Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Michael Janke]

the vaccine, or lack of is the least of our problems. when half the countries cholesterol is four pounds.

 

[Bosmadden]

Lack of antibodies against seasonal coronavirus OC43 nucleocapsid protein identifies patients at risk of critical COVID-19

The vast majority of COVID-19 patients experience a mild disease. However, a minority suffers from critical disease with substantial morbidity and mor…

www.sciencedirect.com

Been waiting for this

Does prior infection with seasonal human coronavirus OC43 protect against critical COVID-19?

So does the common cold protect you from the coof? The answer is yes

Findings: In an international multi-center study (four tertiary care referral centers) inpatients without anti-HCoV OC43 NP antibodies had an increased risk of critical disease (adjusted odds ratio 2.68 [95% CI 1.09 - 7.05]), higher than the risk by increased age or BMI, and lower than the risk by male sex. A risk stratification based on sex and OC43 serostatus was derived from this analysis.

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Meaning: Prior infections with seasonal HCoV OC43 have a protective effect against critical COVID-19.

See all those people wearing masks, locking themselves in their homes, and not mingling with others, those folks are less likely to catch a cold and so are more likely to die of Covid.

Lockdowns and masks are making the pandemic worse.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

My boomer parents are now thoroughly convinced the vaccine is bad for them (thanks Tucker Carlson) and responded positively when I pointed them to the resources I found here for making a fake vaccine card (i.e. both the sort of card needed and searching Instagram for pictures of morons posting their vaccine cards). They're upgrading their printer so they can print it right and I hope they'll tell more of their boomer friends.

I guess people with more experience at life are more likely to see this bullshit for what it is.

Another moron that doesn't understand what choosing to be a living disease vector means. If people could hunt down those who were the cause of their family members dying due to a preventable disease because of conservatives' conscious effort to continue being walking safety hazards, there would be less anti vaxxers.

But I thought there's going to be less antivaxxers because we're all dying of the total dangerous pandemic!

If you're so scared, take your damn vaccine. Or you can hunt people like me down and eat a face full of lead for your effort.

Wonder what the excuse will be once Pfizer gets FDA approval at the end of the month.

You could roll out a vaccine that is actually, literally 100% safe, like safer than the modern MMR or polio vaccine, and you will have to drag me to your re-education camp before I take your vaccine. Why? Because it's my body, my choice. I will not put into my body I don't need, and I don't need a vaccine for a disease I statistically have a zero percent chance of dying from or suffering any longtime consequences just like I don't ever get a flu shot. I mean I do a lot of work outside, I have a bigger chance of having negative consequences from being struck by lightning on the job than I do from catching a glorified cold virus.

Why is that so difficult for you people to understand?

The efficacy of the vaccines, at least the ones used in the US seems to be 70-90% at least in preventing the disease. It goes lower if you take into account infection, but at that point those people are going to be less effective as giftgivers to those without the virus. It sure drops to lower levels with all the variants out there, which are just going to become more numerous. (I'm not saying the vaccine is going to cover all the different variants, as at that point different vaccines/boosters will probably be needed.)

A vaccine that gives you a sore arm for a week is a lot better than a ever-evolving virus that will ravage the entire world over many times.

I'm willing to believe the vaccines are effective and do play a role in decreasing the spread of the scamdemic. I believe anyone who wants the vaccine should get it, and there are people out there like the elderly who very much should get it. But it's yet another measure we do not need forced on us. Let us make our own choices. Millions of Americans made the wise decision to stay home for the sake of their health, avoid air travel, and avoid indoor settings in general. Millions of other Americans did not because (ideally) they weighed the evidence and their own health and decided it was worth the risk.

Coronaviruses do not go away under any circumstance. It will keep mutating and infecting people until it turns into another common cold. You cannot fight evolution, as much as today's science policy and popular science (which has about as much relation to actual science as young earth creationism) thinks you can. A far more severe coronavirus (probably as lethal as SARS) caused a global pandemic in the late 19th century and that same coronavirus still exists and infects millions of people a year. That's what will happen with this one, and if it doesn't evolve into that level of harmlessness than I guarantee it will be because of mass vaccination.

Assuming the vaccinations don't work at all we'd be looking at 3-10 million deaths in the USA alone, assuming there is no reinfection from variants. (Which we can't rule out, as there is some evidence to suggest that.)

