Gross Kelly Ronahan - Vampire Munchie Who Destroyed Her Own Legs

What part of Kelly's body will she start picking at next?

  • Stumps

    Votes: 1,437 58.6%
  • Arms

    Votes: 367 15.0%
  • Hands

    Votes: 118 4.8%
  • Face

    Votes: 229 9.3%
  • Hair

    Votes: 117 4.8%
  • Face

    Votes: 182 7.4%
  • She will find an entirely new way of harming herself

    Votes: 827 33.7%

  • Total voters
    2,453
  • Poll closed .
Damn, I really got hammered for this post in way I didn't expect.

All I was trying to say is this person is deeply mentally ill and someone should have helped her. I wasn't trying to defend her insane actions or anything like that.

I'm not complaining about negrates either. I do frequent this board but I'm not super familiar with the culture of it so that's on me. I apologize, I could easily be wrong on this.
She has been helped, many times. Hundreds of thousands of dollars of life saving medical resources and hundreds of hours of doctoral care were spent on her self-destructive need for attention, resources that could've been used on people who wouldn't have squandered it by mutilating themselves after everything was said and done.

She got help back then and she's getting it now, but the docs are onto her shit and hopefully she'll be getting mental help right alongside her stump therapy. But knowing her after reading the fucking thread, she's going to resist every step of the way and slide right back to where she was before. Metal disorders as severe as hers are resistant to treatment for a reason.
 
Yes, Kelly is deeply mentally ill. She has also been given so much help. More so than most. But until Kelly wants to drop this delusion (that she's got Behcets), and do the work to get better - she'll never change. She'll never get better. And if having her rotted legs removed hasn't woken her up, then I doubt anything ever will.
I guess not. I have read some of this thread way prior to this but didn't think it would come to this kind of macabre conclusion (and it doesn't seem like it'll be the conclusion). She honestly should have been instutionalized quite a while ago. That is what I mean by saying she needed help. Not some dipshit therapist but serious inpatient mental care.

But we don't do that in the US anymore so it was more just thinking out loud, so to speak.
 
Medical maggots are seriously amazing. Tiny little critters that will only eat bad tissue and bad tissue alone. No surgeon can ever be as skilled and accurate as those little critters. Seriously. First time you remove a bandage on a nastily deep and "impossible" wound and shake them out to see the healthy pink tissue they leave behind, you love them. Their activity in the wound even stimulate healing!
how does this even work without causing miyasis in the patient? is it really just a matter of picking the right species of fly?
 
how does this even work without causing miyasis in the patient? is it really just a matter of picking the right species of fly?
Pretty sure they're bred in some biomedical place instead of running around and catching them in the wild, that sounds unsanitary af. I think they do that with leeches too. I wonder what they do with them after they've done their job, do they dispose of them after or sterilize them somehow?
 
how does this even work without causing miyasis in the patient? is it really just a matter of picking the right species of fly?
Pretty much as far as I know. Non-burrowing fly larvae instead of the invasive ones...
Pretty sure they're bred in some biomedical place instead of running around and catching them in the wild, that sounds unsanitary af. I think they do that with leeches too. I wonder what they do with them after they've done their job, do they dispose of them after or sterilize them somehow?
Yes, they are bred in labs under sterile conditions and after they are removed from a wound (rinsed off with salt water) they are basically medical waste.

Edited to sperg more for the interested:
Fly larvae grow really fast, so they only have one "use" in them before they turn intro useless adults, so you can't reuse them. Also, even if you could, it would risk cross-contamination.
 
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I could happily sperg more about fly larvae and wound care (I used to teach this) but I'm not sure if it's relevant or just derailing the thread. Mods? Verdict?
I'm not a mod but I love this stuff.

Medical leeches are usually used in plastics- encouraging blood flow to places that aren't getting enough. They too are single-use, bred in sterile conditions and then disposed of after use.
 
I could happily sperg more about fly larvae and wound care (I used to teach this) but I'm not sure if it's relevant or just derailing the thread. Mods? Verdict?
Not a mod but hell yeah I want to know about wound maggots. You can spoiler so the chronically uncurious don't complain.

