Clashes between Jews and Palestinians in Jerusalem. Israel now invading Gaza according to (Questionable) Reports - If your thoughts are "I don't like either" you don't need to fucking post because it's been said 100 times you fucking dullard

[DeadFish]

Am I unique in this thought? There is something so deeply fucking repellent to me in the concept of suicide bombing. I can't help but feel absolute contempt for a people who views it as an acceptable strategy to take their most dedicated people and just throw them away like that. If they despise themselves that much, why should I respect them? They're trash, they view themselves as trash, and they throw themselves away like trash.

Israelis will trade a single prisoner for 50 of the garbage people, because they're worth it.

Depends on the attacker. Sometimes it a damned if they do and damned if they dont.

Thats assuming the attacker is a militant and not some rando blackmailed into it.

 

[DumbDude42]

The difference is the fundamental philosophy behind the act. Suicide bombing is disgusting and an act of pure evil, not just to the enemy, but to your own people. A society that requires military duty of its members has no such inherent evil to it. I almost think we should bring that back here. Look at the pure shittiness of our society at the moment.

desperate times call for desperate measures
warriors/soldiers willingly sacrificing their lives for the cause isn't anything new, it's a story as old as time. from antiquity (leonidas of sparta comes to mind) all the way into the modern age (japanese kamikaze pilots) and the present day (suicide bombing arabs) it's a recurring theme in times of war.
like, i remember reading some ww2 testimony where a german fighter pilot recounted that during an extended dogfight his wingman ran out of ammo and then the last thing he said on the radio was "out of bullets. gonna ram them now. see you in valhalla"
i'm sure theres tons more examples of this, can probably find something similar in almost every culture across the planet

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Am I unique in this thought? There is something so deeply fucking repellent to me in the concept of suicide bombing. I can't help but feel absolute contempt for a people who views it as an acceptable strategy to take their most dedicated people and just throw them away like that. If they despise themselves that much, why should I respect them? They're trash, they view themselves as trash, and they throw themselves away like trash.

Israelis will trade a single prisoner for 50 of the garbage people, because they're worth it.

Hamas/the Palestinians have largely abandoned suicide bombing since Israel built the security wall on the west bank and gaza. They're actually worse though because they use civilians as human shields and force them into danger in order to protect rockets.

 

[AnOminous]

warriors/soldiers willingly sacrificing their lives for the cause isn't anything new, it's a story as old as time. from antiquity (leonidas of sparta comes to mind) all the way into the modern age (japanese kamikaze pilots) and the present day (suicide bombing arabs) it's a recurring theme in times of war.

These are fundamentally different concepts and motivations. Sacrificing your life by, for instance, diving on a grenade to save your buddies, is a vastly different act than starting out with the concept of a suicide bombing. One is a desperate choice taken in the extremity of the moment, with no other option. The other is actually starting out with the intention of an utterly pointless suicide.

The acts are entirely morally different. One is good, the other is evil.

They're actually worse though because they use civilians as human shields and force them into danger in order to protect rockets.

They have never really renounced the concept itself. They just realized most normal humans view such tactics as so utterly vile that they are beneath contempt.

 

[Your Local Immigrant]

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Honey, whats wrong?
you’ve barely touched your poison play kit?

 

[DumbDude42]

One is a desperate choice taken in the extremity of the moment, with no other option.

in their eyes, that's exactly what they're facing.

the japs didn't order their pilots to suicide crash their planes into US ships because they thought it's based and redpilled to make your own men kill themselves for shits and giggles. no, they did it because they legitimately came to the conclusion that this is their only shot at possibly making a dent in US naval power with the few resources they had at the time.

likewise, a muslim suicide bomber does it because he knows that his side is outgunned to the extreme and that he has absolutely no chance to inflict serious damage on the enemy if he tries conventional ways of attacking them. but he knows that blowing himself up will definitely fuck their shit up, so he sees this as the most effective way to contribute to the war effort.

 

[AnOminous]

the japs didn't order their pilots to suicide crash their planes into US ships because they thought it's based and redpilled to make your own men kill themselves for shits and giggles. no, they did it because they legitimately came to the conclusion that this is their only shot at possibly making a dent in US naval power with the few resources they had at the time.

And it had no possible chance of success. It was an evil strategy, based on failure. And it did, indeed, absolutely fail. Congratulations, you got yourself nuked. Idiots.

 

[The High Prophet of Truth]

 

[LurkTrawl]

I almost agree completely with you, the only word that is missing is "Reformism". Reformist Judaism is a blight upon the world and nearly every shit spewing Jew nowadays is a part of this cult.

So... they're the ones pissing people off? Sounds like they're the jew's versions of niggers or white trash.

 

[The Last Boyscout]

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guess they realized that Israel is ultimately willing to accept dead kids and wrecked civvie buildings, if it means nuking every last Hamas rocket. I don't think the carnage will stop until their intelligence agencies tell them that is the case or near enough to it, at least. can't have Bibi score political points if there's more of them flying after this faux 'cease-fire'

 

[Still Anonymous For This]

in their eyes, that's exactly what they're facing.

the japs didn't order their pilots to suicide crash their planes into US ships because they thought it's based and redpilled to make your own men kill themselves for shits and giggles. no, they did it because they legitimately came to the conclusion that this is their only shot at possibly making a dent in US naval power with the few resources they had at the time.

likewise, a muslim suicide bomber does it because he knows that his side is outgunned to the extreme and that he has absolutely no chance to inflict serious damage on the enemy if he tries conventional ways of attacking them. but he knows that blowing himself up will definitely fuck their shit up, so he sees this as the most effective way to contribute to the war effort.

This is horse shit.

