Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Any claim can be made. Any.

But evidence is required - not gut feeling - for it to hold up an an accusation that can be backed. And again, we have to be careful to categorize a "lab leak" as meaning intentionally leaked or by accident; they are entirely different things.

Even suspicious behavior can be misinterpreted and does not constitute evidence.

If there is any evidence to support it, we will find out about it. I've gone down every rabbit hole I can find on it and nothing has been the smoking gun. Perhaps it will come.

I suspect it is possible the virus originated in Wuhan after transportation to Wuhan - either a lab or other location within Wuhan - as a non particularly dangerous virus and commended mutations which then made it visible and suspect it was in circulation many months before ever being known about.

Intentional release by a government is almost a zero probability, and release by an individual intentionally not near zero, but possible.

Leak from a lab - sure, that could have happened without any ill-intent but data on the activities from the Lab suggest if it was leaked it would likely happened many months earlier than anyone there ever knew.
There are some anomalies regarding the Wuhan Institute of Virology during 2019 that should absolutely be looked into.

In September 2019, their online database of viruses went offline, Changes were made to the description of the database on December 30th 2019, the day the outbreak was made public.

An anonymous report shows decreased traffic and cell phone usage in the vicinity of the WIV in October 2019.

US intelligence report, the one released just days before Biden took office, claimed that WIV researchers fell ill in "autumn of 2019". Just recently it was disclosed that 3 researchers sought hospitalization in November 2019.

The Daily Mail, I know, but this claims that the wife of a researcher fell ill on November 14th 2019 and died later that month, as well as someone who became ill in September and later died.

This suggests a lab leak possibly in August or September of 2019 that was not addressed at the WIV until October, and the virus was circulating in the area until it started to spread in the general population in November, and experienced exponential growth in late November-early December with the notorious wet market being the first "superspreader" event. This could explain both the fact that many of the earliest confirmed cases were not connected to the wet market, and that the virus had already mutated enough to spread easily in humans as the genomic sequences of the earliest cases show a similar affinity to human cells as SARS-CoV-1 had in 2003, after it had already been spreading unchecked for months. I think that may be why some people latched onto the whole bioweapon angle early on because it seemed like it was primed to infect humans from the get-go, but it might have been just circulating long enough to adapt better to humans, if any of the strange goings-on at the WIV are anything to go by.

It could also explain this sudden about-face from the scientific community about the lab leak hypothesis being a possibility. Some people who definitely are familiar with the WIV, gain-of-function research, coronaviruses and Shi Zhengli (batwoman) are the ones subtly showing their support of looking into this--Fauci, Ralph Baric, Ian Lipkin, et al--which could either be them trying to downplay their involvement with the CCP or them getting the details of what actually was going on at the WIV and the Wuhan CDC--which, compared to the WIV, is a stone's throw away from the wet market that they tried desperately to pin the virus on.

There's more circumstantial stuff that suggests the WIV royally fucked up and tried to save their asses in the last few months of 2019 just like all the scientists and hospitals did back in the OG SARS outbreak so they wouldn't receive the ire of the Party. One thing to remember is that a lab leak doesn't necessarily have to be nefarious which often puts it into tinfoil hat territory--some retard could have dropped a vial or could have been bitten by an infected animal and didn't say anything about it until it was too late. And because we know the #1 rule is to save face, they would never admit to a mistake without trying their damnedest to fix it or cover it up before they get sent to the reeducation camp.
 
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No idea. Don't fall for the hype of crypto, get financial advice of what to do in case of hyper-inflation or deflation and talk to people who are vastly, VASTLY more clued up on economics than i am. I could be wrong!

OT: I've never known anyone to be ill from a vaccination. I used to travel a lot with work, so yearly vaccinations was a thing. The only meds that sent anyone doo-lally was anti-malaria meds.
The crypto guy is nuts. It doesn’t follow normal economics rules, so following normal crash causes is irrelevant.

And yes, I used to travel a lot too and you’re right about the malaria thing. That’s the only set that caused an issue but fortunately I didn’t travel to Africa much. Mostly Europe and the US so it was fine, but the African continent shot cocktail was lol, especially since I generally flew to the NE US to get it.
 
Greetings from Pozzedistan. For once, I come bearing good news!

A business I frequent removed the "Mask Required" sign from their door and no longer makes you wear a mask "so long as you are vaccinated." They didn't ask me for proof of vaccination. Even the employees weren't wearing masks! I don't know how long ago they started doing this because I haven't been there in a few days, but I was so happy I bought more stuff from them than usual.

Granted, last time I sung praises about a business that didn't enforce restrictions, they got a visit from the gestapo and had to start cracking down hard. I think, at some point in the future, I will be asked for proof of vaccination. But just being able to go into a store and buy things without a mask, dealing with cashiers who also weren't wearing masks-- I don't know how long it'll last, but just being able to do it once made me so happy.
 
The latest bullshit from the county I live in.

BREAKING NEWS FROM THE CARMEL PINE CONE

May 25, 2021, 3:45 p.m.

