Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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I have never worn a mask once the entire pandemic, even closed a bank account because they made a fuss about it. Surely just shutting up and doing the small task I asked of you would spread less germs than getting into a shouting match. But they're the experts I suppose.

I actually wouldn't mind if the masks stayed forever, they're a good way to find interesting people to talk to. If someone isn't wearing it in my area, they're probably a pretty interesting person.
 
Social media was a mistake. I know why he's out there, its for that dopamine, those followers.

The same tyrants who forced this coronapanic bullshit on us also love - or run - social media.

They're so happy they were able to block Orange Man BTW.

(Another reason I miss the time before Current Year: less or no social media.)
 
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To be entirely fair, we have had at least two major alt-right/wignat doomposters here ranting about the horrible effects of the "made-in-china virus"
That's another fun part.
A little over a year ago, when the Coof first came around, our media and politics would talk it down, and the public narrative was that only racists and Nazis think that the WuFlu was a big deal. If anything, the virus mostly killed old white men, so it was actually beneficial! If you're calling for closing borders, you're doing it because racism.
Within a few months the media did a 180° turn and suddenly the people demanding going back to normal life (the two weeks to flatten the curve were long over by that point) were the Nazis.
 
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So by forcing these biosecurity theatre measures in a piss-poor country, they probably ended up getting more people sick than if they didn't do any of this neurotic testing.
 
Employers and businesses can mandate whatever they want. What they can't do is demand you provide your medical records to prove you've undergone any type of medical procedure. I believe a big part of the push for vaccine passports is to amend or abolish these laws, it's clear that corporate America wants to have full access to their employees and customers medical records and the coof panic is a way for them to achieve that.
I think the psychos who want daddy government to order us all around got wise after Bake The Cake, Bigot. They can't quite go straight in for the kill, so they found a way around. Businesses can do what they want, eh? Then we'll just use our government power to threaten to revoke their business license and sic our hordes of unwashed looters to wave torches in their general direction unless they act as our proxy enforcers. Whaaaaaaat no waaaaaay. They're acting on their own, we didn't do this. You're just crazy if you think authoritarian lefty nutjobs are trying to blackmail people into obedience. HONK HONK.
 
Oh wow, our head Branch Covidian now claims that we know that vaccinated people are not infectious even when they have a positive PCR test because, get this, they have a very high ct of over 30.
Oh, and look at the graphic he posted along with it, finally the type of graphic I would have liked to see for a year now:
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See how there's a big bulb over ct>30 values even for completely unvaccinated people?
And how they're apparently cut off the ct for vaccinated people?
And how non-vaccinated, not previously positive for 1-21 before vaccination looks basically like 21 days after first dose, no second dose with a different total scale?
There might have been a very, very good reason why the ct value statistics aren't made as public as the other numbers...

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Note the medians and quartiles in the box plots as well. And the last two plots, post second dose, and not vaccinated and previously positive. Nearly identical.
This Minecraft server really needs to become PvP FFA.

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Seriously. Look at the medians and quartiles. Uppermost violin, not vaccinated, no previous infection >21 days before vaccination. Total number 10,636. Lower quartile down to 20, I guess. Median ct at 27. Upper quartile 32. Let's assume a ct of 25 was basically clean. That means basically half of those 10k people are practically not infected at all.
Hell, put the "dangerous ct" at 30. Still means that the number of actually "dangerous" cases is reduced by a quarter.
The second one is even worse, 1-21 days before vaccination. Here the median is at 32 or something, lower and upper quartiles at 27 and 35 or so. You can basically dismiss three quarters of those positive tests as not dangerous, and yet the full amount of positive tests is used to justify lockdowns and restrictions.
Yesterday's test numbers in Germany were about 18k. It seems that around half of those will have had a ct of >30, so we should just ignore them.
This one graphic kinda really shows the scale of the inflation of test numbers.
Good thing Lauterbach didn't post the source study.
 
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It's against the law to post false information on VAERS. If Branch Covidians suspect that criminals are posting thousands of fake reports then I encourage them to report this to the authorities. However this seems to me more like a cope to explain the fact that the Covid vaccines are at least 100 times more lethal than the seasonal flu shot.
 
Show me it doesn’t work then when it has shown to cause lasting damage to people who have gotten COVID. The vaccine is meant to last maybe one and a half years.

You’ll be hurting others who refuse to help themselves, not me. Fatties like you who will no doubt catch it from constant physical contact in public spaces will suffer far more.

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I just want to say I'm tired guys.
I do nothing but work and go home, support my parents and brothers as much as I can and I get treated like an insane lunatic when I say I am tired and I just want to go meet people again.
Its gay as shit to say but honestly nobody else is taking me seriously, this shit has been devastating. I feel lonely all the time and people avoid any form of contact but I can see how much they want to talk and engage with each other.

This is nothing but madness, state sanctioned hysteria and if you're for ut you have nothing but my pity.