Also while we're learning cool stuff and I see @cuddle striker here, maybe you'd be so kind as to enlighten me about how amputation works (please?) I don't understand how you can just lop massive parts off humans and the rest keeps working. Isn't blood a circulatory system? Do the arteries and veins just... dead end?
 
Guessing that implant system goes into the skin/muscle somewhere? Knowing her, she's probably just going to dig around there and before you know it, she's right back where she started sans stumps.
It would go in the femur.
Granted, this girl still has one leg, but she had her foot attached backwards to her amputation site, effectively having her ankle function as a knee.

Too bad Kelly's feet are already out with the other biohazard waste.

Good for that girl but fuck that's creepy.
 
Not a mod but hell yeah I want to know about wound maggots. You can spoiler so the chronically uncurious don't complain.

Also while we're learning cool stuff and I see @cuddle striker here, maybe you'd be so kind as to enlighten me about how amputation works (please?) I don't understand how you can just lop massive parts off humans and the rest keeps working. Isn't blood a circulatory system? Do the arteries and veins just... dead end?


They'll dead end, yes. The major arteries and veins get snipped and stitched, closed off. The body will compensate. Since there's nothing below the amputation site there's no reason for blood to go there anymore. It can actually reduce strain on the heart, because there's less need for pressure for venous return from that extremity.

They preserve as many local vessels as they can to keep the end of the stump perfused. This is a flap amputation, so they cut the bone higher, then use tissue and skin to wrap over and seal.

AKA are very difficult long healing surgeries. It's the skin being pulled across the wound that causes problems mostly, abrasions on the end of them, etc.
 
I think there aren't enough optimistic ratings for everyone saying she's gonna realize what she did. Having realizations that you fucked up is for (mostly) normal people. Normal people do not pick the flesh from their limbs, let alone to the point of exposed tissue/bone. Normal people do not take videos of their exposed muscles contracting for social media asspats. Normal people do not scrape their exposed bones with scissors. Normal women do not put razors up their cunt.

Her realizing "oh I fucked up and I need to change" is a thing she is very likely incapable of doing mentally.
 
Mods forgive me, but I’ll have to ‘sperg all out… Just this once.



Wound care in general below

First of, I’d like to talk a little about wound care in general. I think maybe it will help people understand the basics of Kelly’s fuckups a bit more.

The following is just basic wound care 101 adjusted for the non-medical people… The medicals will hopefully protest a little that I oversimplify, but I’m trying to make it easy.

To help a wound heal, you need to stay with just a few basic principles. If you can’t handle the wound and keep it manageable, you need a surgeon or doctor for it. I’m not a doctor. I’m just the grunt of a nurse.

Wounds like to be moist. Not wet, moist. I think this was proven all the way back in 1964, so it always baffles me that you have to keep repeating it. Wounds should not be wet and they should not get to dry out. If you think of a wound as just the body inside out, you should get the idea.

To heal a wound, you need to remove stuff from it. Think of all the nasty yellow and discolored stuff as a splinter or a foreign object in the body. It needs to go.

I have a simple approach for this, that I like to teach: You only need two objects for wound care, if you need more, you need someone who does wounds professionally. The two objects are fibrin dissolvent (Comes in gel or liquid spray form) and a plastic tweezer. Not metal!

Your plastic tweezer is your best friend, because it limits how much force you can apply to the wound. This is important, because with the metal tweezers you can easily damage the wound or the healthy tissue surrounding it. Plastic tweezers will give if you try to pull or pinch too hard, so you can easily see how much force you can apply. If you can pull something out of the wound with your plastic tweezers, it was because it needed to go. If you can’t, you need someone who does it for a living.

I’m firmly against using scissors or scalpels on a wound, if you are not someone who specialize in it. Can you tell?

Your other best friend is fibrin dissolvent gel or spray. Fibrin is a sticky protein film that glues wounds together. By dissolving the fibrin, you can remove the wound cover easily. It needs about ten minutes to work. After this, you should be able to pinch off or pull off the nasty in the wound with your plastic tweezers.

After having cleaned the wound up, you should cover it again to keep dirt from getting into it, and to keep yourself from being bothered by it. How much cover it needs and how it should be done, is according to what is comfortable for you. Other than liking to be moist, wounds are not really that picky. There are so many different wound care materials, but things like carbon, honey and silver is usually more for the patient than the wound itself.

