Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[TESTEFY-HD]

LIAM COULDN'T GO 1 DAY AWAY - Who won the bet?

Will have the recorded version asap

 

[YARGH!WORMS!]

Can anyone confirm this?
Not to be rude or anything, but a new account with only one message and no screenshot or anything;
Doesn't sound like the most reliable source and more like a shitpost.
Maybe @FROG can add to this.

i mostly lurk here, but almost came here to ask the same thing- did any one else see that buffoonery today?i thought I hallucinated it. Dude flipped his fucking lid staring at bisexual lighting for weeks on end. Was something to the effect of taking into account creators feelings and removing harmful posts if anyone or friends of artists that he targets notify him of hurtful intent or something, then he’s willing to remove his own offensive channel content. I’d made a quick flippant comment, went back 5 minutes later to add more clarification and found the edit wouldn’t take as the whole thing had been pruned. wish I’d screen grabbed it. I never saw the video this morning tho. Old Yeller‘s not right any more ....

 

[Captain Manning]

LIAM COULDN'T GO 1 DAY AWAY - Who won the bet?

Will have the recorded version asap

I said before next Saturday (<= 1 week), so I claim a win.

Although I will confess I thought the lying son of a bitch would at least make it 72 hours. What a little bitch.

EDIT:

He doxed his license plate.

 

[A nameless trool]

Can anyone confirm this?
Not to be rude or anything, but a new account with only one message and no screenshot or anything;
Doesn't sound like the most reliable source and more like a shitpost.
Maybe @FROG can add to this.

He had a video about Joe Glass yesterday that is no longer there.
Probably Joe Glass (or someone else) reached out to him and pointed to him

In yesterday's video YBZ started with a tweet of EVS telling SJWs to be more like Aubrey Sitterson with their careers.
Then retreads the same Joe Glass arguements he does the past 3 months, then comments on something Perch said about his 2017 approach not working, to which he says "I knew no better back then" and "if people had the opportunity to go back in time and do the same things the same way, they are lying".

There is a good chance someone pointed to him his hypocricy and he chose to take down some of his more incediary videos as a gesture of good will. Then got backlash by his followers.

 

[TESTEFY-HD]

LIAM GRAY TREEHOUSE UPDATE #10 - LIAM GETS A POINTER
- Why does he need a studio if he quit comics on 05-22-2021?

 

[FROG]

Can anyone confirm this?
Not to be rude or anything, but a new account with only one message and no screenshot or anything;
Doesn't sound like the most reliable source and more like a shitpost.
Maybe @FROG can add to this.

OK, I'll contribute.

Zack is experiencing another awakening, in which he is realizing that some of his enemies are legitimately mentally ill. Many on the edge of self-harm. As infuriating as all of them are, they wake up everyday hating themselves more than they could ever hate us, and our criticism of them might be punishing them more than their illnesses can handle, because most of us are approximately mentally sound. In comparison. And that would be punching down.

He doesn't want to be the catalyst for anyone to hurt themselves. What has seemed like incredible and obsessive cruelty to us is just the product of people who are teetering on the brink, and as the American comic book industry inevitably continues to evaporate, it'll get worse for them.

BTW, he didn't sell JAWBREAKERS to me. He's 100% running that show, I'm just publishing it. I'll probably add some editorial guidance here and there. Zack is just trying to escape being a part of the culture war.

 

[A nameless trool]

OK, I'll contribute.

Zack is experiencing another awakening, in which he is realizing that some of his enemies are legitimately mentally ill. Many on the edge of self-harm. As infuriating as all of them are, they wake up everyday hating themselves more than they could ever hate us, and our criticism of them might be punishing them more than their illnesses can handle, because most of us are approximately mentally sound. In comparison. And that would be punching down.

He doesn't want to be the catalyst for anyone to hurt themselves. What has seemed like incredible and obsessive cruelty to us is just the product of people who are teetering on the brink, and as the American comic book industry inevitably continues to evaporate, it'll get worse for them.

BTW, he didn't sell JAWBREAKERS to me. He's 100% running that show, I'm just publishing it. I'll probably add some editorial guidance here and there. Zack is just trying to escape being a part of the culture war.

