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Newspaper at the stand with the headline that 2021 could or would have a higher death toll than 2020.
They really want people to be afraid 24-7, don't they?
They really want people to be afraid 24-7, don't they?
Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big
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It's really fascinating trying to apply pre-2020 logic to Current Decade. Like why is telling people "I don't support vaccination, and here's why" considered the second worst thing you can do after saying "I think the 2020 US election was stolen, and here's why?" Their reasoning is that it's a "public health issue" and will literally kill people, but isn't this the same as arguing against any other public health measure? Shouldn't it be just as bad to say "I think smoking should be allowed in buildings, and here's why" or "I think seatbelt laws are stupid, and here's why?" since doing either will also literally get people killed (and has)?
Yes, I know tobacco companies got huge fines from Congress for saying smoking didn't cause lung cancer and secondhand smoke didn't exist, but that's on the basis they were covering up the dangers of their product and thus is consumer deceit. It's not the same thing as a 3rd party weighing the evidence and deciding they believe smoking is good for you. I don't smoke and think most smoking restrictions are sane, but I don't believe it should be censored from existence or discussion. Like there's more of an argument for hate speech being banned than there is for questioning public health policy.
Basically, why is saying "I don't believe what public health experts say about this" on some subjects considered okay but certain topics are forbidden from questioning? Maybe it really is better to go through life without thinking and trying to apply logic to things, because you'll only be driven to insanity.
Yes, I know tobacco companies got huge fines from Congress for saying smoking didn't cause lung cancer and secondhand smoke didn't exist, but that's on the basis they were covering up the dangers of their product and thus is consumer deceit. It's not the same thing as a 3rd party weighing the evidence and deciding they believe smoking is good for you. I don't smoke and think most smoking restrictions are sane, but I don't believe it should be censored from existence or discussion. Like there's more of an argument for hate speech being banned than there is for questioning public health policy.
Basically, why is saying "I don't believe what public health experts say about this" on some subjects considered okay but certain topics are forbidden from questioning? Maybe it really is better to go through life without thinking and trying to apply logic to things, because you'll only be driven to insanity.
Well because that would be like when Donald Trump told you to shine a light in your lungs which would KILL PEOPLE. That was almost as bad as when he told people to DRINK BLEACH!
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I don't see how living like that would be fun, it would be very stressfull, a struggle for survival, pray to God it never comes to this.
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Despite this "New Normal" of everyone wearing muzzles and "social distancing", I still caught a cold earlier this winter like I have every year before.
Thegoggles muzzles do nothing!
"They" really do want us to live like this.
"They" need to be voted out.
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I am so sick of this cult-like insanity.
"They" really do want us to live like this.
"They" need to be voted out.
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Coming back to this, apparently in Germany the ct values are handled as ct<30 being definitely positive, and ct>30 being "low concentration", which is considered positive, but acknowledged as not really useful for saying anything about how contagious the person is.
That means at least 40% of the positive tests are pointless (likely more than 50% considering the second violin plot of people 1-21 before vaccination), but count towards the statistic. It also means that a little more than a quarter of the positive tests for fully vaccinated or recovered people will remain as positive and contagious.
So our current 7 day average is 16k new positives per day, and around 101k average for seven days. Official incidence from that is 122. The actual incidence with meaning is more like 73, considering only maybe 60% are definitely contagious.
I get that the others can become more contagious and their ct values can drop, but it is not communicated as such. It is communicated by our Dear Leader and everyone else that the incidence per 100k people is some sort of measurement of risk of infection for everyone, and even considering to normalize it not to the full population but only the unvaccinated population is the biggest bullshit I ever heard, and only serves to further inflate the numbers.
The incidence value is the one major number restrictions are tied to. Over 100 for five consecutive days means curfew and heavy restrictions on what can be open. Between 50 and 100 means slightly less restrictions, and so on.
I don't have the full statistics, especially not for Germany, but I doubt that the magic incidences of 50, 35, or like the Branch Covidians demand, 10 or 0 are even possible in this metric. Factor in false positives and it might as well be impossible.
People with low concentration results (ct>30) would need to be tested consecutively every few days to gather any meaningful data. As such the statistics are inflated with meaningless data and serve no purpose but to justify restrictions of freedom. And it's all in the open, and no heads roll in Minecraft.
/edit: Apparently people are retested, but earliest after 14 days. That means the numbers remain inflated for two weeks. Additionally, the long wait means there's less information on how many of those first positive tests with high Cts were asymptomatic/dead/other sort of fluke.
