Brianna Wu / John Flynt - Original Thread

[AnOminous]

Jesus. Four times the safe level of cadmium?!

How the fuck does it even end up with cadmium in it?

 

[Cynical]

If Brianna is really in the hospital due to being poisoned due to toxic material in Solyent, my prayers go out to Brianna and Frank for a speedy recovery (I don't care who disagrees here, I have no desire to watch either suffer injury or death).

 

[Cynical]

In different yet related news, Maddy Myers (one of Wu's loyal lieutenants) just released a Twine game (same engine used by Zoe Quinn for Depression Quest), and GethN7 sent Myers an email complimenting her on it:

http://gethn7.blogspot.com/2015/08/an-email-i-wrote-to-maddy-myers-writer.html

The email is reproduced on his blog.

 

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If Brianna is really in the hospital due to being poisoned due to toxic material in Solyent, my prayers go out to Brianna and Frank for a speedy recovery (I don't care who disagrees here, I have no desire to watch either suffer injury or death).

I think we should tell the more GG-based members of the Kiwi Farms to pull together their resources and get her a nice, pre-emptive "Get Well Soon / We Miss You" card, buy her some Oreos and dog treats for Frank the dog.

I even wrote a nice poem:

Roses are Red
So are you hands, Mrs. Wu.
Get better from the lead poisoning
There's a Revolution 60 to do.

Pacing is a little off... we'll call it a rough draft.

 

[Jaimas]

Remember that Law and Order episode? The one where he thought it's about him and how he's afraid for his life now?

The Intimidation Game Episode.

How the fuck does it even end up with cadmium in it?

Jesus. Four times the safe level of cadmium?!

Because there's no oversight for the production process, so the makers of Soylent went with the most cut-rate zero-effort shit they could.

The lead and cadmium tainting comes from a by-product of the manufacturing process; dust and shit in trace amounts coming from the equipment or getting on the materials in dust form during harvesting. Soylent is predominantly made with soy and rice starches, both of which are cheap as shit if they come from China.

 

[CH3CH2OH]

If Brianna is really in the hospital due to being poisoned due to toxic material in Solyent, my prayers go out to Brianna and Frank for a speedy recovery (I don't care who disagrees here, I have no desire to watch either suffer injury or death).

Unfortunately there is no real recovery from exposure to heavy metals. The best you could hope for is as little initial exposure as possible.
Otherwise, it looks like liver, kidney, and bone damage is what's in store for this cow.

 

[Sanae Kochiya]

If Brianna is really in the hospital due to being poisoned due to toxic material in Solyent, my prayers go out to Brianna and Frank for a speedy recovery (I don't care who disagrees here, I have no desire to watch either suffer injury or death).

No one here really wants to see a cow die in any manner (unless it's Nick Bate or mrz, but they're pedos so...).

However, while my deepest sympathies are to Wu if she's actually recovering from lead poisoning... I will not pass up the opportunity to point out the fucking irony in having her bullshit faux-elitism come back to threaten her in such a manner.

 

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No one here really wants to see a cow die in any manner (unless it's Nick Bate or mrz, but they're pedos so...).

However, while my deepest sympathies are to Wu if she's actually recovering from lead poisoning... I will not pass up the opportunity to point out the fucking irony in having her bullshit faux-elitism come back to threaten her in such a manner.

I was thinking the same thing, TBH. Person spends gobs of money on pointless shit like Apple products, a Japanese motorcycle so she can become even closer to her Mary Sue characters, and hundreds of dollars on vidya she obviously doesn't play, and yet might be recovering from lead poisoning from chugging down lower common denominator foodstuffs.

Worrying about outside appearances without caring about the internal.... there's a parable in there somewhere.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

How the fuck does it even end up with cadmium in it?

Keep in mind that it was devised by some Silicon Valley twit that's probably never taken any biology classes in his life, let alone nutrition, or ecology for why not being careful with food processing can have terrible repricussions.

