Has there been any case of hostility towards people who have left? To be honest this rule seems more about preventing casuals from coming it than stopping people from leaving.
This question stumped me for a while because that logic checks out and yeah, there is very rarely hostility to ex-members unless they did something very bad to provoke the ire of the community. Generally, if you’re banned, you’re in their bad books, but at that point you can’t even come back. And even then, friendship groups in the community tend to be very tight-knit and very private, even the more scummy users still get support.
Most of the time they don’t care if you leave and come back, because well, you’re back now and that’s what matters.
I heard him mention in a conversation that he hated that song because he was forced to sing it or else his accounts would be deleted.
However I have never seen the actual video. Amazing performance.
Autistic of me but I’m actually weirdly fond of the dead rising guy. He’s by far the most crazy, but I have to respect being so crazy that dating a video game character and believing he can possess your xbox (which you also fuck) is somehow the most normal thing about you.
I’d be genuinely sad if he killed himself, I hope he gets his meds sorted out. It sounds like he had a rough start at life
Autistic of me but I’m actually weirdly fond of the dead rising guy. He’s by far the most crazy, but I have to respect being so crazy that dating a video game character and believing he can possess your xbox (which you also fuck) is somehow the most normal thing about you.
I’d be genuinely sad if he killed himself, I hope he gets his meds sorted out. It sounds like he had a rough start at life
I think another thing notable is he seems aware to some extent that it's not real. Deluded, but having moments of clarity where you realize it's not real, but being too fucked in the head and scared to accept the outside world so you turn back to delusions, and do drugs that make them stronger. He's one of the few waifuists who is willing to admit his relationship is a result of schizophrenia. Simultaneously more sane and less sane than all the others.
edit: and this is where i get angry, because waifuism promotes this mindset instead of trying to encourage him out. how could you ever learn to trust the real world and get help if they convince you deeper into delusions? it's worrying. it's really worrying.
I'm half surprised and half not so much, because on one hand it's typical Matty behaviour to act this retarded but he didn't go into a tard rage over it and shill government guidelines to an extreme. Maybe he's burnt out after that last r/averageredditor rant? Or more likely he just doesn't dare act like that on r/waifuism since he knows shitting up threads with his tantrums will possibly get him taken for a troll (might as well be one at this point) and banned straight away.
This is gonna be autistic as fuck of me but I'm kind of hung up on this. Like it's making me really sad. The past couple of pages it's been really visible how damaging waifuism actually is to mentally vulnerable people. Imagine that you're isolated from your friends, you're struggling with a mental health problem, and all that's making you happy is a video game and then these people tell you about dating this character, and drag you into their circle. You're now stuck reliant on these people who don't actually care about you, they just want you there to further their cause, and you can't trust outside people because they all seem to be bullies because they're mocking you for saying you're dating a game character. it's a mix of humiliation (as they actively reward and encourage those who go public with their love, taking body pillows in public, telling family members, etc) and dependency on the sub that drags people deeper into the mindset and look where that's getting the members who feel ostracized and are posting on fucking r/suicidewatch. it's just so damn depressing. shit like this makes me tempted to ween and reach out, but i know that would do nothing. they'd chimp out at the suggestion of dropping what gave them a reason to live. What do you do in that situation, you cannot trust outsiders and your own circle doesn't care enough to help you? Waifuism is a plague I swear
This is gonna be autistic as fuck of me but I'm kind of hung up on this. Like it's making me really sad. The past couple of pages it's been really visible how damaging waifuism actually is to mentally vulnerable people. Imagine that you're isolated from your friends, you're struggling with a mental health problem, and all that's making you happy is a video game and then these people tell you about dating this character, and drag you into their circle. You're now stuck reliant on these people who don't actually care about you, they just want you there to further their cause, and you can't trust outside people because they all seem to be bullies because they're mocking you for saying you're dating a game character. it's a mix of humiliation (as they actively reward and encourage those who go public with their love, taking body pillows in public, telling family members, etc) and dependency on the sub that drags people deeper into the mindset and look where that's getting the members who feel ostracized and are posting on fucking r/suicidewatch. it's just so damn depressing. shit like this makes me tempted to ween and reach out, but i know that would do nothing. they'd chimp out at the suggestion of dropping what gave them a reason to live. What do you do in that situation, you cannot trust outsiders and your own circle doesn't care enough to help you? Waifuism is a plague I swear
Waifuism is a particularly nasty bug because it preys on several inherent longings in people: for one a sense of community - in a clique that encourages universal acceptance, with it's content, at the expense of quality and integrity, while also enforcing rigidity in detrimental ways; preventing members from reassessing their life, perhaps getting needed help and finding healthier alternatives.