I have nothing else to contribute except the fact that Italy is looking honestly grim.
We have a banana republic headed byba sociopath where suddenly all the political parties banded together to save us from ourselves (Reagan was right about the most terrible phrase of any language.)
The boomers are all for it, truth is they are fucking afraid of dying but instead of. taking back their life and renouncing dangerous vices like overeating, smoking and drugs they want to keep going by punishing everyone around them.

They're treating normal people like children that have to be scolded and punishe and the worst thing is everyone seems ok with it.
It will never stop if it keeps going like this.
Just make up some other bullshit about the super lethal variants and all the yellow bellies are in for another merry go round of useless fucking lockdowns.
 
Oh wow, our head Branch Covidian now claims that we know that vaccinated people are not infectious even when they have a positive PCR test because, get this, they have a very high ct of over 30.
Oh, and look at the graphic he posted along with it, finally the type of graphic I would have liked to see for a year now:
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See how there's a big bulb over ct>30 values even for completely unvaccinated people?
And how they're apparently cut off the ct for vaccinated people?
And how non-vaccinated, not previously positive for 1-21 before vaccination looks basically like 21 days after first dose, no second dose with a different total scale?
There might have been a very, very good reason why the ct value statistics aren't made as public as the other numbers...

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Note the medians and quartiles in the box plots as well. And the last two plots, post second dose, and not vaccinated and previously positive. Nearly identical.
This Minecraft server really needs to become PvP FFA.

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Seriously. Look at the medians and quartiles. Uppermost violin, not vaccinated, no previous infection >21 days before vaccination. Total number 10,636. Lower quartile down to 20, I guess. Median ct at 27. Upper quartile 32. Let's assume a ct of 25 was basically clean. That means basically half of those 10k people are practically not infected at all.
Hell, put the "dangerous ct" at 30. Still means that the number of actually "dangerous" cases is reduced by a quarter.
The second one is even worse, 1-21 days before vaccination. Here the median is at 32 or something, lower and upper quartiles at 27 and 35 or so. You can basically dismiss three quarters of those positive tests as not dangerous, and yet the full amount of positive tests is used to justify lockdowns and restrictions.
Yesterday's test numbers in Germany were about 18k. It seems that around half of those will have had a ct of >30, so we should just ignore them.
This one graphic kinda really shows the scale of the inflation of test numbers.
Good thing Lauterbach didn't post the source study.
Could you please translate this to idiot? My fields are Poli Sci and Law, so everything here just went over my head.
 
I just want to say I'm tired guys.
I do nothing but work and go home, support my parents and brothers as much as I can and I get treated like an insane lunatic when I say I am tired and I just want to go meet people again.

I have nothing else to contribute except the fact that Italy is looking honestly grim.
We have a banana republic headed byba sociopath where suddenly all the political parties banded together to save us from ourselves (Reagan was right about the most terrible phrase of any language.)
The boomers are all for it, truth is they are fucking afraid of dying but instead of. taking back their life and renouncing dangerous vices like overeating, smoking and drugs they want to keep going by punishing everyone around them.
Well at least you have a job and live in country with nice climate and food. Imagine living in the 5th poorest country in Europe without a job and knowing that it won't get any better. As for the virus thing, I didn't notice much of a difference since I never had anyone to hang out with in the first place.
 
Could you please translate this to idiot? My fields are Poli Sci and Law, so everything here just went over my head.
I'm not too familiar with violin plots myself, but I guess it's basically a distribution.
X axis is ct value, y axis is amount, and the plots are all normalized to have the same area in them.
On the x axis there is a box plot showing median and upper and lower quartiles. The lower quartile denotes the value below which 25% of the data points are. The median, or second quartile, is where 50% of the data points are below, and the upper quartile is where 75% are below.
So let's take a look at the second violin plot, non-vaccinated, never positive, 1-21 days before vaccination.
You see a long distribution which a heavy bump at a ct of 33 or so. That means the frequency of tests in that group with a ct around 33 is much higher than the frequency of tests with a ct of, say, 10 or 20.
The median of this plot is somewhere around 31 or so. So 50% of the data points have a ct below 31. That also means half the data points have a ct over 30. With 613 total positive tests here that means half of those positively tested people are practically non-infectious.
The lower quartile in this plot is around 27. So only 25% of the data points are below 27, and 27 is already pretty high when it comes to ct in PCR tests.
Now of course the ct of the test depends on when you do the test, and it can change over the next days. But all in all, at the time of the test it's pretty clear that around half of the tests are most likely not infectious at all, and the numbers are bloated.
Even in the uppermost violin, the one with unvaccinated people >21 days before vaccination, the lower quartile is at 20 and the median at 28. That's still nearly half of those tests with pretty high cts, so those 10k positive tests are maybe 5k dangerous.
I hope that kinda explained it?
And I hope I'm even correct on this, these kind of statistics aren't my main thing, either...
 
Well at least you have a job and live in country with nice climate and food. Imagine living in the 5th poorest country in Europe without a job and knowing that it won't get any better. As for the virus thing, I didn't notice much of a difference since I never had anyone to hang out with in the first place.
We're gonna make irregardless.
Its just going to be a real shitshow.
 
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