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Obviously Poe's Law is a thing, but this seems too far out there (even by dogfucker standards) to be real.
Zoosadist Zoosadism Megathread - Joshua "Kero the Wolf" Hoffman & Friends.
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not sure if this is old news or not, but I'm pretty sure i found Golden Retriever's FA (archive)
he's watching tuskyn, jaceshepherd and a bunch of other known zoos (including the infamous ebon lupus) and his faves are full of feral/zoo porn.
he's watching tuskyn, jaceshepherd and a bunch of other known zoos (including the infamous ebon lupus) and his faves are full of feral/zoo porn.
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Someone produced a user list for "The Outback" which has been going around Telegram, but they only retrieved the @usernames and screens of the list instead of all IDs.
@Someone4Someone
@bailyhusky
@b3_ast
@Yuumi_Cat
@Garotoh8
@xxcv119
@SaltyOctopus
@kbanana94
@Stealthyeen
@Boo_to_You
@rastastarfish
@erebusssss
@Thundog
@GreenCrandyboi
@dirtyyeen
@Foxgorl
@twinkhorse
@alfurWOLF
@Ligure74
@Good94b
@AriCrazyVixen
@alcapone560
@Kas1983
@Russianbearz
@ArelessYelyu
@TreyOtter
@Sol_Yeen
@pupkoda
@ErickWKrotse
@LTheusVDCS
@bailyhusky
@b3_ast
@Yuumi_Cat
@Garotoh8
@xxcv119
@SaltyOctopus
@kbanana94
@Stealthyeen
@Boo_to_You
@rastastarfish
@erebusssss
@Thundog
@GreenCrandyboi
@dirtyyeen
@Foxgorl
@twinkhorse
@alfurWOLF
@Ligure74
@Good94b
@AriCrazyVixen
@alcapone560
@Kas1983
@Russianbearz
@ArelessYelyu
@TreyOtter
@Sol_Yeen
@pupkoda
@ErickWKrotse
@LTheusVDCS
"The Alliance Manifesto"
The Alliance Manifesto
The Alliance Manifesto "What is your purpose?" To forge an alliance between zoophiles and zoosadists, both practicing and non practicing. This is an important step towards liberation of all zoophiles. We can only attain the necessary numbers to enact change if we work together. Unfortunately...
Key points:
- Zoophiles say it means they love animals, but that's wrong because that's not how the DSM-5 defines -philia. They're just trollshielding.
- Asserts that such zoophiles exhibit cult-like behaviors but doesn't provide any examples for the unfamiliar.
- Says they believe some guy named Randy Pepe is single-handedly responsible for the stigma against zoophilia (literally who?)
- Zoophiles should accept zoosadists if they want to be accepted by non-zoophiles.
- The zoophile mafia blackmails you into silence by threatening you with exclusion from the shittiest fandom alive.
- Drops that Karl Popper quote about the problem of unlimited tolerance.
- People who think maybe you shouldn't fuck your dog for demonstrable, physiological reasons are just Puritans.
- Asserts that such zoophiles exhibit cult-like behaviors but doesn't provide any examples for the unfamiliar.
- Says they believe some guy named Randy Pepe is single-handedly responsible for the stigma against zoophilia (literally who?)
- Zoophiles should accept zoosadists if they want to be accepted by non-zoophiles.
- The zoophile mafia blackmails you into silence by threatening you with exclusion from the shittiest fandom alive.
- Drops that Karl Popper quote about the problem of unlimited tolerance.
- People who think maybe you shouldn't fuck your dog for demonstrable, physiological reasons are just Puritans.
Now in the section "Why do you support abuse?" there's a weird logic chain that I won't really try to analyze, but I'll do the overview at least.
- Morality goes beyond utilitarianism.
- To criticize zoosadism, you must first be a vegan.
- Eating meat is like zoosadism because they're both unnecessary indulgences that harm animals.
- Zoosadism causes a much lesser scale of suffering than factory farming does. You just think it's gross.
- Animals torture and rape other animals, so we can too.