7 billion of us didn't spawn out of thin air. From our evolutionary roots, we have a powerful desire for romance, and a flexible system for classifying potential partners, so we can reproduce should the opportunity be found. The way that waifuism, knowingly or unknowingly, exploits that aspect of humanity is particularly vicious. Because the waifu remains unchanging and you can't have any new interactions with them beyond what was scripted, the waifuism community takes up a surrogate role. They have to acknowledge your effort, your love for it or else it won't be known or rewarded, validated or accepted. Waifuism becomes your abusive lover operating in a hivemind, and thus your remaining sanity is gaslighted into oblivion by the compulsory ingestion and regurgitation of cajolery, to keep it happy enough to utter a sweet nothing.
The only good thing that can come from r/waifuism is a laugh.
Waifuism is a particularly nasty bug because it preys on several inherent longings in people: for one a sense of community - in a clique that encourages universal acceptance, with it's content, at the expense of quality and integrity, while also enforcing rigidity in detrimental ways; preventing members from reassessing their life, perhaps getting needed help and finding healthier alternatives.
7 billion of us didn't spawn out of thin air. From our evolutionary roots, we have a powerful desire for romance, and a flexible system for classifying potential partners, so we can reproduce should the opportunity be found. The way that waifuism, knowingly or unknowingly, exploits that aspect of humanity is particularly vicious. Because the waifu remains unchanging and you can't have any new interactions with them beyond what was scripted, the waifuism community takes up a surrogate role. They have to acknowledge your effort, your love for it or else it won't be known or rewarded, validated or accepted. Waifuism becomes your abusive lover operating in a hivemind, and thus your remaining sanity is gaslighted into oblivion by the compulsory ingestion and regurgitation of cajolery, to keep it happy enough to utter a sweet nothing.
The only good thing that can come from r/waifuism is a laugh.
It’s not even funny if you look that deep into it. It’s like every one of these fuckers has their own personal Jim Jones that they’ll gladly drink the Kool-Aid for one day if they are “told to”. Even in those rare cases where waifuists somehow live and function like normal people, emotional dependency on a single fictional character can really fuck them up.
He often ignores DMs entirely and only responds to comments on his profile, if anything. He assumes everyone is a troll, so yeah it'd probably do nothing.
Also, a tidbit of information I've never seen posted here before: The mods actually have an "unspoken rule" regarding KiwiFarms - they're supposed to delete any post even mentioning this thread and pretty much pretend we don't exist, which adds to the cult-like aspect.
This is gonna be autistic as fuck of me but I'm kind of hung up on this. Like it's making me really sad. The past couple of pages it's been really visible how damaging waifuism actually is to mentally vulnerable people. Imagine that you're isolated from your friends, you're struggling with a mental health problem, and all that's making you happy is a video game and then these people tell you about dating this character, and drag you into their circle. You're now stuck reliant on these people who don't actually care about you, they just want you there to further their cause, and you can't trust outside people because they all seem to be bullies because they're mocking you for saying you're dating a game character. it's a mix of humiliation (as they actively reward and encourage those who go public with their love, taking body pillows in public, telling family members, etc) and dependency on the sub that drags people deeper into the mindset and look where that's getting the members who feel ostracized and are posting on fucking r/suicidewatch. it's just so damn depressing. shit like this makes me tempted to ween and reach out, but i know that would do nothing. they'd chimp out at the suggestion of dropping what gave them a reason to live. What do you do in that situation, you cannot trust outsiders and your own circle doesn't care enough to help you? Waifuism is a plague I swear
Waifuism is a particularly nasty bug because it preys on several inherent longings in people: for one a sense of community - in a clique that encourages universal acceptance, with it's content, at the expense of quality and integrity, while also enforcing rigidity in detrimental ways; preventing members from reassessing their life, perhaps getting needed help and finding healthier alternatives.
7 billion of us didn't spawn out of thin air. From our evolutionary roots, we have a powerful desire for romance, and a flexible system for classifying potential partners, so we can reproduce should the opportunity be found. The way that waifuism, knowingly or unknowingly, exploits that aspect of humanity is particularly vicious. Because the waifu remains unchanging and you can't have any new interactions with them beyond what was scripted, the waifuism community takes up a surrogate role. They have to acknowledge your effort, your love for it or else it won't be known or rewarded, validated or accepted. Waifuism becomes your abusive lover operating in a hivemind, and thus your remaining sanity is gaslighted into oblivion by the compulsory ingestion and regurgitation of cajolery, to keep it happy enough to utter a sweet nothing.