How absorbent the bandage needs to be, depends on the wound. Other than things like post-surgical wounds (Again, you need someone who does this for a living, not the grunt) you should not need to change it more than once a day. Change the bandage if it threatens to bleed or seep through, other than that leave it alone. The body knows what it is doing and you only need to support it by removing the parts it can’t do itself.

One final point is the difference between sterile and clean. I feel like this is misunderstood a lot. Basically, as a rule of thumb, if something needs to be sterile, you need a professional. “Clean” more or less just means to keep the unwanted bacteria out of it. Wounds don’t need to be sterile past surgery. In fact, the skin is heavily dependent on the right bacteria living on it to function. So for most wounds you actually want bacteria on it, as long as it’s the right ones. The good bacteria on your skin outcompetes the bad bacteria, so if you go crazy with disinfectant, you are removing both and giving the bad ones the chance to colonize first. There is a fancy term for those bacteria that are good one place, but can cause problems if they colonize a place they weren’t supposed to go, but I can’t think of it in English. Sorry.
Edit: Pathobiont bacteria. Thank you @rutinacea max

This is exactly why we have seen Kelly go nuts with disinfectant sometimes. Bitch knows what she is doing. Unfortunately.

Well, that was my attempt to make wound care practical and easy to understand. Anyways…



Medical maggots below

To start off: These maggots are bred and live under sterile circumstances in a lab. Once they reach the right size, they are shipped out.

I tried to google for it, but can say there seems to be different breeds used for this. The kind I have seen results in those tubby, blue and slightly sluggish flies once they grow up. They look exactly like the big lazy flies you scare off if you come across a dead animal in the wild.

And that is pretty much what they are, really…. What we are taking advantage of medically is that these flies results in larvae that are absolutely ravenous, but doesn’t have the ability to chew tissue that is too tough. Meaning, they can only eat damaged, decaying or dead tissue. Which also means they can’t dig or burrow through healthy tissue. Exactly like with yesterdays road kill.

This also means that these little critters are amazing at seeking out food once you put them on a wound. They will worm around in there, getting around in any nook and cranny to eat everything they can. Basically, if you find a little maggot somewhere it shouldn’t have been, it’s because it has been going through some destroyed tissue and it has done your patient a favour.

When a surgeon removes damaged tissue, there is absolutely no way to avoid either taking too little damaged tissue or removing healthy tissue with it. Maggots are as good at this as a dog avoiding their worm medication hidden in their food.

And contrary to what you might think, they are actually not slimy. I think the closest I can describe them as, is like touching a lizard. Slightly cold, not really smooth but not really rough either. When you put them to work, they are just tiny, but once you remove them they are about 1 cm long and almost as fat around.

Their useful stage is about 2-3 days long. Before that, they are too small to eat enough, and after, they get too big.

One thing they are masters of, is the diabetic wound. I don’t want to go into too much detail about diabetic food wounds here, but just say that diabetes is an absolute shitshow (See: Chantal). If your diabetes gets to a point where you get foot sores, you are slowly but thoroughly fucked with no lube and no aftercare.

I can give an example of a patient I had ages ago: He had diabetes and had gone on a skiing vacation. But because of the diabetes, he had not felt that his nail clippers had fallen into his boot from being in his luggage. He skied on it all day, and a foot ulcer developed. He had to have a middle toe amputated, which makes a really deep and troublesome wound. You simply can’t really get in there to clean it, and you can’t really see what you’re doing. So we basically funneled the little maggots in there to get to work, and then rinsed them back out two days later. It worked absolutely perfectly. I think only the medicals can nod along and really understand how impressive this is, but I have ‘sperged and derailed too much to get into the horrors of diabetes….

Anyways.

To answer a question I know will come up: Yes, some patients can feel the maggots wiggle around in the wound. You can’t feel the individual maggots because they’re too small, but the general feeling of “activity”. They say it’s not unpleasant at all, and not worse than the usual itching that a wound does when it goes through the healing process.

Funnily enough: All the patients I have seen with maggot therapy seemed to have developed some sort of attachment to them, and some even get upset that they are going to be destroyed as medical waste after doing their jobs.

My conclusion is that it’s a shame these little critters aren’t used more. They are nature’s perfect little decaying-tissue-cleaners.
 
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