops and restaurants. There are other claims to fame, like the highest marijuana dispensary in the world too.
Leadville – 10,152 ft (3,094 m)
2,762 (201; 2,602 (2010); 2,821 (2000)
Downtown Leadville, Colorado.Leadville is the highest elevated city in the United States of America, and the second highest community in Colorado. It has a well preserved historic district that’s worth a stroll during any time of year. Colorado’s two highest peaks can be seen from town, Mount Elbert (14,440′) and Mount Massive (14,430′). Ski Cooper is the local ski area offering light dry powder and vivid views of the aforementioned peaks.
Blue River – 10,036 ft (3,059 m)
927 (201; 849 (2010); 685 (2000)
Welcome to Blue River, CO! Five miles south of Breckenridge sits the statutory town of Blue River. It’s a mostly residential community with some full time residents and many more seasonal vacation homes. It sits near the start of Hoosier Pass, which leads south on Highway 9 over the continental divide to Alma. The headwaters of the Blue River begins nearby the town of the same name.
Fairplay – 9,953 ft (3,034 m)
762 (201; 679 (2010); 610 (2000)
Main Street, Fairplay. This town is the county seat and hub of the South Park basin, and located only five miles south of Alma. There’s a small downtown area with some historic buildings, including a restored 1880s ghost town at the South Park Museum. Fairplay is a friendly community of locals who enjoy their high elevation living. There’s even a dog park in town, as well as a microbrewery.
Platoro – 9,870 ft (3,008 m)
Overlooking Platoro, CO from FR 250.This seasonal southern Colorado village is the remote on the list, located two hours from any towns of considerable size. It’s two hours north to South Fork, two hours west to Pagosa Springs, two hours east to Monte Vista, and two hours south to Chama, NM. The once bustling mining camping of the late 1800s now attracts summer and early fall visitors to enjoy its wilderness, surrounded by the Rio Grande National Forest.
Platoro’s main attraction is a lake by the same name, Platoro Reservoir. There are a few lodges in town renting cabins, as well as slew of campsites close by. It’s best visited from Memorial Day to October.
Copper Mountain – 9,712 ft (2,960 m)
316 (201; 385 (2010); 210 (2000)
Skating at Copper Mountain Resort. There’s really not too much to the town of Copper Mountain outside of the resort. It has three base villages and a lot of condo style lodging, but it’s much less crowded than its Summit County neighbors after the apres-ski hours are over. However, the skiing is top notch and they’ve been developed their summer activities as well, with a newer Rocky Mountain Coaster open during both peak seasons.
Victor – 9,708 ft (2,959 m)
415 (201, 397 (2010), 440 (2000)
Downtown Victor, CO. Like its Teller County neighbor Cripple Creek, Victor contributed to the rich mining camps of the region. Today, unlike its sister mining town, Victor lacks casinos. So the main draw is its history, visible around the area, from a small historic district downtown, to mining relics in the hills. There’s also more than one reported haunted hotel in town, so if paranormal activity is your thing, be sure to book a room.
Twin Lakes – 9,700 ft (3,000 m)
171 (2010)
Village of Twin Lakes, Colo.About halfway between Leadville and Buena Vista sits the village of Twin Lakes, named for the alpine reservoir next to town. It’s a tiny community that’s much more visited in the warmer summer months while Independence Pass is open. It sits at the eastern start of this pass on Highway 82, which crosses the continental divide over into Aspen.
Ophir – 9,695 ft (2,955 m)
179 (201; 159 (2010); 125 (2000)
Ophir Pass, CO. Thirteen miles south of Telluride hides the high elevation village of Ophir. It’s tucked away 2 miles east of CO-145 via Ophir Road, so you won’t see it unless you go looking. The pictures town of under 200 people enjoy their secret gem of a location, surrounded by alpine wilderness in every direction.
Breckenridge – 9,600 ft (2,926 m)
5,020 (201; 4,540 (2010); 2,408 (2000)
Main Street, Breckenridge. Easily one of Colorado’s most visited mountain towns, Breckenridge is a delightful destination year round. It is Summit’s county seat and one of the larger mountain towns in Colorado. It’s the biggest one over 9,000 feet in elevation. The local resort offers epic skiing in the winter and a Fun Park in the summer. Downtown Breck is lined with more restaurants on its multiple historic blocks than you can shake a stick at.