Is that using the models programmed with literal shitcode which has been proven absolutely wrong for over a year now? The disease has like 0.25% death rate. We've known the reality of how dangerous this disease is for 14 months now. People simply aren't dying in droves from it. Where are all the piles of corpses in Florida and Georgia? Sure, a lot of people have taken vaccines or voluntarily wear masks and stay home, but that seems like all that's needed. People would've done this on their own, why do we have to be forced into your compliance?

 

[JimmyNugget]

My boomer parents are now thoroughly convinced the vaccine is bad for them (thanks Tucker Carlson) and responded positively when I pointed them to the resources I found here for making a fake vaccine card (i.e. both the sort of card needed and searching Instagram for pictures of morons posting their vaccine cards). They're upgrading their printer so they can print it right and I hope they'll tell more of their boomer friends.

I guess people with more experience at life are more likely to see this bullshit for what it is.

But I thought there's going to be less antivaxxers because we're all dying of the total dangerous pandemic!

If you're so scared, take your damn vaccine. Or you can hunt people like me down and eat a face full of lead for your effort.

You could roll out a vaccine that is actually, literally 100% safe, like safer than the modern MMR or polio vaccine, and you will have to drag me to your re-education camp before I take your vaccine. Why? Because it's my body, my choice. I will not put into my body I don't need, and I don't need a vaccine for a disease I statistically have a zero percent chance of dying from or suffering any longtime consequences just like I don't ever get a flu shot. I mean I do a lot of work outside, I have a bigger chance of having negative consequences from being struck by lightning on the job than I do from catching a glorified cold virus.

Why is that so difficult for you people to understand?

I'm willing to believe the vaccines are effective and do play a role in decreasing the spread of the scamdemic. I believe anyone who wants the vaccine should get it, and there are people out there like the elderly who very much should get it. But it's yet another measure we do not need forced on us. Let us make our own choices. Millions of Americans made the wise decision to stay home for the sake of their health, avoid air travel, and avoid indoor settings in general. Millions of other Americans did not because (ideally) they weighed the evidence and their own health and decided it was worth the risk.

Coronaviruses do not go away under any circumstance. It will keep mutating and infecting people until it turns into another common cold. You cannot fight evolution, as much as today's science policy and popular science (which has about as much relation to actual science as young earth creationism) thinks you can. A far more severe coronavirus (probably as lethal as SARS) caused a global pandemic in the late 19th century and that same coronavirus still exists and infects millions of people a year. That's what will happen with this one, and if it doesn't evolve into that level of harmlessness than I guarantee it will be because of mass vaccination.

Is that using the models programmed with literal shitcode which has been proven absolutely wrong for over a year now? The disease has like 0.25% death rate. We've known the reality of how dangerous this disease is for 14 months now. People simply aren't dying in droves from it. Where are all the piles of corpses in Florida and Georgia? Sure, a lot of people have taken vaccines or voluntarily wear masks and stay home, but that seems like all that's needed. People would've done this on their own, why do we have to be forced into your compliance?

In hunting people down assumes you pack heat. At that point it’s dealing with public menaces.

 

[longtimelurkerfirsttimepo]

The test is faulty and gives false positives.
Hospitals are incentivized to say the patient was affected by covid, they get more money.
This situation has made it harder for doctors to actually do their work, the environments are over-sterilized, hustled precautions are taken and being made-up. Some surgeries have just stopped happening entirely. The elderly are getting less care and attention.

The most recent data of US death rates were at the same level they were the previous years. There was no huge spike of death for this pandemic.

Oh no, over-sterilized hospital environments were golden staph and legionaries disease like to roam? Hospitals should be completely torn down and rebuilt with the idea of letting as much light in as possible and biocidal materials over every surface. But yes, there has certainly been a lot on the plate of doctors, and yes certain surgeries have been halted to make room for covid cases. It sucks that's the case, but that's what happens when you have a virus causing hospital admissions.

The tests are certainly not perfect, and there probably is a bit of a fuck around with the hospital's calling them covid deaths, but again; Even if half of all the tests were false positives and half the deaths associated with it were not actually the case, you are still looking at the possibility of 90-95% of the population has currently not gotten the virus and that the death toll could be a lot higher. I don't believe it's very constructive and a bit too conspiratorial to look at it that way, and much better to look at it as if the accuracy of the testing and and death attributions is closer to 90%.

