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Those are old comments that ticks me a lot, sorry to necro them - I wanted to reply a while back but I've been busy irl.

I know I'm almost too obsessed with this whole 'what would happen to troons in the future' deal that it might tires out others here. But it's probably the thing I'm worried the most about trans activism. I have had a few people in my life and I couldn't really stop them, all I could do is slowly distancing myself while they're becoming more and more insufferable to be around after they troon out... And even if I stopped from talking to my troon ex-friends, I still care about where would they be in the future? How would they cope if this thing falls apart?

Unlike any post-war counterculture, this troonacy thing is endorsed by the establishment and private sector. It can't be as easily ignored as a silly blunder teenage phases you go through... because being a troon requires institutions affirmation from medical procedures and recordkeeping built on tending tranny delusions, and legal procedures allowing you to change gender in your identifications. It's not something that can go away as if nothing happened because the one in charge has to get around rectifying it. The responsible would falls on doctors, lawyers, bureaucrats, organisations and everyone who's involved in this mess.

One possible scenario IF it happens to end. IMO, detrooners will get their 15 minute of fame at one point, to ask for pity, while pharma companies and surgeons will milk out the last drop of cash out of the ones who still want to chase the dragon, trying to hopelessly 'fix' their bodies. (That won't really fix anything anyway.) Then they'll fade out of public consciousness and become an embarrassing chapter in history.

But how would they be seen and treated by regular person? Would people who still remember the days of tyranny where you could get cancelled and even put in prison for questioning gender ideology now that many decided to launder themselves into another kind of 'sad victims' again? How would ex-troons even accept themselves knowing that they would live with the marks of transitioning because of a dumb decision they made as teenagers for the rest of their life. Especially at the time where you won't pass anymore as trans awareness activism made everyone

I'm not sure what would even be compared to troonism when it comes to having permanent and 'voluntary' body modifications that cause more harm than good in historical sense. I could think of foot-binding in China - but that was forced down. Perhaps you could compare it to religions that the priests castrated themselves like the followers of Cybele in Roman time. But instead of seeing it as a commitment to the Divine, our new god is our ego and a strive for discovering your 'true self'. A modern gnosticism. Maybe our future textbook might see it as an enforcement of gender norms in 20th-21st century that's justified with pseudoscience and the hubris of medical practitioners at the time just as we read about wacky Victorian era 'science'.
Unless interment camps start opening for people using improper pronouns I doubt most people will harbor genuine hate. Some who did get cancelled or were genuinely harassed might, but your average joe blow on the street could probably care less as long as it never really infringed on their own lives. For a lot of trannies their transition never even reaches the point of taking hormones, especially for the young FTM's. Even less end up getting any surgeries, so for a mtf who only used hormones as long as they can put the shame of presenting as a woman at one point behind them they can move on with their lives. FTM's who used hormones will be less fortunate in their circumstances of course, its hard to put facial hair and a deep voice behind you. Obviously anyone who had surgeries especially tit job's(either way on or off lmao) will find it hard to detransition, and will be obviously marked as a troon. Anyone who had the chop or sausage link sewn to their crotch will have uncomfortable realities to face personally, that for the most part won't affect how the public sees them. This all hinges on the current year being the inflection point, if it gets crazier who knows?

TBH I think for a lot of people it will be like seeing someone with cutting scars, we each have our own opinions about that type of behavior but most people keep it to themselves. It might stop relationships or friendships from forming, but no one discriminates against people with cutting scars. For a lot of young people I think trooning out is just a phase, and they'll be able to live it down and move on with their lives. Here's to hoping that this is peak troon mania.
 
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Yeah, I'm way prettier than those mean old TERFs are! *Applies useless filter on photo*

He also retweets lesbian hentai as well.
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Those are old comments that ticks me a lot, sorry to necro them - I wanted to reply a while back but I've been busy irl.

I know I'm almost too obsessed with this whole 'what would happen to troons in the future' deal that it might tires out others here. But it's probably the thing I'm worried the most about trans activism. I have had a few people in my life and I couldn't really stop them, all I could do is slowly distancing myself while they're becoming more and more insufferable to be around after they troon out... And even if I stopped from talking to my troon ex-friends, I still care about where would they be in the future? How would they cope if this thing falls apart?

Unlike any post-war counterculture, this troonacy thing is endorsed by the establishment and private sector. It can't be as easily ignored as a silly blunder teenage phases you go through... because being a troon requires institutions affirmation from medical procedures and recordkeeping built on tending tranny delusions, and legal procedures allowing you to change gender in your identifications. It's not something that can go away as if nothing happened because the one in charge has to get around rectifying it. The responsible would falls on doctors, lawyers, bureaucrats, organisations and everyone who's involved in this mess.

One possible scenario IF it happens to end. IMO, detrooners will get their 15 minute of fame at one point, to ask for pity, while pharma companies and surgeons will milk out the last drop of cash out of the ones who still want to chase the dragon, trying to hopelessly 'fix' their bodies. (That won't really fix anything anyway.) Then they'll fade out of public consciousness and become an embarrassing chapter in history.

