Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[FEETLOAF]

mechanization of labor, removal of the voting system in the US, and replacement of money-based capitalism.

All of the above are part of the same process.

Dunno where the covid vaccine fits in there exactly.

Depopulation and genetic management.

Unless you’re on some noble quest for the future generations of the planet?

Yeah it's called caring about your people.

 

[Devyn]

Depopulation also means less people to buy stuff. You're seriously retarded

http://web.archive.org/web/20210212214609/https://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-WHB-1322

They're pretty open about their desire to lower the global population (and at the very least stagnate it's growth), it's just a question of how it might be done.

 

[Tortoise Soup]

All of the above are part of the same process.

Depopulation and genetic management.

Yeah it's called caring about your people.

Again, consider who you are and where you are. A middle class white boy living in a rich country is THE LEAST at risk. They’re not going to make a vaccine to harm the most important members of society.

Mechanization of labor, lack of democratic processes, crippled economies. Ever wonder why it’s only happening to poor people and poor countries? Are you on a noble quest for the shithole countries?

 

[FEETLOAF]

They’re not going to make a vaccine to harm the most important members of society.

They think they are the *only* important members of society.

Are you on a noble quest for the shithole countries?

They want nothing but shithole favelas underneath their castles.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

How exactly is simply repeating what the authorities have unambiguously stated 'publicly advertising that he's a stupid lunatic in a trailer park'?

I'm genuinely worried that I have missed some four-dimensional ironic chess game going on here, because all I see over and over is @EyelessMC producing completely rational arguments backed up by easily verifiable data that can be readily traced back to expert testimony, followed by people going 'no its wrong trust me i know a doctor'.

What? The very study he linked said literally the exact opposite of what he claimed.

 

[Tortoise Soup]

They think they are the *only* important members of society’s.

They want nothing but shithole favelas underneath their castles.

Lol, you seriously underestimate your value in the world order. Your overlords need a middle class. It’s all there, written all over history.

If you’re a broke ass white boy then I understand the anger and paranoia about a vaccine that will wipe you out. The problem is everyone is getting it, regardless of economic status. Depopulation and genetic management is only targeted toward the poor. I would think this was obvious.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

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http://web.archive.org/web/20210212214609/https://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-WHB-1322

They're pretty open about their desire to lower the global population (and at the very least stagnate it's growth), it's just a question of how it might be done.

Yea, except they were talking about lowering population growth by access to education and birth control, not kill people

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

Yea, except they were talking about lowering population growth by access to education and birth control, not kill people

Bill Gates already confirmed he's sterilizing the population by having phones emit radiation because most people keep phones in their pockets, near their genitals. It's a devilishly brilliant plan

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Bill Gates already confirmed he's sterilizing the population by having phones emit radiation because most people keep phones in their pockets, near their genitals. It's a devilishly brilliant plan

He's also tracking everyone on earth through their cell phones. He's a genius

 

[Tortoise Soup]

Yea, except they were talking about lowering population growth by access to education and birth control, not kill people

Yeah, you would think they’d at least be smart enough to enact population control through other less obvious mechanisms than creating a DEADLY KILLER VACCINE.

 

[Pissmaster]

Bill Gates already confirmed he's sterilizing the population by having phones emit radiation because most people keep phones in their pockets, near their genitals. It's a devilishly brilliant plan

I've never seen anyone even attempt to explain how that works

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

I've never seen anyone even attempt to explain how that works

it's simple, remember when those samsung phones were randomly blowing up? that was because they were installing miniature nuclear reactors inside them. they tried to roll it out but the power was too much. But now they've got it down and when Bill Gates gives the order the reactors will turn on and make us infertile.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

I'm just gonna slide in here with a take I feel is underrepresented.

I've seen a lot of shit flinging about the vax being some sort of conspiracy to kill/sterilize/microchip/whatever. None of that is really necessary for me to not want the vax.

I don't think it's exactly a hot take to say the people in positions of power in America (particularly those leading the medical industry) are usually sociopathic greedy cunts. They lie, cheat, and fuck over the populace on a good day. Why should I trust them anymore in this weird set of circumstances. This is a scenario where the drug was rushed to come out as fast as possible, has no data on long term affects, and stands to make some people a lot of money. All of that plus the weird amount propaganda backing seriously skives me out. If they approached this rationally and were reasonable in trying to address my uncertainties I might be more inclined, but the cult like mentality around has me running the other way. All these powerful people pushing the vax never cared about our wellbeing before, infact many want to cull the population. So why should I trust that they want us to be vaxxed for our own sake? And again, I'm not saying this is a sterilization shot or something, it's probably as simple as someone making a lot of money off this vaccine.

tldr - I believe these people would sell my soul for a nickel given the chance, so why would I take their drug that they swear "is for the common good "? I have 0 trust in these people.

 

[Shady Attorney]

All of the above are part of the same process.

Depopulation and genetic management.

They think they are the *only* important members of society.

The people who desire power are going to kill off all the people that willfully listen so they can be left with citizens who despise following orders.
Completely makes sense!

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

The people who desire power are going to kill off all the people that willfully listen so they can be left with citizens who despise following orders.
Completely makes sense!

Not to mention that killing off the population is completely retarded.

