Clashes between Jews and Palestinians in Jerusalem. Israel now invading Gaza according to (Questionable) Reports - If your thoughts are "I don't like either" you don't need to fucking post because it's been said 100 times you fucking dullard

didnt russia lose one of those wars?
The 1st Chechen War was a stalemate, but to the advantage of the Chechens who basically fought the superior Russian forces to a draw and got concessions like increased autonomy.

However, the Chechen white austeres weren't happy with their relaxed, semi-autonomous state and wanted Round II, so they invaded Dagestan and declared that part of their little "Caucus Caliphate".

Well now Russia has new leadership (Re: Vladmir Vladimirovich Putin), and this time around they weren't going to fuck with capturing cities and playing nice with the Chechens.
So all the white derka-derkas flood into Grozny expecting a Round II: Urban Warfare Boogaloo (*of Peace), instead the Russians damn near level the city and engage in borderline wholesale slaughter.
After this, the Russians basically give the tribal Chechen warlords two options: 1) turn over the Imams & Caucus Mujihideen groups and submit to Russian rule or 2) Die with them because we aren't taking prisoners this time around. The majority of the Chechen warlords chose the former.
 
Imagine Americans ever telling you we're blowing up your shit exactly at whatever time tomorrow. Jews, ever the most courteous of races, do this. They STILL GET SHIT. How the fuck could they be more civilized? I am so sick of people talking shit about Jews.
Pretty sure Trump did exactly that when he made that missile strike in Syria.
 
FYI, this is a war crime because of the danger it places civilians in.
And it will be reported in many places as "Israel blew up a school and here are some children crying".
I can see it as being a war crime if it can be argued to fit under either "Wilfully causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or health "or "Extensive destruction and appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity and carried out unlawfully and wantonly," The problem here is that Hamas is really considered a state actor, but rather a non-state actor. Consequently, you can't expect international bodies to hold Hamas accountable since these mechanisms, the ICC, for example, have only been used to adjudicate state actors. Either way, the UN labels Hamas a terrorist organization because of its actions.
There isn't much precedent for courts like the ICC to prosecute non-state actors, but Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia did so under a theory of command responsibility

Typically, when the international community wants to hold a non-state actor accountable (oftentimes the non-state actor is a terrorist group) countries fund whatever state is fighting the armed group and sanction whatever countries are funding the armed group, that is, if the group is funded at all.

None of this is to say that Israel should be given unlimited money for purchasing arms. I hardly see that the US's military funding for Israel is a necessity at all.
 
not justified by military necessity
They were storing munitions(rockets) that they were in the process of firing at Israel, that makes it a valid target.
Also they are considered by the International Criminal Court as a party to the conventions, something they did in an attempt to get Israel charged with...You guessed it, War Crimes.
 
The water system, sewer system, and power grid are now completely destroyed in Gaza. Population over 2 million.
Where do you think these new refugee's will be sent?

Think Isreal will take responsibility for them? :story:
Bend over Europe and USA. More enrichment for you!
 
The water system, sewer system, and power grid are now completely destroyed in Gaza. Population over 2 million.
Where do you think these new refugee's will be sent?

Think Isreal will take responsibility for them? :story:
Bend over Europe and USA. More enrichment for you!
Nowhere. Israel will not allow them to leave. Neither will Egypt. They werent allowed to leave in 2014 when far more damage was done to Gaza, they wont be allowed to leave now.
 
They were storing munitions(rockets) that they were in the process of firing at Israel, that makes it a valid target.
Also they are considered by the International Criminal Court as a party to the conventions, something they did in an attempt to get Israel charged with...You guessed it, War Crimes.
I had no clue they were a party, I thought that only countries could become parties to the conventions.which convention is Hamas a party to? I would think they would be against doing that because it would mean they would also be held to a certain standard.

I know that the sites are valid targets under int'l law and that Israel has the weapons to do so, what I meant was that I don't think American military funds are a necessity to Israel
 
I had no clue they were a party, I thought that only countries could become parties to the conventions.which convention is Hamas a party to? I would think they would be against doing that because it would mean they would also be held to a certain standard.

I know that the sites are valid targets under int'l law and that Israel has the weapons to do so, what I meant was that I don't think American military funds are a necessity to Israel
As it turns out the court says you can become covered by the conventions by just sending an official letter placing yourself under said conventions.
Here's a link, it's from the frogs but I've been drinking vodka warm from the bottle and you're lucky I could even find it.
Now fucking praise me.
 
Kraut predicts that 'a few bad apples' among Arab protestors in European cities will lead to Europe rethinking its Middle Eastern immigration policy. Because while the European ruling class doesn't give a fuck about protecting its native population, importing anti-semitism harms your Jewish communities and is haram. Imagine Europe inadvertently saving itself only to protect the Jews. What a timeline that would be.
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Kraut predicts that 'a few bad apples' among Arab protestors in European cities will lead to Europe rethinking its Middle Eastern immigration policy. Because while the European ruling class doesn't give a fuck about protecting its native population, importing anti-semitism harms your Jewish communities and is haram. Imagine Europe inadvertently saving itself only to protect the Jews. What a timeline that would be.
Perfect timeline
 
Maybe if lean on little more -Joe Bidden

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Remember how "Biden has experience to get things done"? And now he has called four times in a day to try and get Israel to stop despite having absolutely no leverage?