It's going to do that anyway no matter how many people get vaccinated, and the vaccine will not be effective for long as it continues to mutate.

Population of the U.S. at this time is estimated to be 330 million. Neither of those are "a lot of people" with that in mind. Also shit lifestyles and such leading to people biting it from the flu, etc. isn't new. I mean, look at this:
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Do you get where I'm going with this? You've got a high chance of dying by living in the U.S. regardless from utterly, seemingly random shit like cancer or aneurysms/heart attacks, to driving your car or being a victim of a crime every time you go out into public. I'll take my chances with a virus that seems to have a pretty decent survival rate compared to a vaccine that was rushed, has an uncomfortable agenda surrounding it, and that the companies that made it have complete immunity to lawsuits. It just doesn't seem like an intelligent decision unless you have some seriously good reasoning, or blind trust in authority which if you do you're not really someone who has any right calling other people stupid to begin with.

I mean think about it, if I'm wrong, I just look stupid. If you're wrong, you might have some horrible effect that won't appear until you say, try to or actually do have a kid, or years down the line. I and almost every other person who's against this isn't against it because it's a fucking vaccine, it's the circumstances surrounding it.

It's from a family of viruses known for high mutation rates, it's almost guaranteed to make a vaccination effect either impotent or make it to where you'd have to get vaccinated at a ridiculous rate. I've already read somewhere that some "official" was estimating you might have to take this "vaccine" that doesn't work every six to ten months or some shit. I'm good, thanks. And by the way, from the way it's looking and that it's already got multiple strains going, we're probably in for this thing literally lasting for the rest of the time man is on earth, or have the tech to scrub it from society (which we don't, currently, and won't for a good long while).
That entire time, it'll be mutating randomly too so I'll probably end up getting it after a few years when the agenda's died down and the nasty bugs have been worked out. But until then, yeah, no you can be a guinea pig if you want but don't make people who don't want it out to be merely anti-vaxxers for not wanting a suspiciously pushed, rushed vaccine for a disease that has yet to be lethal save for a small percentage of society at large.

A vaccine effectiveness of 50% is still better than nothing at all, considering such a thing would slow down continued spread and curb the creation of newer variants. The vaccines, while effective primarily against the earlier variants do show some prevention of infections and against the disease. The Illuminati (Now headed by Biden, PBUH) don't really want any slow down in global trade and traffic as that would really cut into their profits in human trafficking and adrenochrome harvesting.

How can I assume you're not anything but completely misinformed by propaganda when you rate @Bosmadden 's post informative, which can be considered ~85% bullshit when you realise that it's the Rhinovirus and not the Coronavirus variant that accounts for 85% of cold infections?

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

In hunting people down assumes you pack heat. At that point it’s dealing with public menaces.

Why are you going near unvaccinated people anyway when the CDC and Dr. Fauci (pbuh) says to wear two masks and stay 6 feet away at all times? Aren't you a little worried a well-placed cough is going to pierce the barrier of your two (or even three!) masks and hurt you far worse than bullets can? You should stay away for your own good.

Also, I hope once you're done killing as filthy unvaccinated you move onto killing people who won't take flu shots.

How can I assume you're not anything but completely misinformed by propaganda when you rate @Bosmadden 's post informative, which can be considered ~85% bullshit when you realise that it's the Rhinovirus and not the Coronavirus variant that accounts for 85% of cold infections?

There's over a billion cases of the cold a year (and many people catch it multple times a year), that's still a 9 figure number of coronavirus infections every year.

 

[Übertroon]

In hunting people down assumes you pack heat. At that point it’s dealing with public menaces.

The Internet tough guy afraid to get coughed on

You got to be one fat motherfucker

 

[JimmyNugget]

The Internet tough guy afraid to get coughed on

You got to be one fat motherfucker

Im not the internet tough guy too chickenshit to take a vaccine because somehow it makes you sterile and also will somehow cause cancer??

 

[Bosmadden]

Oh no, over-sterilized hospital environments were golden staph and legionaries disease like to roam? Hospitals should be completely torn down and rebuilt with the idea of letting as much light in as possible and biocidal materials over every surface. But yes, there has certainly been a lot on the plate of doctors, and yes certain surgeries have been halted to make room for covid cases. It sucks that's the case, but that's what happens when you have a virus causing hospital admissions.

