TGWTG Nostalgia Chick / Lindsay Ellis / TheDudette - aka Hotdogs in face girl

I think it's just laziness.

Kids will develop a fixation on youtubers. It's intrinsic to the medium, just as TV was to an earlier generation. Length has nothing to do with it. You can post a long, uninteresting diatribe; but only to pad out the runtime so you can get that sweet ad money. Or save yourself the cost of an editor, since you're too inept to do it yourself.
It's probably done because people will give money to the streamers while ad revenue is more inconsistent. Streamers can first do the stream live and make money from superchats, bits, or subs then other people will watch the stream when it's finished. So you're probably to get more money from 1 video by doing a livestream than just doing a scripted video. There's people who do their streams on twitch then post them on youtube. Livestreams can be very lucrative, even more so than just a normal scripted video.
 
I thought it was just a video analysis so I click on it and it's a livestream. So okay, "How long could this possibly be?" I wonder and decide to check it out later when the entire thing is done. And I check the channel and these niggers have videos ranging from 6-10 hours.

No one's got time for this shit.
I would agree but I find Sitch and Adam to actually be really entertaining, well read, and generally intelligent. I also like long streams focusing on dissecting content—it's good for falling asleep.
 
You need to get friends, dude.
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No need to tell me... there is a reason I have so much inside knowledge of publishing and the spec fiction community. Only thing NYT Bestseller is good for is branding and marketing.

There are better ways to track sales numbers - BookScan is decent - but in so many places there is so much inflation of numbers and putting your thumb on the scale. Goodreads is especially infamous.

Again, that a woman who bought herself a couple of Hugo nods couldn't manage multiple weeks on the Bestsellers lists speaks volumes to how shallow her ability to turn YouTube and Patreon numbers into real influence.
Okay, now I'm curious. What are the criteria for NYT putting a book on their "best-sellers" list (and other sites like Goodreads if they used the same skewed measuring system). Is it some sort of deal with publishers?
 
Okay, now I'm curious. What are the criteria for NYT putting a book on their "best-sellers" list (and other sites like Goodreads if they used the same skewed measuring system). Is it some sort of deal with publishers?

Okay, this is going to be a bit of a rant seeing as this is the kind of inside baseball shit I live for.

Officially? Its a list of certain "select" book stores and retailers, mostly centered around the Northeast, that all the big 5 publishers and multiple PR firms all know about.

That regionalism is a big way the list backfires - say, an author who sells really well in the South or out west, or any publisher not based out of New York or Boston, is at a major disadvantage.

It's also ridiculously easy to put your thumb on the scale with the right connections and money to burn, and as a metric its useful mostly for dick measuring, not actual book sales.

Even then, the NYT gets final say and can choose to exclude your book entirely. I believe other members have brought up the most famous example, The Exorcist, whose author sued the paper unsuccessfully over that.

One of the most obvious ways they put thier thumbs on the scale is leaving older books off the list as much as possible (making exceptions for major boosts in numbers). To use my spec fiction background as an example, if they didn't do that, the genre Bestsellers list would be Tolkien, then Rowling, then a mix of big name back catalogs of guys like Robert Jordan, OSC, etc, whose decade old books sell more copies in a month than most newer authors sell in thier career.

I can tell you there are multiple marketing firms who literally specialize in rigging the numbers in your favor for the right price. Not to mention special interest groups - any time a major public figure or politician drops a book, rest assured various charities or PACs connected to them are buying thier book in bulk.

As a result there are authors who sell millions of books who never make the NYT Bestsellers List... and authors who sell less than 20k who made the list.

Goodreads is totally worthless. You can pay for a few hundred reviews for $5 on certain websites.

As for good metrics? Nielsen BookScan is the best. They track total sales numbers nationally, including digital sales, which the NYT does not. You also have to pay to access it, so most people never see those numbers.

For more casual measurements, Amazon isn't too bad, but thier numbers fluctuate a lot, and things like price or sales/deals can have an impact.

Long story short? If you want real nunbers Nielsen BookScan has them, or close to it.

Otherwise? Your best tools are your eyes. Look at your book stores and libraries, see what's actually on the shelves, and more importantly, what's selling and people are actually buying and reading.

Also, what ends up getting sent to second hand book stores or collecting dust in clearance bins. For example, you will notice most copies of Ellis' Axioms End are now making thier way from Barnes and Noble and Books-a-Million to Half-Price Books and 2nd and Charles these past couple months.