- If you think it's okay that wild animals hurt each other, then your morals aren't based on negative utilitarianism.
- If you believe in negative utilitarianism [first minimize suffering, then maximize happiness], then you should believe that all life should be destroyed, because that would eliminate suffering. [1]
- If you disagree, then you might value life. This should allow you to understand how sadists value suffering.
- The suffering that zoosadists cause is really not that big of a deal.
- You should leave us alone because what we're doing is none of your business and doesn't affect you.
- Do you have sadistic tendencies sometimes? Just imagine directing them toward an animal, then you'll totally get it bro.
- We're not anarchists or anything. We wouldn't let people run around murdering each other. It's okay for us to torture our animals because they're our property. Don't worry, we'll leave yours alone because it's not ours.
1. I'll comment on this one point. I haven't studied ethics or anything, but it seems somehow incorrect to just lock yourself fully into a certain moral system and let that be your context for all matters. On the surface, there's nothing wrong with the idea of minimizing suffering and maximizing happiness. Like anything else, this can stop working the way we wanted it to when we extrapolate it to absurd extremes. Believing in a certain morality regarding the actions that you take doesn't preclude belief in a higher principle. For example, I believe that the higher imperative is for life to continue, rather than for suffering to cease. For all life to be destroyed forever would be worse in my eyes than for suffering to exist, so enacting negative utilitarianism at such an extreme would be counterproductive to me.
And wild animals are, shockingly, not capable of our level of moral cognition.
- To criticize zoosadism, you must first be a vegan.
- Eating meat is like zoosadism because they're both unnecessary indulgences that harm animals.
- Zoosadism causes a much lesser scale of suffering than factory farming does. You just think it's gross.
- Animals torture and rape other animals, so we can too.
- If you think it's okay that wild animals hurt each other, then your morals aren't based on negative utilitarianism.
- If you believe in negative utilitarianism [first minimize suffering, then maximize happiness], then you should believe that all life should be destroyed, because that would eliminate suffering. [1]
- If you disagree, then you might value life. This should allow you to understand how sadists value suffering.
- The suffering that zoosadists cause is really not that big of a deal.
- You should leave us alone because what we're doing is none of your business and doesn't affect you.
- Do you have sadistic tendencies sometimes? Just imagine directing them toward an animal, then you'll totally get it bro.
- We're not anarchists or anything. We wouldn't let people run around murdering each other. It's okay for us to torture our animals because they're our property. Don't worry, we'll leave yours alone because it's not ours.
1. I'll comment on this one point. I haven't studied ethics or anything, but it seems somehow incorrect to just lock yourself fully into a certain moral system and let that be your context for all matters. On the surface, there's nothing wrong with the idea of minimizing suffering and maximizing happiness. Like anything else, this can stop working the way we wanted it to when we extrapolate it to absurd extremes. Believing in a certain morality regarding the actions that you take doesn't preclude belief in a higher principle. For example, I believe that the higher imperative is for life to continue, rather than for suffering to cease. For all life to be destroyed forever would be worse in my eyes than for suffering to exist, so enacting negative utilitarianism at such an extreme would be counterproductive to me.
And wild animals are, shockingly, not capable of our level of moral cognition.
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Some of this "Alliance" shit sounds an awful lot like the garbage Doug Spink was talking about during his zoo crusadering according to that doc by Toad McKinley. The name Randy Pepe in particular is pretty familiar, as I'm pretty sure it's the mysterious anti-zoo strawman (I need to double-check on the name to be 100% sure) that according to Doug and Toggle turned the entire world against zoophillia single-handedly at some point within recent history. They claimed that prior to this non-entity's existence, most normal people allegedly just tolerated animal fuckers or something.View attachment 2157614
Someone produced a user list for "The Outback" which has been going around Telegram, but they only retrieved the @usernames and screens of the list instead of all IDs.