Mountain Village – 9,545 ft (2,910 m)
1,434 (201; 1,320 (2010); 978 (2000)
Mountain Village, CO.While Telluride is one of Colorado’s best ski towns, and pretty damn high at 8,750′, there are actually two parts to town. Mountain Village is it’s own Home Rule Municipality and distinct place, therefore it’s high enough to make the cut. A free gondola rides connects Mountain Village with downtown Telluride, operating daily year round. Both provide restaurants, shopping and lodging to visitors, but Mountain Village is much more residential than Telluride.
Monarch – 9,544 ft (2,909 m)
Monarch’s main road, CO.Twenty minutes west of Salida and fifteen miles west of Poncha Springs on Highway 50 passes by the village of Monarch. It’s located on Monarch Pass nearly 4 miles east of Monarch Mountain Ski Resort. There’s not much in town just some lodging, vacation homes and a scattering of permeant residents. The unincorporated community shares a post office with Salida.
Cripple Creek – 9,494 ft (2,894 m)
1,267 (201, 1,189 (2010), 1,115 (2000)
Sunset over Cripple Creek, circa 1899. Cripple Creek is where Colorado Springs goes to gamble. Whether it’s classic table games or the latest, dazzling slot machines you’re after, downtown Cripple Creek along East Bennett Avenue has you covered. Dotted with historic structures and casino after casino, Cripple Creek is one of three modern day casino towns, which also includes Black Hawk and Central City near Denver. Put your money on your favorite number and spin that wheel!
Silverton – 9,318 ft (2,840 m)
694 (201; 637 (2010); 531 (2000)
Silverton, Colorado. Silverton is a secluded ski town home to the most gnarly resort in the state, Silverton Mountain. It located on the southern start of the Million Dollar Highway, which travels 45 minutes north to Ouray. Even though it’s home to an epic expert only ski area, the town is pretty desolate during the winter. In the summer, it’s much more popular, with attractions like the Durango & Silverton Railroad, 4×4 Alpine Loop and San Juan National Forest.
Divide – 9,165 ft (2,793 m)
87 (201; 127 (2010); 41 (2000)
Divide from Ute Pass. This Teller County town at the top of Ute Pass is situated about forty minutes west of Colorado Springs. The community is small and there are only a few businesses in town. Divide is a gateway to Highway 67 south to Cripple Creek and Victor, as well as a through town for travel on Highway 24 to South Park and beyond.
Keystone – 9,173 ft (2,796 m)
978 (201; 1,079 (2010); 825 (2000)
Keystone Lodge, Colorado. Home to my favorite ski resort in Summit County, Keystone is hidden just far enough away from I-70 that you won’t see it unless you go looking. The downtown area is the mountain village, which is picturesque and full of restaurants, stores and accommodations. The massive Keystone Lake is a sight to see, and features terrific ice skating in the winter and non-motorized boating in the summer, such as kayaking.
Dillon – 9,111 ft (2,777 m)
973 (201; 904 (2010); 802 (2000)
Dillon Reservoir in Dillon. Another Summit County town, Dillon sits on the eastern side of Dillon Reservoir. It’s a small town tucked between Silverthorne and Keystone with several commercial shops to add to the plethora of choices nearby. There’s a small crop of businesses nearby the lake, include the Dillon Marina where you can rent boats during the summer.
Frisco – 9,097 ft (2,766 m)
3,157 (201; 2,683 (2010); 2,443 (2000)
Downtown Frisco, Colorado. On the opposite western side of Dillon Reservoir is Frisco. It also has its own marina where you can reserve boat rentals. However, Frisco is far larger than Dillon and features the “Main Street of the Rockies”, in its downtown stretch. However, all the towns around the lake are within a short drive to one another.
Winter Park – 9,052 ft (2,780 m)
1,051 (201; 999 (2010); 662 (2000)
Downtown Winter Park, CO. On the western slope of the continental divide via Berthoud Pass lies Winter Park. It’s only 1.5 hour from Denver and with its own big, family-friendly ski resort, it’s extremely popular during the winter and winter. From Memorial Day to Labor Day the resort turns into an adventure park featuring an alpine slide and other activities. The town of Fraser 8,573′ borders Winter Park to the north on Hwy 40.