But how would they be seen and treated by regular person? Would people who still remember the days of tyranny where you could get cancelled and even put in prison for questioning gender ideology now that many decided to launder themselves into another kind of 'sad victims' again? How would ex-troons even accept themselves knowing that they would live with the marks of transitioning because of a dumb decision they made as teenagers for the rest of their life. Especially at the time where you won't pass anymore as trans awareness activism made everyone

I'm not sure what would even be compared to troonism when it comes to having permanent and 'voluntary' body modifications that cause more harm than good in historical sense. I could think of foot-binding in China - but that was forced down. Perhaps you could compare it to religions that the priests castrated themselves like the followers of Cybele in Roman time. But instead of seeing it as a commitment to the Divine, our new god is our ego and a strive for discovering your 'true self'. A modern gnosticism. Maybe our future textbook might see it as an enforcement of gender norms in 20th-21st century that's justified with pseudoscience and the hubris of medical practitioners at the time just as we read about wacky Victorian era 'science'.

I feel as though circumcised men might cop that backlash too one day, even though it was rarely their choice.

Edited to add: I know two gay men in the 25-35 age who voluntarily got circumcised because they believed it gave them better chances of getting laid. All power to them I guess, but it just seems gross to me.
 
eBay will be banning the sale of adult materials as of June 15th. Prepare for a Twitter troon and anime profile chimpout.
It might be more than that. I can't imagine that they'll check if all unrated films actually contain sexual stuff, so really it would prohibit you from listing much more than only porn. All in all a bad move from eBay, even if it makes the right people mad.


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I feel as though circumcised men might cop that backlash too one day, even though it was rarely their choice.

I don't see how circumcised men would get any 'backlash' at all. Unless they complain*, in which case they open themselves wide for ridicule by everyone under the sun.
Maybe things will change with further secularization and different aesthetic attitudes, who knows. As you said, most don't make the choice for themselves and like with many medical procedures (e.g. some in this thread) there is little willingness to talk about how they can go wrong, so the topic doesn't really come up that much (at least in my experience).

(*Granted: Some of the most vocal that do are absolute loons.)
 
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Maybe things will change with further secularization and different aesthetic attitudes, who knows. As you said, most don't make the choice for themselves and like with many medical procedures (e.g. some in this thread) there is little willingness to talk about how they can go wrong, so the topic doesn't really come up that much (at least in my experience).
Don't mess with mother nature. It's left there for a reason. Same can be said for trans activists trying to put growing kids on hormone blockers.
 
In good news over on reddit, apparently all trans women accept genital preference and anyone saying otherwise is a straw-manning liar. Lesbians have no issues with trans women, and its all just fabricated terfy talking points. Phew.

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it's incredibly important to highlight that this kind of recent libfem language substitution is how the wider culture got here.

calling males who get surgery trans women, calling prostitution sex work, then saying they're women and regular work as if it's 1:1, a bygone conclusion. also notice how trans women, transphobes, TERFs, trans lesbians, and "genital preferences" are literally all newspeak that were rapidly adopted recently. without all the buzzwords, sentences in the conversation read like this:

"the man in that video states that lesbians who are disgusted by penises have every right to be, hell he is too!"

of course he hates it, he's straight, and he has a pathological obsession with cutting it off. that inspires confidence how?
also he has the brass balls as some random mentally ill male to think he can dictate how grown women approach sex, lol.
thank god he said it was okay! i was worried that lesbian women didn't need approval from a strange man for a minute there.

the last comment is the most dystopian. this person says some men have amholes so homosexuality is a moot point anyway, tells women that what they have seen with their own eyes "doesn't happen" (first step in DARVO, next is saying women who ask questions are evil), and then says "trans women accept GENITAL PREFERENCES", so completely reframing the conversation about homosexuality to make it seem like not just a choice, but an arbitrary, silly choice. trans ideology in a nutshell.

"trans lesbian", even with the quotes, is honestly a ludicrous name for these people, even if we're aware it's not true.
calling them lesbians even jokingly makes their cock tingle too, it's probably like calling a masochist a pathetic sissy.
they only deserve to be called men, AGPs, or males, they aren't even a "fake lesbian" like a bi woman pretending to be.
homosexuals have genital REQUIREMENTS. troons can say this fact doesn't chap their ass but it does, hence the newspeak.
 
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it's never about the fact that people just don't want to or have to put pronouns in bio and there's nothing wrong with that.
it's about those poor closeted trans people i guess. and now they need lots of money too. these are people expecting fealty.
now there's a woke reason why trannies won't put pronouns in their bio and i'll have a harder time knowing who's a troon.
not that much harder though... if i scroll down on any of their profiles they can't keep their victim complex mouths shut.
it's funny how their desire to feel oppressed actually supercedes the AGP of being seen as a "regular woman" sometimes.
 
This troon named himself after a Japanese film monster (he originally wanted to include Wobbegong as well).
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The Eurovision Song Contest is coming up. NikkieTutorials got added as the 4th show host, so there are quite a few publicity pictures going around now of all of them standing together and it's just baffling to see how huge he really is compared to other people, even after being on puberty blockers.
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Mind you, those two in the middle are about the average size for a Dutch woman and man.

Here's another one:
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His face is fucking creepy btw, it looks almost like some kind of rubber mask.
 
The Eurovision Song Contest is coming up. NikkieTutorials got added as the 4th show host, so there are quite a few publicity pictures going around now of all of them standing together and it's just baffling to see how huge he really is compared to other people, even after being on puberty blockers.
He could have been lying about the puberty blockers. As well, Dutch bitches are big ol' bitches, considering how Nicky makes them look like a short indigenous woman, I would say puberty blockers were a lie.
 
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