@Someone4Someone
@bailyhusky
@b3_ast
@Yuumi_Cat
@Garotoh8
@xxcv119
@SaltyOctopus
@kbanana94
@Stealthyeen
@Boo_to_You
@rastastarfish
@erebusssss
@Thundog
@GreenCrandyboi
@dirtyyeen
@Foxgorl
@twinkhorse
@alfurWOLF
@Ligure74
@Good94b
@AriCrazyVixen
@alcapone560
@Kas1983
@Russianbearz
@ArelessYelyu
@TreyOtter
@Sol_Yeen
@pupkoda
@ErickWKrotse
@LTheusVDCS
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"The Alliance Manifesto"
[PDF attached]The Alliance Manifesto
The Alliance Manifesto "What is your purpose?" To forge an alliance between zoophiles and zoosadists, both practicing and non practicing. This is an important step towards liberation of all zoophiles. We can only attain the necessary numbers to enact change if we work together. Unfortunately...docs.google.com
Key points:
- Zoophiles say it means they love animals, but that's wrong because that's not how the DSM-5 defines -philia. They're just trollshielding.
- Asserts that such zoophiles exhibit cult-like behaviors but doesn't provide any examples for the unfamiliar.
- Says they believe some guy named Randy Pepe is single-handedly responsible for the stigma against zoophilia (literally who?)
- Zoophiles should accept zoosadists if they want to be accepted by non-zoophiles.
- The zoophile mafia blackmails you into silence by threatening you with exclusion from the shittiest fandom alive.
- Drops that Karl Popper quote about the problem of unlimited tolerance.
- People who think maybe you shouldn't fuck your dog for demonstrable, physiological reasons are just Puritans.
Now in the section "Why do you support abuse?" there's a weird logic chain that I won't really try to analyze, but I'll do the overview at least.
- Morality goes beyond utilitarianism.
- To criticize zoosadism, you must first be a vegan.
- Eating meat is like zoosadism because they're both unnecessary indulgences that harm animals.
- Zoosadism causes a much lesser scale of suffering than factory farming does. You just think it's gross.
- Animals torture and rape other animals, so we can too.
- If you think it's okay that wild animals hurt each other, then your morals aren't based on negative utilitarianism.
- If you believe in negative utilitarianism [first minimize suffering, then maximize happiness], then you should believe that all life should be destroyed, because that would eliminate suffering. [1]
- If you disagree, then you might value life. This should allow you to understand how sadists value suffering.
- The suffering that zoosadists cause is really not that big of a deal.
- You should leave us alone because what we're doing is none of your business and doesn't affect you.
- Do you have sadistic tendencies sometimes? Just imagine directing them toward an animal, then you'll totally get it bro.
- We're not anarchists or anything. We wouldn't let people run around murdering each other. It's okay for us to torture our animals because they're our property. Don't worry, we'll leave yours alone because it's not ours.
1. I'll comment on this one point. I haven't studied ethics or anything, but it seems somehow incorrect to just lock yourself fully into a certain moral system and let that be your context for all matters. On the surface, there's nothing wrong with the idea of minimizing suffering and maximizing happiness. Like anything else, this can stop working the way we wanted it to when we extrapolate it to absurd extremes. Believing in a certain morality regarding the actions that you take doesn't preclude belief in a higher principle. For example, I believe that the higher imperative is for life to continue, rather than for suffering to cease. For all life to be destroyed forever would be worse in my eyes than for suffering to exist, so enacting negative utilitarianism at such an extreme would be counterproductive to me.
And wild animals are, shockingly, not capable of our level of moral cognition.
Wonder if this group is being run by Toggle himself or any of his Zooier Than Thou co-hosts as some kind of hairbrained zoosadist honeypot, or if they just really like the podcast and are regurgitating the same false information initially propegated by Doug and Buck.
wopirish
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I'm fairly certain that animal fucking has been taboo for thousands of years in every major religion. Maybe they misunderstand the recent western method of not immediately putting down the animal fucker with a pitchfork that has cropped up and instead going for courts for that.
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They seem to forget that Levi's charges were for child abuse, and not for shagging Fido. Shows how little they think or care.