The tests are certainly not perfect, and there probably is a bit of a fuck around with the hospital's calling them covid deaths, but again; Even if half of all the tests were false positives and half the deaths associated with it were not actually the case, you are still looking at the possibility of 90-95% of the population has currently not gotten the virus and that the death toll could be a lot higher. I don't believe it's very constructive and a bit too conspiratorial to look at it that way, and much better to look at it as if the accuracy of the testing and and death attributions is closer to 90%.


A vaccine effectiveness of 50% is still better than nothing at all, considering such a thing would slow down continued spread and curb the creation of newer variants. The vaccines, while effective primarily against the earlier variants do show some prevention of infections and against the disease. The Illuminati (Now headed by Biden, PBUH) don't really want any slow down in global trade and traffic as that would really cut into their profits in human trafficking and adrenochrome harvesting.

How can I assume you're not anything but completely misinformed by propaganda when you rate @Bosmadden 's post informative, which can be considered ~85% bullshit when you realise that it's the Rhinovirus and not the Coronavirus variant that accounts for 85% of cold infections?

80% of the population already have some cross immunity from Covid, likely from exposure to the 4 endemic Coronaviruses (now proven) and adenoviruses (also proven to impart immunity). These 2 viruses together account for 20-30 % of all common colds. Children in particular are constantly picking up colds and this may be the primary reason why they're largely immune from the coof.

Our immune systems are designed to be exposed to constant low level infections. Living apart from each other and isolating ourselves is incredibly bad for our health, both physical and mental.

 

[Übertroon]

Im not the internet tough guy too chickenshit to take a vaccine because somehow it makes you sterile and also will somehow cause cancer??

Never said I believe either of those things. Also you didn't deny being fat. Perhaps I won't take the vaccine because it makes all the right people upset

 

[JimmyNugget]

Never said I believe either of those things. Also you didn't deny being fat. Perhaps I won't take the vaccine because it makes all the right people upset

If you want permanent organ damage to own the libs, then sure. Get it 4 times in a row, get the mutant Indian strain.

No need to deny untrue accusations in the first place.

 

[4AMPudding]

Im not the internet tough guy too chickenshit to take a vaccine because somehow it makes you sterile and also will somehow cause cancer??

Look at the fatass here who wont ever eat in a mcdonalds again because one person there might not have gotten his 6th booster shot that month.

 

[Übertroon]

If you want permanent organ damage to own the libs, then sure. Get it 4 times in a row, get the mutant Indian strain.

No need to deny untrue accusations in the first place.

See now you're the one being a chickenshit peddling unfounded claims of young adults suffering "permanent organ damage"
Your beloved vaccine doesn't even make one immune. So unless you want your fat liberal ass dead then you better stay inside and don't get coughed on by a filthy conservative.

 

[NoSpiceLife]

Joke's on them, that's where all the cool kids sat when I was in school.

Plus you have to walk through all the dumbarses to get there!

 

[JimmyNugget]

See now you're the one being a chickenshit peddling unfounded claims of young adults suffering "permanent organ damage"
Your beloved vaccine doesn't even make one immune. So unless you want your fat liberal ass dead then you better stay inside and don't get coughed on by a filthy conservative.

Show me it doesn’t work then when it has shown to cause lasting damage to people who have gotten COVID. The vaccine is meant to last maybe one and a half years.

Look at the fatass here who wont ever eat in a mcdonalds again because one person there might not have gotten his 6th booster shot that month.

You’ll be hurting others who refuse to help themselves, not me. Fatties like you who will no doubt catch it from constant physical contact in public spaces will suffer far more.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

So nearly 3000 are dying per day in India of the WuFlu?

[doubt.jpg]

(the media is so full of shit in Current Year)

 

[General Tug Boat]

Oh no, over-sterilized hospital environments were golden staph and legionaries disease like to roam? Hospitals should be completely torn down and rebuilt with the idea of letting as much light in as possible and biocidal materials over every surface. But yes, there has certainly been a lot on the plate of doctors, and yes certain surgeries have been halted to make room for covid cases. It sucks that's the case, but that's what happens when you have a virus causing hospital admissions.