Seems like Zack is still shocked by Miura's death and putting 1+1 together.

Yes, seeing it outside the US political rat race, it looks to me like this happened:
1) A part of leftist ideology (intersectionality, feminism) was presented to a general public in a way that attracted a lot of mentally ill people. This created the SJW.
2) A lot of mentally ill people are into geeky stuff, so you get a huge ammount of SJWs interested in geek media.
3) The SJW is not as opposed to big business as other types of leftists, so there is a reason for mainstream media and businesses to appease them.
4) SJW loonies find eachother on social media and signal boost eachother
4) Comic book sales deteriorate that talented, well adjusted people will leave them for better paying gigs (or creator owned work) meaning that loonies with a following will get jobs to sell to this huge wave of Social Media loonies too.

This way the SJW takeover of comics happened, when the lunatics took over the assylum. And the fact their comics come out so bad or bland is because their life is twitter.
YBZ for all his flaws as a writer had a full life and experience. Had he reigned himself in, he would be doing amazing sales right now and really needs an editor to keep him in check.
But those folks writing marvel comics, do they have a life? Donnie Cates had some life experience I guess and he is hailed like he is the saviour of comics.


@FROG you've been dealing with the conservative loonies on CG too, like Liam and War Campaign.
It is not the culture war that is destroying comics or art or media. It is a war of functional people versus a wave of obsessed lunatics that screech on social media.

 

[howmowden]

So you Frog and Zach are now accepting a duty of care towards the self-diagnosis, lie when its benefits your cause, give an inch take a mile set? That is a very stupid position to take. Cograts on strapping on a giant voluntary muzzle and announcing that you will self-censor against a metric of the whims of the Queer and Brown Brand. Its a muzzle that the people who pay for your work never wanted you to put on. But here you both now are. Subscribers and customers weren't ever drawn to you Ethan for the cringy do-wop music references and coverstock overleaf thickness wanking. It was because you didn't vaguebook every complaint you had but took things head on and explained to an outcast customer base exactly by who and why a generation lost its comfort and escape in comics.

Also stupid is burning you own time and attention on Jawbreakers when you don't have control over it and any work you do towards turning it into comicsgate's avengers is reduced to nothing if the crown prince of worthless distraction is able to deny you material and fritter away his very limited energy on self-amused one shots

 

[Pilule Noire]

Great news everyone!

Frog and Zack's (Frogzack's?) first JAWBREAKERS creative summit has taken place:

It went fairly well!

 

[FROG]

So you Frog and Zach are now accepting a duty of care towards the self-diagnosis, lie when its benefits your cause, give an inch take a mile set? That is a very stupid position to take. Cograts on strapping on a giant voluntary muzzle and announcing that you will self-censor against a metric of the whims of the Queer and Brown Brand. Its a muzzle that the people who pay for your work never wanted you to put on. But here you both now are. Subscribers and customers weren't ever drawn to you Ethan for the cringy do-wop music references and coverstock overleaf thickness wanking. It was because you didn't vaguebook every complaint you had but took things head on and explained to an outcast customer base exactly by who and why a generation lost its comfort and escape in comics.

Also stupid is burning you own time and attention on Jawbreakers when you don't have control over it and any work you do towards turning it into comicsgate's avengers is reduced to nothing if the crown prince of worthless distraction is able to deny you material and fritter away his very limited energy on self-amused one shots

You see me doing any of that where?

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

Can anyone confirm this?
Not to be rude or anything, but a new account with only one message and no screenshot or anything;
Doesn't sound like the most reliable source and more like a shitpost.
Maybe @FROG can add to this.

I saw the community post, it was a truly bizarre word salad. I mean, really strange. Some weird stream of consciousness shit about never posting another video where he might might potentially hurt somebody's feelings or something. A sentiment basically contrary to 90% of the videos he's ever done, as long as his channel has been around. (Can't comment on a video being taken down, though. That I missed.)

