Clashes between Jews and Palestinians in Jerusalem. Israel now invading Gaza according to (Questionable) Reports - If your thoughts are "I don't like either" you don't need to fucking post because it's been said 100 times you fucking dullard

I don't care what your take on it is, I'm addressing the claims.
The "stockpiles" can't be under the civilian buildings or infrastructure struck by Israel, because it is in the city, and the rockets being fired are overwhelmingly not. Israel has not claimed almost any of their strikes in Gaza proper were related to missile depots, the only tower strike they addressed specifically they claimed had "intelligence operations" in it which is a bunch of Muhammads with cellphones sitting in a room. None of the towers have been struck to the underground, surface demolition only, and the strikes they've done to hit alleged underground targets have actually been low angle strikes that don't demolish the building underneath. The Al Jazeera strike is a good example.
You'd have to imagine these fuckhuge fiberglass rockets are being shipped twenty minutes across a complex network of tunnels, it's not likely, to say the least, even if the Palestinians had infinite gasoline and good shipping and lots of room to work with.
Another way to look at it is that despite dozens of buildings hit in Gaza proper (not bothering to hit underground), rocketfire accelerated, it didn't stop or even decelerate a bit. If Israel is trying to hobble Hamas, it's doing a shit job, yet the IDF insists publicly that it hopes to strike more of the same targets and that the mission is going well.
In other words, these strikes aren't really about Hamas, are they?

If anyone can find a video of these rockets being shipped, secondary detonations, or any street view demonstrating mid-city launches (not Israelis leveling buildings for fun) then be my guest, I'm very legitimately interested, until then it simply doesn't pass the sniff test.


Yeah, and people keep buying. It's pretty hilarious.
There's a few videos of midcity launches from neutral third party news


from 2014 but they use the same tactics still. Israel has also claimed that they are hitting missile depots:

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There's a few videos of midcity launches from neutral third party news


from 2014 but they use the same tactics still. Israel has also claimed that they are hitting missile depots:

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The first video you linked demonstrates how they improvise these locations and how it's using an unoccupied, open site, to set up a small launcher. The pad in this video is super noticeable and would be an easy target based on current Israeli tactics. Meanwhile, the smallest rocket currently being fired by Hamas would be too large for the launch-pad shown in the second video you linked. Israel has the potential and capability to strike these sorts of locations without leveling the buildings, as it has demonstrated already over the past few days, but it hasn't bothered, and it's not consistent with the idea the rockets are all somewhere underground either.
I am primarily concerned with actual videos of it happening now, in the current conflict. It shouldn't be hard, because it's in the IDF's best interest to post such videos if they have them, and there are a shitload of Gazans filming the events ongoing themselves, due to the proliferation of cell phones and social media over the past 7 years. You'd think you'd see at least a few go off "accidentally" in the background, but not so far as I've seen.

Funny how things were so quiet between the two tards under Trump.
Bibi didn't need to force re-election yet. Ariel Sharon did the exact same shit when he wanted to cement his reign, cut off as it was by the stroke.
 
I don't care what your take on it is, I'm addressing the claims.
The "stockpiles" can't be under the civilian buildings or infrastructure struck by Israel, because it is in the city, and the rockets being fired are overwhelmingly not. Israel has not claimed almost any of their strikes in Gaza proper were related to missile depots, the only tower strike they addressed specifically they claimed had "intelligence operations" in it which is a bunch of Muhammads with cellphones sitting in a room. None of the towers have been struck to the underground, surface demolition only, and the strikes they've done to hit alleged underground targets have actually been low angle strikes that don't demolish the building underneath. The Al Jazeera strike is a good example.
You'd have to imagine these fuckhuge fiberglass rockets are being shipped twenty minutes across a complex network of tunnels, it's not likely, to say the least, even if the Palestinians had infinite gasoline and good shipping and lots of room to work with.
Another way to look at it is that despite dozens of buildings hit in Gaza proper (not bothering to hit underground), rocketfire accelerated, it didn't stop or even decelerate a bit. If Israel is trying to hobble Hamas, it's doing a shit job, yet the IDF insists publicly that it hopes to strike more of the same targets and that the mission is going well.
In other words, these strikes aren't really about Hamas, are they?

If anyone can find a video of these rockets being shipped, secondary detonations, or any street view demonstrating mid-city launches (not Israelis leveling buildings for fun) then be my guest, I'm very legitimately interested, until then it simply doesn't pass the sniff test.


Yeah, and people keep buying. It's pretty hilarious.

Why is it always the Hamas controlled areas that are constantly a problem and dragging the West Bank into their shit?
 
Why is it always the Hamas controlled areas that are constantly a problem and dragging the West Bank into their shit?
Muslims glorify violent martyrs while Christians glorify innocent martyrs. Hamas had a noble goal ("Please stop murdering Muslims on your nationalist holiday to power the golems, Mr. Rabbi"), but where a Buddhist would self immolate, Hamas has the bright idea to threaten to fire rockets. The Israelis are obviously pleased by this, because they have a metaphorical dome designed specifically to stop rocket fire, and then Hamas is put in the unfortunate position of having to make good on its threats. A measly seven rockets are fired, and Israel retaliates incredibly disproportionately, and Hamas is stuck either going in again or "conceding defeat," and they can't do that because Allah would disown them, so onwards it goes.