 

[AnOminous]

Keep in mind that it was devised by some Silicon Valley twit that's probably never taken any biology classes in his life, let alone nutrition, or ecology for why not being careful with food processing can have terrible repricussions.

Well, not to get too far afield, but at least some think that this is an abuse of California's Prop 65 that has, according to some (weasel words I know), turned into a litigation extortion racket. I'm not sure what I think of that, but if testing shows extreme levels of lead and cadmium, as claimed, I'm not sure that it really matters whether Prop 65 is a good idea or is sometimes abused.

 

[Kosher Dill]

However, Carol Brophy, an attorney at Sedgwick LLP, who has helped defend clients against scores of Prop 65 lawsuits, said the As You Sow press release re. Soylent was “alarmist” and misleading, given that its figures appeared to be based on the assumption that people eat “nothing but Soylent every day, 365 days a year, forever”

Yeah, who would ever do that?

 

[CH3CH2OH]

Well, not to get too far afield, but at least some think that this is an abuse of California's Prop 65 that has, according to some (weasel words I know), turned into a litigation extortion racket. I'm not sure what I think of that, but if testing shows extreme levels of lead and cadmium, as claimed, I'm not sure that it really matters whether Prop 65 is a good idea or is sometimes abused.

So I read up on the Prop 65 deal and I found this:



NOEL: No Observable Effect Level
MADL: Maximum Allowable Dose Level

This means that even levels 4 times the MADL are not going to cause organ failure or much damage at all, really. The requirements for the levels of potentially harmful materials are just very conservative.

Here's the link to the source http://www.oehha.ca.gov/prop65/law/pdf_zip/cadmium MADL.pdf

 

[AnOminous]

This means that even levels 4 times the MADL are not going to cause organ failure or much damage at all, really. The requirements for the levels of potentially harmful materials are just very conservative.

With food that contains heavy metals (like mercury and cadmium and lead), though, you're supposed to limit your exposure to them. For instance, tuna has mercury in it, so you're not supposed to eat it for every meal. Foods particularly high in mercury, like predator fish, e.g., swordfish, you aren't supposed to have often at all.

Exposure is additive, not over a brief period.

But Soylent is marketed to be used as a near total replacement for food. That is, the manufacturer encourages people to eat it most of the time.

I'm just saying this doesn't sound frivolous, and while you're not going to keel over and die instantly if something is over a daily limit, there's a reason those limits are what they are. If you're breaking the law, you're breaking the law, whether or not greedy lawyers are arguably making too much money out of the situation.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

So I read up on the Prop 65 deal and I found this:

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NOEL: No Observable Effect Level
MADL: Maximum Allowable Dose Level

This means that even levels 4 times the MADL are not going to cause organ failure or much damage at all, really. The
requirements for the levels of potentially harmful materials are just very conservative.

Here's the link to the source
http://www.oehha.ca.gov/prop65/law/pdf_zip/cadmium MADL.pdf

Untill you're dealing with who's already ill or immunocompromzed, at which point they could set something off.

 

[Kosher Dill]

This means that even levels 4 times the MADL

For cadmium, yeah, but they were also claiming up to 25x the MADL for lead.
Either way, let's hope Brianna is actually taking this time to get checked out by a doctor, and restock her kitchen with, you know, food.

 

[vertexwindi]

Considering all of the well-wishing over the last few pages, the chance of Wu ever mentioning us by name is lower than ever before.

Either way, I wouldn't wish poisoning on anyone. Hope she learns something from this.

 

[Florence]

Placing bets on how long it'll take for Wu to somehow connect soylent and Gamergate. Odds currently stand at 1/1.

 

[zedkissed60]

Let me write John's return tweet.

GamerGate anniversary blah blah death threat harassment blah blah endured great suffering blah blah haters obsessed about me while gone doing great adventures blah blah. ​

He'll also give himself a new "cool" Twitter name.

 

[Kosher Dill]

Placing bets on how long it'll take for Wu to somehow connect soylent and Gamergate. Odds currently stand at 1/1.

Lead is revealed as the true leader of Gamergate:

 

[Hodor]

Jesus, hope she's alright.