Creative works you enjoyed until politics happened - "How politics made me hate Welcome to Nightvale and other things"

[Flavius Claudius Julianus]

I listened to Megadeth's 'United Abominations' recently for the first time in like 12 years. Hadn't heard it since I was an edge lord metalhead in my teens.

The lyrics to many of the songs are slacktivist, SJW-like, and bleeding heart lefty in tone. I still jammed along, but man it felt different than it did back in the day.

I've noticed this with many metal bands recently.

 

[Alex Krycek]

I listened to Megadeth's 'United Abominations' recently for the first time in like 12 years. Hadn't heard it since I was an edge lord metalhead in my teens.

The lyrics to many of the songs are slacktivist, SJW-like, and bleeding heart lefty in tone. I still jammed along, but man it felt different than it did back in the day.

I've noticed this with many metal bands recently.

Did the same thing with The Clash recently. I still dig their tunes but fuck man not everything has to be about how much you hate Capitalism.

 

[Mola Ram]

I listened to Megadeth's 'United Abominations' recently for the first time in like 12 years. Hadn't heard it since I was an edge lord metalhead in my teens.

The lyrics to many of the songs are slacktivist, SJW-like, and bleeding heart lefty in tone. I still jammed along, but man it felt different than it did back in the day.

I've noticed this with many metal bands recently.

I saw Iron Maiden live in 2019 (before Burn Loot Murder conquered the world but well into the Woke Revolution) and I can't tell you how relieved I was that they didn't change any of the lyrics to "Run to the Hills" ("The only good injuns are tame"). Those guys never seemed to give a shit about politics, though.

 

[Terrifik]

 

[Alex Krycek]

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No joke, I was only watching it for Venture Bros. After MDE got cancelled and then they cancelled that too and decided I was done with them.

 

[The Bovinian Derivative]

I listened to Megadeth's 'United Abominations' recently for the first time in like 12 years. Hadn't heard it since I was an edge lord metalhead in my teens.

The lyrics to many of the songs are slacktivist, SJW-like, and bleeding heart lefty in tone. I still jammed along, but man it felt different than it did back in the day.

I've noticed this with many metal bands recently.

This is why you need to listen to Scandinavian melodic death/power metal. They sing about vikings and dragons and shit. And who can forget Alexi Laiho's RIP insights into the human condition with the chorus of his song In Your Face:
I don't give a flying fuck motherfucker / I don't give a flying fuck motherfucker / I don't give a flying / I don't give a flying / I don't give a flying fuck

But I'll unironically take the above mentioned stuff instead of some hamfisted social commentary. I know it's not fair but for some reason I could never take anyone seriously saying how much the world sucks (even though they are completely right) when they spent the last 30 years touring the world, living in a fuckhuge mansion, and being high/drunk.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

This is why you need to listen to Scandinavian melodic death/power metal.

If you are a hyper nerd, there is a Scandinavian Metal Band that has an Album about the events of the Silmarillion.

TFW Your Browsers Autocorrect knows Silmarillion..

 

[Mola Ram]

If you are a hyper nerd, there is a Scandinavian Metal Band that has an Album about the events of the Silmarillion.

TFW Your Browsers Autocorrect knows Silmarillion..

And it fucking rules.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

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Oh man, I'd be lying if I said this wasn't delicious. AS was a big part of growing up when it was Sealab, ATHF, Harvey Boardman, Home Movies and Lupin.

Not sure when the switch happened but they did the "we hate our audience" gimmick and it felt like they started to get really antagonistic towards the viewers. Then the "we are too cool for you" gimmick. Then it just started to just be filled with reruns of family guy and koth.

Last time I watched was during last Feb and it was just alot of BLM inspired shit. I think the only fun new show I've seen on there was Yolo and doubt that's getting more episodes.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

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The only worthwhile thing AS has going for it is Toonami, and that is soured by the fact that almost everything they show on Toonami is either stuff by Aniplex or stuff by Funimation, and everyone in the Anime community knows how pozzed Funimation is now and how woke they are. Doesn't help that their show lineup isn't the best and their hours are super late. And those "Stop Asian Hate" bumpers they did for a while were just cringy.

 

[Angel Dust]

If you are a hyper nerd, there is a Scandinavian Metal Band that has an Album about the events of the Silmarillion.

TFW Your Browsers Autocorrect knows Silmarillion..

They also have an album based around Stephen Kings The Dark Tower series.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

And those "Stop Asian Hate" bumpers they did for a while were just cringy.

Ewww did they really do that? Sounds terrible.

Did anyone see birdgirl? She was a fun character on birdman but the commercials for her show looked really bad.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Ewww did they really do that? Sounds terrible.