STATE FILLS IN DETAILS OF JUNE 15 REOPENING AS PANDEMIC FADES

With coronavirus cases continuing to decline rapidly and vaccination rates increasing — not only in Monterey County, but throughout California — state officials have filled in many of the details of the June 15 reopening that was announced by Gov. Gavin Newsom in April. (Fuck Newsom. Recall that sack of shit. - JS)

According to Dr. Mark Ghaly, the state's top health officer, the new rules, which take effect three weeks from today, not only mean the end of most facemask rules for people who've been vaccinated, they will allow businesses to reopen at full capacity and with no requirements for social distancing. Only mega events, such as stadiums and concert halls, will still be subject to stricter guidelines. (Off comes my mask, too. If asked about vaccination, plan to tell them that's HIPAA protected, - JS)

Meanwhile, Monterey County could also move into the Yellow Tier under current Covid guidelines as early as June 2, based on the tier score of 1.9 the county was awarded today.

The development comes as cases in Monterey County have declined to new lows, with many communities experiencing zero or very few new cases. The entire county had only 35 new cases this week, according to the latest numbers from the county health department. (Please see our "Cases by Zip Code" table below for the latest data affecting your neighborhood.)

Vaccination rates, while they have slowed, are still at impressive levels, with more than 60 percent of county residents having received at least one dose. Statewide, more than 36.5 million doses have been administered.

Not only does the coronavirus epidemic seem to be nearing its end, you can help make it happen by getting vaccinated, which is not only free, it's easy. To register, go to myturn.gov. (I'll pass. - JS)
 
The Gatekeepers of Information decided to say that masks were not needed because they were scared there would be a shortage for healthcare workers.

The Gatekeepers of Information decided that catering to Chinamen mianzi would be more geopolitically wise than telling the truth about the origins.

The Gatekeepers of Information decided to keep dunking on Trump even after he was a big ole loser instead of doing the right thing.

The Gatekeepers of Information machinations plus the tinfoil hattery of Trumpers created a perfect storm.
 
I’m so happy to see even popular media and blue states dumping all the bullshit as I was starting to wonder if maybe it was me that was insane for questioning the lockdowns. I wasn’t worried, I’m middle aged and not a pro athlete but also not fat, I’m just a guy.

At some point though, I was wondering... am I wrong to think this is just another SARS or whatever that thing was with mouse shit in New Mexico in the 90s (started with an N?)

This is getting close to blog or e/n bullshit so I’ll close but I’m extremely pleased that the narrative is all falling apart.
 
I’m so happy to see even popular media and blue states dumping all the bullshit as I was starting to wonder if maybe it was me that was insane for questioning the lockdowns. I wasn’t worried, I’m middle aged and not a pro athlete but also not fat, I’m just a guy.

At some point though, I was wondering... am I wrong to think this is just another SARS or whatever that thing was with mouse shit in New Mexico in the 90s (started with an N?)

This is getting close to blog or e/n bullshit so I’ll close but I’m extremely pleased that the narrative is all falling apart.
Hantavirus? That shit is nasty but doesn't spread well from human to human, however it killed like half of the people infected in that outbreak in the 90s, and it pops up a little too often in rodents to not worry about. Don't breathe near rat shit, folks.

SARS-CoV-1 was pretty fucking intense when you read about it. It was a lot of fearmongering back then outside of Asia and Canada but they were pretty fucked, especially considering China covered it up and outright lied about it (to the WHO no less!) for like 4 months. It liked younger people a lot more than COVID. "China Syndrome" is a really, really good book about it, the guy who wrote it was in China at the time and got a lot of interviews from doctors, scientists and survivors. He tells the story chronologically and it's riveting seeing it unfold.
 
First the corrupt elite turn on Bill Gates, now there's the about face on the bat soup thing.

Like others said, they're definitely up to something.

I hope it leads to their downfall.
The about face on coronavirus is probably so they can get back to "normal." Having millions of people sitting idle is really screwing them up.
From his media profile you'd think Gates was at the tippy top of globohomo. He's worth over a 100 billion. He owns and runs a massive globalist NGO. He's been a big advocate for lockdowns and vaccinations. Nonetheless his reputation has been destroyed in less than a week because......reasons? I have no clue wtf is going on behind the scenes but something is for sure happening. Oligarchs like Gates don't ever get cancelled unless someone higher on the food chain wants it that way.
Gates is a true believer in the climate change, contrary to the rest who pay lip service. Gates probably keeps disappointingly tsk tsk-ing every billionaire with a private plane. So he got shoved off the monolith to preserve their lifestyle.
 
The about face on coronavirus is probably so they can get back to "normal." Having millions of people sitting idle is really screwing them up.

Gates is a true believer in the climate change, contrary to the rest who pay lip service. Gates probably keeps disappointingly tsk tsk-ing every billionaire with a private plane. So he got shoved off the monolith to preserve their lifestyle.

Good lord you're paranoid.


His wife finally got tired of his shit and left him because he's a sex pest. Once that was going to happen it would be in the public record.

You think the media is malicious, when really they're just lazy.
 
Get that shit outta here. Hanlon's Razor is the cop-out for the corrupt.
All of the above and more.

Most MSM are mainly interested in making money (that support their narrative) and are happy to spread gossip, than actually finding/reporting verifiable news.

There are plenty of PR firms leaking that sort of gossip to Social media/MSM

Gates has probably signed a blank cheque to one, to provide damage control.
 
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