The West Bank has no one who cares enough to even fire rockets for them, which is why they're sometimes sympathetic.
 
I'm probably more sympathetic to the Palestinian cause than most people here- even factoring Hamas & other terror groups it's pretty one sided from any way you look at it in terms of civilian deaths, destruction of civilian buildings- but seeing the vocally pro Hamas/Hezbollah side on Twitter is pretty jarring & in no way are they doing favors for the cause lol. There's this Lebanese journalist I found that's gone full fedposting the past few days. Unlike a lot of pro-Palestinian leftists in the west, I feel like he genuinely doesn't care about decorum for anything, he openly cheers on Hamas & other militants, goes into conspiracies others wouldn't bring up & I think you can argue he has actual antisemitic views esque the way Black Hammer views Jews. The advice he would give to Palestinians is clearly objective terrorism, can't find the tweet but i saw one where he was implying Hamas literally has to attack civilians to liberate Palestine, & would just set them up for even more slaughter than Israel is doing currently.


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i found him unusually optimistic to say that attacks by Hamas, other militant groups & Palestinians in Israel itself the past few days show that this "liberation" actually succeeded especially with the already dozens of Palestinians killed rn.
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i love him causally declaring the CIA did 9/11 & the Arab Spring in his explanations about how Israel is falling, surprised he doesn't blame Mossad for it honestly.
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a not very halal joke
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Him turning on some leftist Jew that calls herself pro-Palestinian for denouncing Hamas. He uses the same exact tactic of Black Hammer where if whites are guilty of white supremacy, all jews are guilty of being colonists- pretty sure this woman never lived in Israel.
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the fucking balls on him to call those videos of Israelis panicking about missile threats as a crisis actors, that's the shit western leftists, even muslims, wouldn't dare post.
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geuninely please don't report this guy on twitter, guerantee his time is numbered on there already because of the Zionists who monitor these types of posts, apparently his facebook got completely removed recently. I'm kinda fascinated by what he can get away with on Twitter before the inevitable removal.
 
Funny how things were so quiet between the two tards under Trump.
This never would have happened under Donny's reign. Seriously, Hamas would have had their haram asses handed to them if they so much as lit one of their shitty paper jihad rockets while Trump was president.
 
So they don't fit into this weird comic book narrative you've created in your head about other people dying.

I feel ya bro.
The people being beaten in the Mosque at Al-Aqsa are technically "West Bank Palestinians" who have been "integrated" "into Israel," so they absolutely fit into the "comic book narrative" that is the pretty simple and abridged explanation of what precipitated the current violence in Israel, thank you very much. It's the current West Bankers not living in Israeli occupied areas no one cares about, because they aren't in control of any of the important Muslim holy sites. You can read about the myriad human rights violations committed against the West Bank by the Israelis yearly on your choice of human rights website, pretty much all of them document it.
e: For clarity, the Mosque at Al-Aqsa is what constitutes "an important Muslim holy site," which is why Hamas volunteered to shoot rockets after Israelis kept raiding it, in the first place. Similar activity is what caused the second Intifada, None of what is happening is a surprise.
You may want to go cool down a bit, you keep trying to turn my answers to your platitudes into something personal, which it isn't. It's not a crime to not know anything about the Middle East. It's a pretty horrid and boring place, aside from all the bombs.
 
The people being beaten in the Mosque at Al-Aqsa are technically "West Bank Palestinians" who have been "integrated" "into Israel," so they absolutely fit into the "comic book narrative" that is the pretty simple and abridged explanation of what precipitated the current violence in Israel, thank you very much. It's the current West Bankers not living in Israeli occupied areas no one cares about, because they aren't in control of any of the important Muslim holy sites. You can read about the myriad human rights violations committed against the West Bank by the Israelis yearly on your choice of human rights website, pretty much all of them document it.
e: For clarity, the Mosque at Al-Aqsa is what constitutes "an important Muslim holy site," which is why Hamas volunteered to shoot rockets after Israelis kept raiding it, in the first place. Similar activity is what caused the second Intifada, None of what is happening is a surprise.
You may want to go cool down a bit, you keep trying to turn my answers to your platitudes into something personal, which it isn't. It's not a crime to not know anything about the Middle East. It's a pretty horrid and boring place, aside from all the bombs.

yes, yes. everyone who doesnt agree with your politics has no understanding of geopolitics etc etc etc you aint even worth punctuation or capitalization at this point
 

That looks beautiful. The funny thing is you can probably tell someone that it's a shopped art of the sky in some city for those who are unaware of the whole war.

Also too bad for the palestinians. If they're losing ground against Israel we should send those white protesters from UK and everywhere else for reinforcements. May not be a win-win for them, but for anyone else, it definitely is a win.
 
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