The only good thing that can come from r/waifuism is a laugh.
On the one hand, I definitely agree that waifu communities like r/waifuism are damaging. I sperged about this earlier, but their community rules are set up in such a way that it's essentially a cult; people get sucked in, and can't escape, and the community actively conspires to keep participants from finding and maintaining better, healthier, real-life relationships. Waifu is also, objectively, crazy. Even the most "sane" and "sober" interpretations of waifuism - "I'm a schizophrenic, my relationship is imaginary" - are still pretty nuts.
On the other hand, the primary goal of mental health is ensuring quality of life, right? In some instances, for some people, finding an imaginary friend may well be the healthiest and most therapeutic thing for them. At the very least, imaginary friendships are a preferable alternative to many other methods of self-medication, like drugs or stalking or, as Deadrisinglover is intimating, suicide! For example, children often develop "imaginary friends", and this isn't considered problematic. Many societies and cultures also treat relationships between spiritual entities and particularly devout worshippers in much the same way as waifuists do; at what point does an ascetic holyman, sitting in his cell, meditating on God, turn into the fat neckbeard sitting in his room, fantasizing about Sailor Moon?
There's an old Akira Kurosawa movie I really liked - Dodesukaden. It's a series of short stories about a group of broken people who live in a ramshackle shantytown inside an urban landfill. All of the characters have different dreams and delusions which come to define them, and one of the interesting themes throughout is how the more detached from reality the character becomes, the happier and more fulfilled he is. Imagination becomes the primary force that drives our lives forward.
Storyline spoilers; don't read if the video above piqued your curiosity, just watch the movie instead: The one character with absolutely no illusions about life is the Cucked Man. Objectively speaking, he's probably got the best life out of anyone in the film; he's wealthier, healthier, and has a better social support network, than the other dump-dwelling weirdos around him. But he's also completely unable to retreat into fantasy; he realizes his life's shit, he is unwilling to join his community's delusions (even when they beg him), and eventually the misery of his existence destroys him.
On the flip side, the character with the most objectively shitty life - a destitute homeless man slowly dying of some unspecified illness - also happens to be the happiest and most self-actualized inhabitant of the dump. He is that way specifically because he's so willfully deluded about the reality of his life. Even when this poor man is on his deathbed (or death sidewalk-covered-in-piles-of-trash), he's still beaming from ear to ear, utterly convinced that life is great for him. His life may be shit, but his quality of life is actually quite admirable.
Many of the people who get into waifus are, frankly, not likely to find, nor are capable of maintaining, real world relationships any time soon. Given where their lives are at currently, finding actual friends, let alone a real live romantic partner, is simply not feasible for the average waifuist. People's lives can change, of course, and one would hope that the waifuist's life might change for the better, somewhere down the line; giving up any chance of real world relationships is not healthy, and any community that would actively seek to undermine a participant's ability to work towards real world relationships (like r/waifuism) is clearly fucked. But as a temporary panacea, or even as a longterm prosthetic in the case of someone who is truly incapable of loving/being loved, I don't really see much "wrong" with waifuism. In fact, given the right mindset and treatment strategies, I think it may even be possible for - say - healthcare professionals to harness waifuism as a force for good in the lives of autists, schizos, and lonely incels.
tl;dr I don't think the problem is so much waifus, as it is Reddit and the fact that the patients have taken over the asylum.
He often ignores DMs entirely and only responds to comments on his profile, if anything. He assumes everyone is a troll, so yeah it'd probably do nothing.
Also, a tidbit of information I've never seen posted here before: The mods actually have an "unspoken rule" regarding KiwiFarms - they're supposed to delete any post even mentioning this thread and pretty much pretend we don't exist, which adds to the cult-like aspect.
Many of the people who get into waifus are, frankly, not likely to find, nor are capable of maintaining, real world relationships any time soon. Given where their lives are at currently, finding actual friends, let alone a real live romantic partner, is simply not feasible for the average waifuist. People's lives can change, of course, and one would hope that the waifuist's life might change for the better, somewhere down the line; giving up any chance of real world relationships is not healthy, and any community that would actively seek to undermine a participant's ability to work towards real world relationships (like r/waifuism) is clearly fucked. But as a temporary panacea, or even as a longterm prosthetic in the case of someone who is truly incapable of loving/being loved, I don't really see much "wrong" with waifuism. In fact, given the right mindset and treatment strategies, I think it may even be possible for - say - healthcare professionals to harness waifuism as a force for good in the lives of autists, schizos, and lonely incels.