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That's the perfect way to put it. That's exactly what this scamdemic circus has been.
It's also good to see the "little people" aren't so little.
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Here we see four sacrifices to Moloch neatly arranged in individual summoning circles...
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I think questioning the official narrative has been shunned for a long time. If you question the narrative around 9/11 still people think they’re a conspiracy theorist or if you question central banking. Any time you get close to asking the right question they shut that shit down real fast.
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Oh yeah, the chair of the german ethics council is like "Little lies are absolutely fine", and "It's not forcing people to get a vaccination if you're only excluded from all the fun parts of life, you can still buy groceries and use the bus, so it's just giving people an incentive to get vaccinated, which is ethically totally fine".
I've never thought I'd ever say this, but I hope she gets culturally enriched long and hard, in Minecraft.
I've never thought I'd ever say this, but I hope she gets culturally enriched long and hard, in Minecraft.
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Got my shot since I wanna travel sometime soon, been feeling like trash for more than 24h. Constant pain, headache, chills, skin burning to the slightest touch and the urge to vomit. I've been promised slight flu symptoms and some arm pain. Good thing my weekend's off otherwise I'd have shot myself in the head. If I had a choice I'd rather not get the jab
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That's the way it's going in a lot of countries already. For example, the EU is developing a covid passport for travel across internal borders. They expect visitors to use it to travel in and out of the union as well.
We're well into the long-reaching regulatory phase of a typical moral panic, at this point. The panic itself might be forgotten in another year or two, as people realise that they were over-reacting to a relatively minor issue and try to pretend it never happened, but the social and legal changes coming down the pipe will affect everyone for decades. These passports won't go away and will open a door that allows bureaucracies to isolate individuals and groups that they decide are contributing to the ever-widening definition of "public health crisis".
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Yeah sadly you do, not sure how it is outside of EU/Russia zone but over here you pretty much will need a certificate if you wanna cross the borders. And people started selling fakes of those on the dark web already lol
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Yesterday I mentioned to a friend a thing where a bunch of politicians were gathered and everyone in the room were vaccinated, but were all wearing masks. I asked, If they want to encourage people to get vaccinated shouldn't they be NOT wearing masks, since they're vaccinated and therefore "safe?"
My friend, who I'm seriously thinking of downgrading to acquaintance, blew up and started shouting at me, using words that made me think he was hallucinating that he was speaking to an especially slow child. "IF YOU HAVE THE GERMS THEN YOU CAN STILL SPREAD THE GERMS TO SOMEONE ELSE EVEN IF YOU YOURSELF ARE SAFE!!!! THESE PEOPLE NOT WEARING MASKS ARE SELFISH STUPID IDIOTS AND THEY ARE WHY THIS WILL NEVER END!!!!"
I pointed out again that everyone in the room was vaccinated. Everyone. Why masks?
He spluttered a bit and just repeated at a slightly lower volume and using a different mix of similar words the same thing he had just said. At that point I could see that I was speaking to someone impared so I waved it off and changed the subject.
I do not like what the past year or so has done to people.
My friend, who I'm seriously thinking of downgrading to acquaintance, blew up and started shouting at me, using words that made me think he was hallucinating that he was speaking to an especially slow child. "IF YOU HAVE THE GERMS THEN YOU CAN STILL SPREAD THE GERMS TO SOMEONE ELSE EVEN IF YOU YOURSELF ARE SAFE!!!! THESE PEOPLE NOT WEARING MASKS ARE SELFISH STUPID IDIOTS AND THEY ARE WHY THIS WILL NEVER END!!!!"
I pointed out again that everyone in the room was vaccinated. Everyone. Why masks?
He spluttered a bit and just repeated at a slightly lower volume and using a different mix of similar words the same thing he had just said. At that point I could see that I was speaking to someone impared so I waved it off and changed the subject.
I do not like what the past year or so has done to people.
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My wife and I visited my dad and step-mom at their house, and my step mom was wearing a mask. She asked if I would put one on and I laughed in her face.
I'm thinking of buying a mask that says "Nigger Chattel" and wearing that in a store to see if a clerk asks me to take it off. IDK.
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I will be shocked if this goes anywhere. One can dream I suppose...
That's adorable. You're too kind.
Of course, they'll find an excuse to exempt the peaceful migrants of diversity and tollerance.
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Just gonna drop this off here (since the original Australian article is behind a paywall)
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