In both instances of suicide bombing, those actually doing the suicide are not the old and the experienced, but the young and the naive. It's the kid who can barely get his plane in the air, not the middle aged man with twenty kills under his belt. It is the impressionable and the young, lulled by sycophants unwilling to do it themselves, into everlasting glory if they ram their Zero into the side of a hospital ship or blow up a cafe of women and children. They have no concept about what is and is not effective in war. They're just following the orders of men they think are 'in charge' and know what's best for them and their families.

Fuck them.

 

[Mepsi Pax]

And it had no possible chance of success. It was an evil strategy, based on failure. And it did, indeed, absolutely fail. Congratulations, you got yourself nuked. Idiots.

I dunno, a single suicide bomber has more conviction, faith, and balls than anybody on this site (myself included). Really it's a kind of selfless act - you are giving up your own life to take life away from your mortal enemy.

I may not agree with their beliefs or think their tactics are great, but if they're willing to kill themselves for what they believe in, that's pretty fuckin' hardcore and it deserves respect - the kind of respect you give a dangerous enemy.

Most people are scared of getting fired from their job, they're uncomfortable missing a meal, but these motherfuckers aren't scared to blow themselves apart with high explosives in asymmetric warfare. Sadly, their tactics (mentioned above) are pretty bad and the bombings are mostly ineffective, but that's a separate issue from the fundamental concept itself.

 

[DumbDude42]

This is horse shit.

In both instances of suicide bombing, those actually doing the suicide are not the old and the experienced, but the young and the naive. It's the kid who can barely get his plane in the air, not the middle aged man with twenty kills under his belt. It is the impressionable and the young, lulled by sycophants unwilling to do it themselves, into everlasting glory if they ram their Zero into the side of a hospital ship or blow up a cafe of women and children. They have no concept about what is and is not effective in war. They're just following the orders of men they think are 'in charge' and know what's best for them and their families.

Fuck them.

that applies to literally all forms of war ever
from the roman infantrymen getting trampled by hannibals elephants or slaughtered by germanic tribesmen in some damp forest, to the ww1 soldier who gets mowed down by machine guns during a charge through no mans land, it's always the young conscripts and low rank enlisted men who die like flies, not the kings and generals

 

[AnOminous]

In both instances of suicide bombing, those actually doing the suicide are not the old and the experienced, but the young and the naive. It's the kid who can barely get his plane in the air, not the middle aged man with twenty kills under his belt.

The very concept is pure evil. This is not how you treat your people in a decent society, ever. Can you ever imagine Americans doing this? You can't, because we wouldn't. We would never do this. For every one of us who gets killed we'll kill 100 of the other motherfuckers. Our people are not disposable.

 

[Jack Awful]

you are giving up your own life to take life away from your mortal enemy.

They literally believe by doing it you'll go to super heaven where you fuck virgins forever, they're probably hyped.

 

[Not Really Here]

I dunno, a single suicide bomber has more conviction, faith, and balls than anybody on this site (myself included). Really it's a kind of selfless act - you are giving up your own life to take life away from your mortal enemy.

If you can't figure out how to kill the enemy without killing yourself you're a sped.

 

[DumbDude42]

If you can't figure out how to kill the enemy without killing yourself you're a sped.

easy to say "just get better at war lmao" when you're not involved
not so easy when you're a muslim dude who spent his whole life in poverty in a city that has been under blockade for decades, your enemy is a highly trained army of professional soldiers with cutting edge technology and top of the line supplies, while all you have when it comes to materiel is rusty old AKs and some homemade explosives made from fertilizer in some dudes basement
if they had the means to wage proper war by regular means, they would do that instead of blowing themselves up. but they don't, and they usually don't have much of a life or future prospects either.
like i said earlier: desperate times, desperate measures.

 

[LurkTrawl]

Kraut predicts that 'a few bad apples' among Arab protestors in European cities will lead to Europe rethinking its Middle Eastern immigration policy. Because while the European ruling class doesn't give a fuck about protecting its native population, importing anti-semitism harms your Jewish communities and is haram. Imagine Europe inadvertently saving itself only to protect the Jews. What a timeline that would be.

Spoiler: Kraut disgusted by anti-semitic protests in Vienna

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Dude if that's Kraut and Tea, he's the same dude who thought fish gave live birth because a faggot on Discord told him. His opinion on anything is shit.

 

[Not Really Here]

easy to say "just get better at war lmao" when you're not involved
not so easy when you're a muslim dude who spent his whole life in poverty in a city that has been under blockade for decades, your enemy is a highly trained army of professional soldiers with cutting edge technology and top of the line supplies, while all you have when it comes to materiel is rusty old AKs and some homemade explosives made from fertilizer in some dudes basement
if they had the means to wage proper war by regular means, they would do that instead of blowing themselves up. but they don't, and they usually don't have much of a life or future prospects either.
like i said earlier: desperate times, desperate measures.

It's as easy as throwing a satchel charge at an enemy location, or mining a location an enemy passes by on a regular basis.
"Poverty" with an obese population with cell phones.
K.

 

[murdered meat bag]

This is horse shit.

In both instances of suicide bombing, those actually doing the suicide are not the old and the experienced, but the young and the naive. It's the kid who can barely get his plane in the air, not the middle aged man with twenty kills under his belt. It is the impressionable and the young, lulled by sycophants unwilling to do it themselves, into everlasting glory if they ram their Zero into the side of a hospital ship or blow up a cafe of women and children. They have no concept about what is and is not effective in war. They're just following the orders of men they think are 'in charge' and know what's best for them and their families.

Fuck them.

imperial japan had kamikazi planes and banzai charges because their tactics sucked. what worked against chinese subhumans failed against the mighty us and ussr.

some smart japs realized the banzai was shit and the us got the battle of iwo jima out of it.