They're already in power. Why would they kill off their loyal subjects? They lose money as more people die, as there's fewer people to buy their products and disrupting the system leads to less profits.

Then again, the guy you are arguing with is confirmed to have severe autism and acts like a puritan, evangelical boomer, while believing QAnon. He's still Trusting The Plan

 

[Tortoise Soup]

I'm just gonna slide in here with a take I feel is underrepresented.

I've seen a lot of shit flinging about the vax being some sort of conspiracy to kill/sterilize/microchip/whatever. None of that is really necessary for me to not want the vax.

I don't think it's exactly a hot take to say the people in positions of power in America (particularly those leading the medical industry) are usually sociopathic greedy cunts. They lie, cheat, and fuck over the populace on a good day. Why should I trust them anymore in this weird set of circumstances. This is a scenario where the drug was rushed to come out as fast as possible, has no data on long term affects, and stands to make some people a lot of money. All of that plus the weird amount propaganda backing seriously skives me out. If they approached this rationally and were reasonable in trying to address my uncertainties I might be more inclined, but the cult like mentality around has me running the other way. All these powerful people pushing the vax never cared about our wellbeing before, infact many want to cull the population. So why should I trust that they want us to be vaxxed for our own sake? And again, I'm not saying this is a sterilization shot or something, it's probably as simple as someone making a lot of money off this vaccine.

tldr - I believe these people would sell my soul for a nickel given the chance, so why would I take their drug that they swear "is for the common good "? I have 0 trust in these people.

I can respect this stance. No problem if not taking the vaccine is a “fuck you” to the establishment.

Personally, I don’t think they will do anything to harm their own interests, which involves harming their own work force, voters, and consumers. The vaccine was created for profit, clearly. It was pretty obvious when they panicked because economic lockdowns were imminent. So they used all their resources to come up with a viable vaccine as quickly as possible. I mean, why else come up with a convoluted explanation for why we have the vaccine now.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

Personally, I don’t think they will do anything to harm their own interests, which involves harming their own work force, voters, and consumers. The vaccine was created for profit, clearly. They simply wanted to restart the economies as soon as possible.

I agree, I don't think they'd intentionally harm their most loyal consoomers. I think it's more likely they slapped some shit together and got it out asap to be the first on the market.

To power level a little, I'm currently suffering severe side affects from a fairly common and "safe" drug, as in potentially life ruining kind of severe. This drug is something you can get over the counter in some cases and has been the standard for over a decade. Yet even it occasionally has these 1 in a million freak side affects. Worst part is I started taking it for a minor annoyance and may now lose everything due to this drug.

After this experience I've starkly changed my views of medicine, it really should be a last resort. Sure most severe side affects are rare, but it really sucks if you happen to be the 1 in a million. Given my good odds with coivd and the unknown of the vax, it makes 0 sense to take it.

 

[Tortoise Soup]

I agree, I don't think they'd intentionally harm their most loyal consoomers. I think it's more likely they slapped some shit together and got it out asap to be the first on the market.

To power level a little, I'm currently suffering severe side affects from a fairly common and "safe" drug, as in potentially life ruining kind of severe. This drug is something you can get over the counter in some cases and has been the standard for over a decade. Yet even it occasionally has these 1 in a million freak side affects. Worst part is I started taking it for a minor annoyance and may now lose everything due to this drug.

After this experience I've starkly changed my views of medicine, it really should be a last resort. Sure most severe side affects are rare, but it really sucks if you happen to be the 1 in a million. Given my good odds with coivd and the unknown of the vax, it makes 0 sense to take it.

Sorry to hear that, and I hope you’ll be all right. It’s completely understandable to be hesitant based on personal experience.

On my end, I actually do think that powerful medical and surgical intervention should usually be the last line of defense. But since it looks as if travel is going to depend on vaccination, I don’t have a choice.

The conspiratorial way of thinking going on in this thread, though, is something that must be swiftly dealt with.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

I'm pretty sure most here will agree that if you are of the demographic that is likely to end up on the ventilator then you should probably get vaccinated.

Wait, are you serious?

A virus being "novel" is a reference to when it was discovered, not any physiological or morphological ability of the virus.

Outside of certain immunocompromised cases, everybody produces antibodies. The existing "antibodies dont last!" is dumb because 1) it comes from studies citing only short-term types of antibodies (e.g. IgM) and not long-term types (e.g. IgA); and 2) it neglects the existence of T-cells and B-cells.

Right now there is no proof that vaccine immunity lasts longer, nor any logical explanation of why it would.
The whole point of a vaccine is to trick your body into reacting as if it's fighting the real thing.

Car insurances policies are biased against males aged 16-28 for no apparent reason, I guess.

Yes, I am serious. It's part of this but I can't get it to work rn: https://novascotia.flow.canimmunize.ca/en/9874123-19-7418965

...Wait, seriously? As in literally? Like, the paper you signed said that?

Yes. My province only uses online consent forms unless you request a paper one so if you pick an appointment you have to fill out an online consent form saying they don't know how it could effect people with autoimmune diseases because it hasn't been studied.

 

[Thomas Highway]

Still not jabbed.

Feel sorta shameful about it but that's life.