Makes me think that they look past things just for ''zoopride'' or to stick up for one another.
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Yeah, it has always been prohibited in pretty much every religion.
It's really common for them to argue otherwise, and it's wrong. I've seen zoophiles try to argue that certain depictions of Hindu gods taking the form of animals and having sex is "bestiality," which is utter bullshit. Not only is a lot of traditional myth heavily symbolic, and often not meant to be taken literally, but the god still has the spirit and soul of a god and is sentient/conscious, this is not remotely comparable to abusing a helpless animal. It's more likely that the gods were taking on the principles associated with the animals than doing this for mere pleasure. In one of the texts (Manusmriti) there are multiple passages explicitly prohibiting bestiality and proscribing punishments for it, so using these myths as evidence to justify zoophilia based on historic attitudes is obvious nonsense.
Christianity outright prohibits it too. Most traditional prohibitions look like they're done on the basis of teleology, i.e. things have an inner nature and it is good when they conform with it. Humans are meant to have sex with humans and reproduce, if they don't do that, it's unnatural and forbidden. If a human has sex with an animal, it constitutes degrading one's self to an animal nature, giving into uncontrolled desire. In occult texts, bestiality is associated with vulgar Saturn, the profane half of the dualistic god of excess and constraint. You can find at least one reference to this in the Picatrix iirc. This underscores how profane it was seen to be, and how in a spiritual sense how wicked it was for these people to abuse animals. It causes them to just sink further into their bodies and their sick desires, away from light and God.
Anywhere you see animal sex abuse represented as part of a ritual, it's acknowledged specifically that it's rape. Survive the Jive covered an Indo-European regal rite where the king rapes a horse to prove his strength and virility, since he's dominating a strong and fearsome animal. It wouldn't even fit well into the zoophile idea of "love" as they see it, but maybe a zoosadist wouldn't have a problem with it.
Still, this is a limited thing and it doesn't show up universally among cultures. Most of them banned it in all contexts, and I'm sure if you got caught banging your horse in an IE village outside that context you'd get drawn and quartered anyway. It's typically acknowledged that some things a king does are reserved for the king because they would corrupt others if not done in a detached way.
You have to go back REALLY far to see any treatment that isn't just decidedly negative, I'm talking about like ice age cave paintings. Even then, we don't know why those paintings were made. Could have just been a significant, gross thing someone witnessed that they felt the need to immortalize, it could easily be condemnatory. Anyway, the fact that the same people in the middle ages who were burning cats alive for fun were sealing people into cathedrals alive with bricks for bestiality should say something about how uniquely unnatural this was perceived to be up until today.
Skimbleshanks
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Did nothing wrong my ass. These people are a fucking joke. I bet they are all "MAPs" as well as Zoophiles. Would explain why nothing Levi did seems wrong to them.
Donutcapybara
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Kill yourself.
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deermeat
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You'd be surprised just how many OPEN zoophiles and zoosadists are on Twitter. For years. No ban. No suspension. A lot are advocates.
It makes me wonder if there are zoophiles that work for Twitter.
Donutcapybara
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And on facebook. Seriously theres a crush video ring on there, i tried to report these disgusting human beings but seems like feceberg only bans bad words
deermeat
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Oh trust me, Facebook and Insta are worst by all means. From crush porn, promoting terrorism, child porn, cannibalism, necrophilia, child porn RINGS, zoosadism, rape, etc. On Insta, you can post NSFW on private accounts. There are hundreds of "accounts" posting pictures of half-naked children, YouTubers even made videos on it. Yet... They refuse to do anything about it. So I can imagine the private accounts are even worst.
Donutcapybara
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Yes. Reminds me of a account named "@remorselessness" which terrorized instagram in 2016-17, his account was full of dead babies,animal torture and cp but
instagram didn't take action on the issue until 2017
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I feel I should also mention the abhorrent amount of minors who engage in explicit content, too.