Normally I'd have screencapped it but I didn't in this case b/c I was flat on my back hallucinating pink elephants recovering from the 2nd vaccine shot (Moderna) all day yesterday, which I had gotten on Friday. Couldn't get off my ass to go from phone to laptop, sorry.

edit:

BTW, he didn't sell JAWBREAKERS to me. He's 100% running that show, I'm just publishing it. I'll probably add some editorial guidance here and there. Zack is just trying to escape being a part of the culture war.

Sure sounded to me like he's expecting you to find artists, editors, maybe even writers for the "side missions." Granted his video on the topic was borderline incoherent, but the impression I got was that Zach is going to write the script for each future Jawbreakers main series installment and then hand the whole thing off to you. Which I think is reasonable based upon what he said in the video.

 

[Captain Manning]

So, there's some really gay shit with Finatra that's been going for the past 48 hours. Crazy ass motherfucker did a ELEVEN HOUR livestream the other night. Right now he's been going for five, and counting. It is hypothesized that this is being done with the aid of massive quantities of coffee, energy drinks, CRACK.

"Something something something, Jazzcrab doxed me. Something something something, @VIkkiVerse supports doxing."

It's a bit VERY autistic, and more than a little bit unhinged, but I am pretty sure @VIkkiVerse will break it down with Dean on her their show tonight (EVERYBODY TUNE IN! HERE'S THE LINK!). I don't want to steal her thunder.

I'm just gonna leave this video here because it's pretty funny, and I'm pretty sure it won't spoil anything she'll be doing.

YOU MUST ATONE FOR YOUR SINS @TESTEFY-HD!!!

 

[9th legion centurion 002]

Zack is experiencing another awakening, in which he is realizing that some of his enemies are legitimately mentally ill. Many on the edge of self-harm. As infuriating as all of them are, they wake up everyday hating themselves more than they could ever hate us, and our criticism of them might be punishing them more than their illnesses can handle, because most of us are approximately mentally sound. In comparison. And that would be punching down.

He doesn't want to be the catalyst for anyone to hurt themselves. What has seemed like incredible and obsessive cruelty to us is just the product of people who are teetering on the brink, and as the American comic book industry inevitably continues to evaporate, it'll get worse for them

Ya Boi is now going to self censor himself so he doesn't hurt the fee fees of a bunch of malcontent danger hairs and male feminists? You've got to be fucking kidding me... The guy is an even bigger dick-less cuckold than I thought he was. He's going to become a liability before it's all said and done.

 

[howmowden]

Where do I see your endorsement of a close business partner's terrible decisions? Why right up above. If Zach/k isn't becoming toxic to your brand now and over the coming weeks I don't see how you can bind yours onto his without buying the sellable parts and letting him go back to IT security and early morning sour cream demands.

The lawsuit flop was the first cracks but you got away having just paid lip service to disappointment. Now comes the meaty choice of cutting bait on Sensitive Up Puncher Zachary.

 

[Miniluv]

Maybe Zack should just leave comics alone, take his ball and go home. He's obviously no longer got the stomach to finish any of the fights he once took up and his audience seems to be shrinking due to his poor decision making and stubborn unwillingness to take advice from experienced people with his best interests in mind.

The comics industry is infested with mentally ill people predisposed to taking severe umbrage at nearly everything under the sun, including the very existence of Richard C. Meyer. There is absolutely no way he can honestly review a mainstream comic without potentially sending one of those people into some kind of fit, no matter how he sugar coats it. He's already toned down his rhetoric and name calling. He's off social media. He doesn't treat these weirdos with half the hate and vitriol they exhibit towards him. They will still wish him dead after he lays down his arms.

If he can't review comics that may potentially suck and do it honestly, what else does he have? Good luck selling 499 Book 2 on a channel that's been abandoned by people that used to watch snarky comic reviews by an adult autist with a fetish for breakfast burritos and rawdogging women of color.

 

[9th legion centurion 002]

It's probably too late to talk him down from doing the Bin Laden in Vegas comic, but maybe future abominations can be averted with proper guidance.