The tests are certainly not perfect, and there probably is a bit of a fuck around with the hospital's calling them covid deaths, but again; Even if half of all the tests were false positives and half the deaths associated with it were not actually the case, you are still looking at the possibility of 90-95% of the population has currently not gotten the virus and that the death toll could be a lot higher. I don't believe it's very constructive and a bit too conspiratorial to look at it that way, and much better to look at it as if the accuracy of the testing and and death attributions is closer to 90%.


A vaccine effectiveness of 50% is still better than nothing at all, considering such a thing would slow down continued spread and curb the creation of newer variants. The vaccines, while effective primarily against the earlier variants do show some prevention of infections and against the disease. The Illuminati (Now headed by Biden, PBUH) don't really want any slow down in global trade and traffic as that would really cut into their profits in human trafficking and adrenochrome harvesting.

How can I assume you're not anything but completely misinformed by propaganda when you rate @Bosmadden 's post informative, which can be considered ~85% bullshit when you realise that it's the Rhinovirus and not the Coronavirus variant that accounts for 85% of cold infections?

Asymptotic infection has been shown to be at an order of magnitude at least 15 times higher than the actual recorded statistics. Along side with the PCR testing in it of itself having fatal inaccuracies, so much so that China switched over to anally swabbing people. Literally in the first month of lockdowns most of us in this thread already did the hardcore research that backs up on how this specific virus is not a threat to be scared of, unless you are a dead fat or old. I emplore you to review the Imperial College of London's flattening the curve codex that is complete and utter nonsense that the lockdown theory was based on.
If you are scared of it, do what you feel is best based on your own health. Otherwise, quit trying to regurgitate stuff that we have disproven 14 months ago now. I suggest going through the older sections of this thread, and reviewing the information we have already treaded through.

So nearly 3000 are dying per day in India of the WuFlu?

[doubt.jpg]

(the media is so full of shit in Current Year)

Considering that India is an overpopulated street shitting, polluted shit hole like the Pooh Land, I wouldn't say that metric would be to far off. What is also likely is that they may of changed the way they record the PCR and mortality rates. Hence it wouldn't be far from the skeptical pov obviously that the numbers are being manufactured. Another possible theory is that people are probably getting severe ARS as a consequence of the spike protein being cross infected with other viruses because of the vaccines. If anyone has the vaccination numbers in India and the mainline vaccine they are using, probably may bring light to the India situation.

 

[need shoeonhead nudes]

The infighting this has all caused is quite fascinating. The people who have been following all the orders from the beginning see getting the vaccine as the only way to return to normalcy, they see people who don't want to get the vaccine as standing in the way of everything turning back to normal.

Basically the vaccine people have been blackmailed for a year and just want to give up. They have been utterly defeated. Meanwhile the people who aren't interested in the vaccine have been carrying on life as usual, not constantly consuming the fear porn and immediately believing what the television tries to feed us.

We plebs keep fighting eachother while we get poorer, while our money gets inflated, while more socialist programs suck our income, while more authoritarianism comes into law.

 

[Unpaid Emotional Labourer]

The infighting this has all caused is quite fascinating. The people who have been following all the orders from the beginning see getting the vaccine as the only way to return to normalcy, they see people who don't want to get the vaccine as standing in the way of everything turning back to normal.

Basically the vaccine people have been blackmailed for a year and just want to give up. They have been utterly defeated. Meanwhile the people who aren't interested in the vaccine have been carrying on life as usual, not constantly consuming the fear porn and immediately believing what the television tries to feed us.

We plebs keep fighting eachother while we get poorer, while our money gets inflated, while more socialist programs suck our income, while more authoritarianism comes into law.

It has been pretty funny reading all this CDC guidance like, “What can you do now? Well, you can now gather with a group of less than 17.34 people as long as you are all outside, your kids can play with other kids outside as long as all are masked...”

Meanwhile in Florida, the kids have been in school all year.

And CDC is giving us permission to crack open a window an inch. Lol.

 

[wry wrangler]

So nearly 3000 are dying per day in India of the WuFlu?

[doubt.jpg]

(the media is so full of shit in Current Year)

At least 30,000 people die every day of having to live in India. There's a reason so many pajeets are trying to come over here...