Wondering if Biden is just sitting at his desk glaring at the phone because Netenyahu isn't giving him the respect he believes he deserves.

Kraut predicts that 'a few bad apples' among Arab protestors in European cities will lead to Europe rethinking its Middle Eastern immigration policy. Because while the European ruling class doesn't give a fuck about protecting its native population, importing anti-semitism harms your Jewish communities and is haram. Imagine Europe inadvertently saving itself only to protect the Jews. What a timeline that would be.
I was wondering what Britain and France were going to do after the Muslims started saying "Hitler was right."

"Hey, remember that war that your grandfather fought in to protect our country from a German mad man that wanted to put us in camps? Yeah. Turns out that was pointless because we imported a bunch of people who happen to agree with him. Haha! Life is funny like that."
 
Kraut predicts that 'a few bad apples' among Arab protestors in European cities will lead to Europe rethinking its Middle Eastern immigration policy. Because while the European ruling class doesn't give a fuck about protecting its native population, importing anti-semitism harms your Jewish communities and is haram. Imagine Europe inadvertently saving itself only to protect the Jews. What a timeline that would be.
What a retard.
 
Kraut predicts that 'a few bad apples' among Arab protestors in European cities will lead to Europe rethinking its Middle Eastern immigration policy. Because while the European ruling class doesn't give a fuck about protecting its native population, importing anti-semitism harms your Jewish communities and is haram. Imagine Europe inadvertently saving itself only to protect the Jews. What a timeline that would be.
wishful thinking lol
what will actually happen is that they'll have a lot of talks and a "public debate" about "rising antisemitism" and they will conclude that the biggest threat is the far right.
if any legislative or administrative action comes of it, it will be stricter hate speech laws and more funding for specialised anti extremist policework.
 
Am I unique in this thought? There is something so deeply fucking repellent to me in the concept of suicide bombing. I can't help but feel absolute contempt for a people who views it as an acceptable strategy to take their most dedicated people and just throw them away like that. If they despise themselves that much, why should I respect them? They're trash, they view themselves as trash, and they throw themselves away like trash.

Israelis will trade a single prisoner for 50 of the garbage people, because they're worth it.
 
Am I unique in this thought? There is something so deeply fucking repellent to me in the concept of suicide bombing. I can't help but feel absolute contempt for a people who views it as an acceptable strategy to take their most dedicated people and just throw them away like that. If they despise themselves that much, why should I respect them? They're trash, they view themselves as trash, and they throw themselves away like trash.

Israelis will trade a single prisoner for 50 of the garbage people, because they're worth it.
IDK, on one hand the suicide bombers normal lack of a kill count makes a lot of them just killing themselves for nothing.
On the other hand, you have them conning autistics, retards and children into it because they are militarily useless otherwise.
On the gripping hand, using people as delivery systems for untargeted munitions is a fucking perfect reason for genociding the lot of them.
TLDR: Agree.
 
Am I unique in this thought? There is something so deeply fucking repellent to me in the concept of suicide bombing. I can't help but feel absolute contempt for a people who views it as an acceptable strategy to take their most dedicated people and just throw them away like that.
look at it this way: if you just start shooting at enemy soldiers there, they'll respond by gunning you down. end result is you're dead and some of them are dead as well (if you managed to hit them)
that's not very different from the end result of a suicide bombing, which also involves you being dead and taking some of them with you
 
Am I unique in this thought? There is something so deeply fucking repellent to me in the concept of suicide bombing. I can't help but feel absolute contempt for a people who views it as an acceptable strategy to take their most dedicated people and just throw them away like that. If they despise themselves that much, why should I respect them? They're trash, they view themselves as trash, and they throw themselves away like trash.

Israelis will trade a single prisoner for 50 of the garbage people, because they're worth it.
No. Generally suicide bombing is a wasteful use of resources and the tactic of a desperate group. You attempt to get short term gains because you think that your victory is within reach. Unfortunately Palestinians goals are extremely long term and would not be helped by suicide bombing.

Basically Palestinians should have focused on building a culture, economic base and a civilization for themselves instead of being the equivalent of "angsty teenage edgelord" of geopolitics.
 
look at it this way: if you just start shooting at enemy soldiers there, they'll respond by gunning you down. end result is you're dead and some of them are dead as well (if you managed to hit them)
that's not very different from the end result of a suicide bombing, which also involves you being dead and taking some of them with you
The difference is the fundamental philosophy behind the act. Suicide bombing is disgusting and an act of pure evil, not just to the enemy, but to your own people. A society that requires military duty of its members has no such inherent evil to it. I almost think we should bring that back here. Look at the pure shittiness of our society at the moment.
 
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