 

[jspit2.0]

So you Frog and Zach are now accepting a duty of care towards the self-diagnosis, lie when its benefits your cause, give an inch take a mile set? That is a very stupid position to take. Cograts on strapping on a giant voluntary muzzle and announcing that you will self-censor against a metric of the whims of the Queer and Brown Brand. Its a muzzle that the people who pay for your work never wanted you to put on. But here you both now are. Subscribers and customers weren't ever drawn to you Ethan for the cringy do-wop music references and coverstock overleaf thickness wanking. It was because you didn't vaguebook every complaint you had but took things head on and explained to an outcast customer base exactly by who and why a generation lost its comfort and escape in comics.

Also stupid is burning you own time and attention on Jawbreakers when you don't have control over it and any work you do towards turning it into comicsgate's avengers is reduced to nothing if the crown prince of worthless distraction is able to deny you material and fritter away his very limited energy on self-amused one shots

I don't want to say I called it, but I fucking called it.

OK, I'll contribute.

Zack is experiencing another awakening, in which he is realizing that some of his enemies are legitimately mentally ill. Many on the edge of self-harm. As infuriating as all of them are, they wake up everyday hating themselves more than they could ever hate us, and our criticism of them might be punishing them more than their illnesses can handle, because most of us are approximately mentally sound. In comparison. And that would be punching down.

He doesn't want to be the catalyst for anyone to hurt themselves. What has seemed like incredible and obsessive cruelty to us is just the product of people who are teetering on the brink, and as the American comic book industry inevitably continues to evaporate, it'll get worse for them.

BTW, he didn't sell JAWBREAKERS to me. He's 100% running that show, I'm just publishing it. I'll probably add some editorial guidance here and there. Zack is just trying to escape being a part of the culture war.

Thanks for the info.

Can I just suggest this. If Richard feels wants out of the culture war, aligning with AllCap comics probably isn't the best place for him? You are a cultural war lightning rod. This move is counter intuitive then for him if his goal is to become more Perch and less you?

Ya Boi is now going to self censor himself so he doesn't hurt the fee fees of a bunch of malcontent danger hairs and male feminists? You've got to be fucking kidding me... The guy is an even bigger dick-less cuckold than I thought he was. He's going to become a liability before it's all said and done.

Well, that right there is part of the problem. I've written about the psychology of Ya Boi for over a year.

Without name calling or anything else, I'll say the same thing the Boss says to Julius Little in SR2. Throw off your flags and walk.

 

[X Pac Heat]

Yeah, I really don't see where the hell his channel goes from here. And with how everything has gone over the past year, I don't know if his IPs can survive without an internet presence.

I honestly can't see how EVS pre recorded talks with Ya Boi are going to go if he's scared of hurting fee fees as well.

It might be for the best if Zack just full on stops right now. Better to burn out than fade away and all that.

 

[howmowden]

This move is counter intuitive then for him if his goal is to become more Perch and less you?

Imagine a world that can hold all the ten minute and one second banal tautologies of two perches making oceans of mundane edgeless content every time they go for a drive.

No, Zach after yesterdays collapse knows his comic grift is taking a hard wane and wants to be one of those "seize the day, look at me I retired at 33 years old" aspirational types that teaches a bigger audience of disaffected 20 and 30 year old young men that comics can any longer provide how to unlock powerful things within themselves by Just Going For It and Taking The Right Supplements and Be Your Own Boss and hey wouldn't you know it also by Subscribing To My Patreon To Learn Exactly How To Do Those Things I Told You To Do.

Making an empty one sided peace gesture with people that mostly got let go at DC isn't anything but running away because he wants to shed his failures at making comics while at the same time keeping his success at taking comics money from lost and unfulfilled people

 

[Adamska]

Yeah, they're crazy and probably want to kill themselves, but they want to take others with them. They won't stop and this bitchout is EXACTLY what they want; they want you dead and your mixed race children in the pod eating bugs Richard.

And he seems deadset on just going full delusional faggot auteur despite that being career suicide comics wise for him. Even if I was still enthusiastic over this stupid movement I'd have gotten a refund given his sheer contempt of the audience he built.

Hope he enjoys those mentally ill fuckers not stopping with trying to abuse him and his children and his former squeezes and his job.