Is it better to have the fictional waifu or a real one? Obviously the latter, we can take this for granted. Imagine mountains, and to be as high on the highest mountain is the objective good. Thus, the question becomes is it better to optimize for the current circumstance, to climb the mountain of delusion to its summit? Or is it better to abandon the delusion and endure the troughs while seeking, eventually climbing the much higher mountain of the IRL wife? From where I'm standing the answer is obvious, but maybe that's why I'm not one of the cultists. After all, one way promises a mild improvement in circumstances or at least an even keel mediocrity. The other promises immediate suffering for a future happiness that may never arrive.
Also, a tidbit of information I've never seen posted here before: The mods actually have an "unspoken rule" regarding KiwiFarms - they're supposed to delete any post even mentioning this thread and pretty much pretend we don't exist, which adds to the cult-like aspect.
I'd like to second this in particular. There are two types of r/w users, the older ones that know that this thread exists and check it religiously (I used to be in this category and I know a couple of them will be reading this, hi), and the new ones that remain blissfully unaware. Most people that stick around find out eventually but it gets passed around privately because it really is the unspoken rule to mention the big bad farms. It's probably for the best, honestly, don't need a new retard sperging out in here every week.
This is gonna be autistic as fuck of me but I'm kind of hung up on this. Like it's making me really sad. The past couple of pages it's been really visible how damaging waifuism actually is to mentally vulnerable people. Imagine that you're isolated from your friends, you're struggling with a mental health problem, and all that's making you happy is a video game and then these people tell you about dating this character, and drag you into their circle. You're now stuck reliant on these people who don't actually care about you, they just want you there to further their cause, and you can't trust outside people because they all seem to be bullies because they're mocking you for saying you're dating a game character. it's a mix of humiliation (as they actively reward and encourage those who go public with their love, taking body pillows in public, telling family members, etc) and dependency on the sub that drags people deeper into the mindset and look where that's getting the members who feel ostracized and are posting on fucking r/suicidewatch. it's just so damn depressing. shit like this makes me tempted to ween and reach out, but i know that would do nothing. they'd chimp out at the suggestion of dropping what gave them a reason to live. What do you do in that situation, you cannot trust outsiders and your own circle doesn't care enough to help you? Waifuism is a plague I swear
He often ignores DMs entirely and only responds to comments on his profile, if anything. He assumes everyone is a troll, so yeah it'd probably do nothing.
Also, a tidbit of information I've never seen posted here before: The mods actually have an "unspoken rule" regarding KiwiFarms - they're supposed to delete any post even mentioning this thread and pretty much pretend we don't exist, which adds to the cult-like aspect.
I'd like to second this in particular. There are two types of r/w users, the older ones that know that this thread exists and check it religiously (I used to be in this category and I know a couple of them will be reading this, hi), and the new ones that remain blissfully unaware. Most people that stick around find out eventually but it gets passed around privately because it really is the unspoken rule to mention the big bad farms. It's probably for the best, honestly, don't need a new retard sperging out in here every week.
Is it better to have the fictional waifu or a real one? Obviously the latter, we can take this for granted. Imagine mountains, and to be as high on the highest mountain is the objective good. Thus, the question becomes is it better to optimize for the current circumstance, to climb the mountain of delusion to its summit? Or is it better to abandon the delusion and endure the troughs while seeking, eventually climbing the much higher mountain of the IRL wife? From where I'm standing the answer is obvious, but maybe that's why I'm not one of the cultists. After all, one way promises a mild improvement in circumstances or at least an even keel mediocrity. The other promises immediate suffering for a future happiness that may never arrive.
I don't know if it has to be an either/or; I think given the right guidance and environment, a waifuist could have a waifu AND keep working on climbing the mountain. I'm thinking of something like this maybe
It's really spergy, but the guy's heart is in the right place - he's leveraging autistic interests for positive gains. If Sonic the Hedgehog and Rainbow Dash could inspire even one autist to eat right and exercise, that's a win in my books!
(like I said before, though, I do NOT think r/w is going to be a viable place for this. It's a waifu crackhouse; anyone who gets sucked into that community is going to wind up worse off than they were.)