A quick search for ''nsfwt' ''nsfwtwt'' or ''nsfwm'' will bring forth plenty of users - typically BTS obsessed 15 year olds who hide their age in their location or some shit - who constantly post or retweet porn, lewd thoughts or sugggestive content of themselves... and then they have the exceptional amount of cheek to exclaim ''but I'm a MINOR.'' when weird dudes try to sex them up. Complete disregard for their own safety, the law, as well as the lives and wellbeing of NSFW content creators.
Slightly off topic, but fucking weird nevertheless and it needs more public attention.
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Featured on May 14, 2021 by Null: NachoDog (Rebecca Scott), a zoophile who outed two other zoophiles who also molested her dog, has allegedly been euthanized by Germany after a failed heart operation (or lied about it we don't know).
Archive
It's been a while since I brought up Rebekah Scott, but it would appear she may have committed assisted suicide in Germany after a failed heart operation to treat a myriad of chronic illnesses.
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Edit for more context:
I'll be quoting from @Pukebucket's summary so things don't get too long.
The incident referred to below occurred in Renton, WA. Rebekah continued residing in WA until around October 2020 when she left to receive treatment for her heart disease.
Here is a post from Rebekah around the time the incident occurred detailing how shit went down between her, Grabowsky, and Richards. This is seemingly before she figured out that Richards was allowing Grabowsky access to her dog.
After Grabowsky's conviction, either he or Richards made an appearance on the Farms in order to post evidence of her having sex with animals as a way to take heat off themselves. Still unclear as to who was behind the account but worth including this in the post. Someone else found an account named Rebeca on a Bestiality site but given that the account is uploading videos every 15-30 min from various sources, I strongly doubt this was actually her's.
A GoFundMe was created on Sept 18, 2020 for medical costs as well as her expected travel outside the US which managed to raise $25K. No update on it though since Oct 19 of that year.
Timeline for all of the updates:
Sept 16, 2020
Sept 18-23
Sept 26
Oct 19
Tweets from her account after / around the updates. They'll be in chronological order as follows:
She re-outed Grabowsky and Daniels as well as another party
CupidTheDeer Criminal Records Telegram Group
Article from Renton, WA newspaper about the abuse
Noodle's Wikifur
Article from DogPatchPress
Concerns have been raised however that something doesn't seem right here. I have no idea how Medicaid / Medicare / SSI / any other social program works so I'm taking this speculation with a grain of salt until I can find some sources to back this up. TL;DR: Rebekah should have been able to completely cover the necessary surgery in the US due to being on SSI (which means that she should qualify for Medicaid). Otherwise, she should've just been able to file for bankruptcy and just get the surgery anyways. Germany is also still in lockdown due to COVID and had only recently started allowing assisted suicide again. The laws are really iffy though so possibly wouldn't have been able to allow her to do it yet. That and Germany just randomly covering all the healthcare costs of some broke American doesn't make sense.
I'll more than likely write a more in-depth summary tomorrow but right now I'm fucking exhausted. Just take the screenshots.
Scattered in those images somewhere, Rebekah claims she has no family. I'm going to assume she means that most of them are estranged or low-contact. Either way, I took screencaps of all her tweets that mention family members here.
People also doubted that she was ever in Germany so here is a compilation of all the media tweets proving her location. The running theory now is that she may have visited Germany, but she isn't actually living there.
Comments from Kate Shills Farm looking into the issue here and here. They also took a chronological look at the ordeal & it seems that Rebekah really was just faking it the whole time
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FursuitSerialKiller
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This is incredibly fucked up
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Part of me feels bad. If she truly did reform, this is a hell of a way to go. MuffleTheFox raised $25K for her heart surgery but I guess that wasn't enough.
I really hope she didn't leave her dog with another furry.
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What's their real name?
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At least he died the way he wanted to. Euthanized like an animal
Dark Edea
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Imagine discussing your assisted suicide due to an irreparable heart issue only to have some faggot try to relate to your plight discussing their bullshit PTSD and rape dreams as their reason for wanting the procedure.
The (hopefully) reformed furfag is clearly in a better place.
The (hopefully) reformed furfag is clearly in a better place.