After that? Look at the authors themselves... a ton of authors who have "New York Times Bestseller" in thier bio survive and subsist off Patreon donations and grant money. Meanwhile there are "lesser" authors making a literal mint off thier work.
 
Okay, now I'm curious. What are the criteria for NYT putting a book on their "best-sellers" list (and other sites like Goodreads if they used the same skewed measuring system). Is it some sort of deal with publishers?
the exact criteria are not public, the nyt treats them as a trade secret lol. they collect sales data from select publishers and retailers, then they apply their secret editorial process to produce the actual list. authors have successfully cheated their way to a spot on the list by having someone bulk buy their book from the right stores.
 
So much for only using Twitter to promote content.

Both Lindsay and Contra are stuck in the cancel cycle. They anger the mindless mob, they try to explain, mob makes more demands, they explain more... back and forth covering the same ground over and over, circling the drain.

I dislike both of them but they should just stop talking about this shit and ignore the mob. They are not right-wing, so no one's going to write an NYT article on why they're an evil racist who needs deplatforming or protest outside their homes. All they are getting is catty comments on social media. Just move on.

Oh wait, they're both stunted narcissists who think Twitter is real life. Nevermind.
 
Gosh, why is everyone so mean to Hontra? Lindsay white knights, again.

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The accusers are always mistaken or misinformed when it comes to Lindsay and her friends. Funny that.
Notice how Lindsay is not listing examples over what, who and why people want an apology from Nick?

Very easy to perpetuate the grift that she and Nick are still ""cancelled"" in spite of being more popular and richer than ever by pretending they are still ""victims"" of a bunch of keyboard warriors Lindsay never identifies. With quarries she never explains.
 
the exact criteria are not public, the nyt treats them as a trade secret lol. they collect sales data from select publishers and retailers, then they apply their secret editorial process to produce the actual list. authors have successfully cheated their way to a spot on the list by having someone bulk buy their book from the right stores.
Hi, L. Ron Hubbard.
 
So much for only using Twitter to promote content.

Both Lindsay and Contra are stuck in the cancel cycle. They anger the mindless mob, they try to explain, mob makes more demands, they explain more... back and forth covering the same ground over and over, circling the drain.

I dislike both of them but they should just stop talking about this shit and ignore the mob. They are not right-wing, so no one's going to write an NYT article on why they're an evil racist who needs deplatforming or protest outside their homes. All they are getting is catty comments on social media. Just move on.

Oh wait, they're both stunted narcissists who think Twitter is real life. Nevermind.

I think that's what many of us could rat out from her since the video. Or even before. She HAS to be the one with the last laugh. She HAS to be one that has the final say on the matter. Otherwise, her ego cannot allow her to let bygones be bygones. She still reeling in losing one of her biggest weapons against the opposition. Contra too suffers from the same problem.

This is a backstab waiting to happen. Like I'm not joking. I see these kinds of people go against each other the moment it suits their narrative. And the fact they are narcissists that cannot filter Twatter from Real Life says a lot. This powder is going to turn on eventually. The question is what is it going to take to cause it to explore.
 
Gosh, why is everyone so mean to Hontra? Lindsay white knights, again.

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The accusers are always mistaken or misinformed when it comes to Lindsay and her friends. Funny that.
Once again, Lindsay gets SO CLOSE to realizing that the same "I HEARD THIS PERSON IS A NAZI AND I WILL ASSERT THIS WITHOUT PROOF WHEN THEIR ONLY CRIME WAS NOT AGREEING 100% WITH THE ULTRA WOKE LEFT" tactics she used is now being used on her and Nyk, and there is nothing she can do to curb their bloodlust aside from giving away all their money to them (and even then it won't be enough).

How do them apples taste, Wine Aunt? :story:
 
With allies on the left who needs enemies like Nazis.
These people are programmed to attack up no matter who it is and that leads to them devouring their own like a bunch of malicious chimps.
The reason for this is mainly because they're the ones who want to be at the top and are spiteful that they're just bottom feeders despite hating people who seem to have it made.
Ellis and Contra are always getting on people's nerves because some of their leftist peers are aware of the influence and power they possess.
They want to be in the room where it happens but seem to be unaware this means becoming the very thing they claim to hate.
 
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