Yep. A bunch of really long bumpers virtue signaling about how beating up Asians was bad because "Asians totally made anime, dude!". They finally stopped doing that, but all of the Funimation shows still start with this stupid title card telling everyone how "Yeah, we are totally taking COVID serious guys! Everybody who works on the dubs observes social distancing and shit!"

First of all, nobody gives a shit Funimation. Second of all, people watch these shows to forget about COVID, not be constantly reminded of it. Toonami will show these pointless title cards, but not the full openings and/or endings. SMH.

 

[Regenbogen]

wolfenstein

I listened to Megadeth's 'United Abominations' recently for the first time in like 12 years. Hadn't heard it since I was an edge lord metalhead in my teens.

The lyrics to many of the songs are slacktivist, SJW-like, and bleeding heart lefty in tone. I still jammed along, but man it felt different than it did back in the day.

I've noticed this with many metal bands recently.

cant play gta san andreas without realizing how half the songs are niggers seething about the "white establishment" keeping them down

 

[soulgains]

Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but every piece of fiction is political. All writers have biases that unconsciously slip into their work, it's just that nowadays writers often intentionally interject their retarded beliefs into their work. Culture and cultural attitudes have also shifted significantly from the 2000s onward to the point trooned out and butch Lesbian Latina pedophile characters are normative. Some writers get off to the Right wing backlash but others are genuinely confused or frightened by it because these things are normal in their own echo chamber.

 

[Mexican_Wizard_711]

Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but every piece of fiction is political. All writers have biases that unconsciously slip into their work, it's just that nowadays writers often intentionally interject their retarded beliefs into their work. Culture and cultural attitudes have also shifted significantly from the 2000s onward to the point trooned out and butch Lesbian Latina pedophile characters are normative. Some writers get off to the Right wing backlash but others are genuinely confused or frightened by it because these things are normal in their own echo chamber.

I disagree. sure, some media have themes but not always politics.

 

[Corn Flakes]

Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but every piece of fiction is political. All writers have biases that unconsciously slip into their work, it's just that nowadays writers often intentionally interject their retarded beliefs into their work. Culture and cultural attitudes have also shifted significantly from the 2000s onward to the point trooned out and butch Lesbian Latina pedophile characters are normative. Some writers get off to the Right wing backlash but others are genuinely confused or frightened by it because these things are normal in their own echo chamber.

Every piece of fiction may be political in some way (even if it's just the author's politics bleeding through), but what we're talking about here is those situations where the authors' politics have made a creative work worse.

And it's not a matter of "politics always makes it worse" like some people like to claim. When they're incorporated into the work, they can make said work even better. Paul Verhoeven's lolcow status aside, Starship Troopers is an incredibly political movie (it's a huge satire of fascism, warmongering, and the futility and horrors of war) but it's done in such a way that it works. For me, at least. If you removed that political satire from it, it would become an objectively worse movie for it.

 

[WolfeTone]

lol, my life

 

[Atatata]

I'm following a couple of Youtubers now that while they're okay for now and I legitimately like some of their videos, I can see the writing on the wall. Pretty sure one of them is going to troon out at one point.

Seeing the slippery slope in real time is pretty interesting, there's a sense of morbid investment in it, like watching an arsonist start a fire.

 

[DoubleD]

Paul Verhoeven's lolcow status aside, Starship Troopers is an incredibly political movie (it's a huge satire of fascism, warmongering, and the futility and horrors of war) but it's done in such a way that it works. For me, at least. If you removed that political satire from it, it would become an objectively worse movie for it.

Maybe I’ve just been drinking the Sargon Kool-aid, but is "fascism" really an accurate description of the world in the Starshipt Troopers book/movie? Granted, I've still not read the book, but it seems the movie merely adopted a fascist Aesthetic™ for its propaganda videos and such, which is absent from the original book, and most viewers came to this conclusion based on that alone and something else about "WAR BAD".

The way I understand it is that while they may live a two-tiered system, it doesn't mean they treat the second class ("civilians") as subhuman. There's actually a lot of emphasis on muh freedoms, and in the parts of the book Sargon quotes, it says personal freedom greatly exceeds that of the present day – including for civilians. Military service and "citizenship" is just an optional thing that one can do to enter the ruling class, which the movie glosses over.

The writer of the movie famously hated the original book, and deliberately made its world look fascistic, which feels very late-2010s woke Hollywood. That being said though, the movie was also kinda dope in spite of it. But let's not pretend that Hollywood lefties have only been shoving their politics into places they don't belong for the last 5 years or so.

I'd argue there is still a difference, that difference being that when they did it back in 1997, we actually got a movie that was entertaining, regardless of whether you take its political message to heart. But in the last few years, entertainers have decided that they're no longer going to sweeten the pill for us, and that their left-wing politics (which they pretend are morals, which they pretend are wholesome) can be the entire selling point of a creative work.

Although having just typed that out, I've realised that we probably agree.