Silverthorne – 9,035 ft (2,754 m)
4,821 (201; 3,887 (2010); 3,196 (2000)
Ptarmigan Trail, Silverthorne.The last Summit County town to make the list sits behind the Dillon Dam. Silverthorne resides at the crossroads of Highway 9 north to Kremmling and later Steamboat Springs, south on Highway 6 to Dillon and Keystone, or east/west on Interstate 70. It’s the easiest town to reach it the county, and makes a really convenient basecamp for exploring all the surrounding attractions.
Granite – 9,012 ft (2,747 m)
116 (2010)
Granite, Colorado.There isn’t much of a town to Granite, just some homes in this unincorporated community. It rests just south of Twin Lakes, between Leadville and Buena Vista. Clear Creek Reservoir is located near town, which leads back to some cool ghost towns on County Road 390. The Arkansas River flows by town, the headwaters of which start about 17 miles north of town near Leadville.
That’s a roundup of the highest elevated towns in Colorado all above 9,000 ft. There may be some small communities we missed, or even some larger ones, if so please let us know. There are also so many towns that reside above 8,000 feet, like Crested Butte at 8,909′, and even higher in its mountain village.
I'm just wondering how far away from civilization they would be.
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This is true, as someone who has looked into this. For the most part, the only communes that succeed are religious ones (Bruderhof, Hutterites) and even then they are not self-sufficient: they are very much tied to the market through buying and selling goods. If I'm not mistaken, most Bruderhof communities don't really engage in communal production and usually have jobs in the outside world; they mostly just live communally and share their income. They also have hierarchal structures, a big no-no for "real communism". Then, of course, there are the Kibbutzim, which these days are a shadow of their former selves and basically just glorified corporations. They were never self-sufficient in their glory days, either.
The only secular commune I know of that has survived for a long time is Twin Oaks. Of course, they fail the purity test in many regards: they aren't self-sufficient, they are very much attached to the wider market, they have a quasi-hierarchy, and they strongly discourage freeloaders. They're pretty up front about the fact that they aren't a utopia and their style of living isn't for everyone. The fact of the matter is, even when it works, most people do not want to live in communes unless they feel like doing so is ordained by God or they have a deep attachment to the community. Anarcho-Maoist-Third-Worldist-Syndicalist-Whatever doctrine can only sustain a community for so long.
That being said, I highly doubt they even bought the land and this is all just a big scam for Gazi Kodzo's pockets (or an FBI honeypot).
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I really, really, really hope they go through with this. I want to see what lengths they'll go to to make this dream a reality. They needed a thread for so long, so props to @cum4me for documenting this shitshow.
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Hammer City location: It is a literal ecological wasteland.
Turtle Island, Colorado : https://sites.google.com/site/turtleislandecologycenter/about-us
Turtle Island, Colorado : https://sites.google.com/site/turtleislandecologycenter/about-us
Pawnee National Grasslands Geo: https://www.google.com/maps/place/P...421e09300fc80!8m2!3d40.8425223!4d-104.0900838
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Or perhaps whites "can't call you anything they haven't created first" because they created just about anything first.
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On another thread I saw it's on Ute land and this thread has a tweet of them condemning casinos as a "colonial gambling system". I think there's a way to "liberate" the "stolen land".
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The issue is, turtle island is a folk lore tale for the natives where life originated. So idk if that’s just their own name, or if they’re actually in that location
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The chances are leaning toward, either it is the location or it is adjacent to considering the type of ecological 501 non-profit wasteland it already is, that it is called Turtle Island Ecology Center and that it is located in Colorado.
These fuckers are not self-starters, they would need assistance and Turtle Island Ecology Center seems like a good pick to grift considering their ethos.
These fuckers are not self-starters, they would need assistance and Turtle Island Ecology Center seems like a good pick to grift considering their ethos.
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Turtle Island is what the natives supposedly called North America. It's the activist's way of sticking it to the y-t. It just so happens that it's also a proper place name.
Edit: sorry for the double post
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That argument makes no sense in any case. If they're making the same mistakes as someone else in history, that doesn't make them magically not mistakes.
These people think and reason as children do.
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Utterly unaccountable. Didndunuthin...
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Oy vey, they think glacier water is clean enough for consumption. If they ever actually built something up there and inhabited it, we could sit back and wait for the dysentery, Campilobacter, E. coli, giardia galore. If.
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Holy shit, that’s Based and Redpilled.
Is this secretly a neo-Nazi plot to get woke speds to build their own concentration camp?