Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

Okay then. Yeah, underestimating the competence of those in power isn’t really going to end up well for you or anyone.
This is such cope.
Admitting that those in power are smarter than you is not equivalent to respecting or admiring them.
This is such cope.
Semantics. If you don’t think there’s a correlation between the hierarchy of power and wealth and how smart you are, go ahead.
This is such cope.
Sure, babe. If it helps you sleep at night.
This is such cope.
 
Loving the cope, girl💁🏻‍♀️
Dude, the vaccines are a bad idea and have killed over 9000 people already, and it's clear that cummy cum cum in my bum bum bum, and if you honestly believe the CDC, you should really lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, and consider doing your own homework, so that you can finally get it through your retarded faggot head that sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. The facts don't lie. 💅
 
Dude, the vaccines are a bad idea and have killed over 9000 people already, and it's clear that cummy cum cum in my bum bum bum, and if you honestly believe the CDC, you should really lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, and consider doing your own homework, so that you can finally get it through your retarded faggot head that sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. The facts don't lie. 💅
When did I say you should just swallow whatever they’re telling you? I don’t even think people should just get the vaccine, moron. Go do whatever the fuck you want. But based on this thread the “facts” that are being used by the anti-vaccine crowd aren’t even being read or interpreted correctly. Hell, they aren’t even reading the links they’re using to defend their position. I appreciate any rational argument against the vaccine, but rationality isn’t exactly on display here.

Where is the 9000 number from? What percentage is that among the vaccinated population? How does that number of fatalities compare to other vaccination programs in the past? How does that number compare to fatalities from other medicines? How many of those deaths can only be linked to the vaccine?

I understand the skepticism surrounding the AstraZeneca vaccine, but the problem is you guys just stop asking questions because you’ve already stubbornly formed your conclusions long ago. You’re just as bad the people in power you despise.
 
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Then stop peddling your “facts”. There’s a world of difference between vaccine hesitancy and outright lying about the vaccines.
Do vaccines cause autism and the reason why the establishment is hiding it because of corporate pharma greed? This is a genuine question.
 
Do vaccines cause autism and the reason why the establishment is hiding it because of corporate pharma greed? This is a genuine question.
This guy discusses the economics of vaccine production. He’s skeptical of Big Pharma:


It’s up to you to draw your own conclusions about whether it’s more profitable for Big Pharma to hide the fact that vaccines cause autism or to ensure the vaccines are as harmless as possible.
 
Do vaccines cause autism and the reason why the establishment is hiding it because of corporate pharma greed? This is a genuine question.
If you’re curious look at this . It’s from the reporter who looked into Andrew Wakefield, the (now revoked) doctor who led the charge on the autism-vaccine scare. I’d give the whole thing a read
The prime cause of the alarm was findings in the paper claiming that the parents of two thirds of the 12 children blamed MMR for the sudden onset of what was described as a combination of both an inflammatory bowel disease and what Wakefield called “regressive autism”, in which language and basic skills were said to have been lost. Most disturbingly, the first behavioural symptoms were reported to have appeared within only 14 days of the shot.

Meanwhile in America, a ferocious anti-vaccine movement took off after Wakefield toured US autism conferences and, in November 2000, appeared on the CBS network’s 60 Minutes programme linking MMR with what he called an “epidemic of autism”. This was followed by campaigners’ claims that all vaccines are suspect: either due to their content, or because of the number given to children.

But Deer’s investigation discovered that, while Wakefield held himself out to be a dispassionate scientist, two years before the Lancet paper was published – and before any of the 12 children were even referred to the hospital – he had been hired to attack MMR by a lawyer, Richard Barr: a jobbing solicitor in the small eastern English town of King’s Lynn, who hoped to raise a speculative class action lawsuit against drug companies which manufactured the triple shot.

This publicly undisclosed role for Wakefield created the grossest conflict of interest, and the exposure of it by Deer, in February 2004, led to public uproar in Britain, the retraction of the Lancet report’s conclusions section, and, from July 2007 to May 2010, the longest-ever professional misconduct hearing by the UK’s General Medical Council (GMC).

These hourly fees – revealed in The Sunday Times in December 2006 – gave the doctor a direct personal, but undeclared, financial interest in his research claims: totalling more than eight times his reported annual salary and creating an incentive not only for him to launch the alarm, but to keep it going for as long as possible.

In addition to the personal payments, Wakefield was awarded an initial £55,000, which he had applied for in June 1996, but which, like the hourly fees, he never declared to the Lancet

Yet more surprising, Wakefield had asserted the existence of such a syndrome – which allegedly included what he would dub “autistic enterocolitis” – before he performed the research which purportedly discovered it.

And, if this was not enough to cast doubt on the research’s objectivity, The Sunday Timesinvestigation unearthed another shocking conflict of interest. In June 1997 – nearly nine months before the press conference at which Wakefield called for single vaccines – he had filed a patent on products, including his own supposedly “safer” single measles vaccine, which only stood any prospect of success if confidence in MMR was damaged.


Although Wakefield falsely denied the existence of such patent claims, his proposed shot, and a network of companies intended to raise venture capital for purported inventions – including “a replacement for attenuated viral vaccines”, commercial testing kits and what he claimed to be a possible “complete cure” for autism – were set out in confidential documents.

As with the researcher, so too with his subjects. They also were not what they appeared to be. In the Lancet, the 12 children (11 boys and one girl) had been held out as merely a routine series of kids with developmental disorders and digestive symptoms, needing care from the London hospital. That so many of their parents blamed problems on one common vaccine, understandably, caused public concern. But Deer discovered that nearly all the children (aged between 2½ and 9½) had been pre-selected through MMR campaign groups, and that, at the time of their admission, most of their parents were clients and contacts of the lawyer, Barr. None of the 12 lived in London. Two were brothers. Two attended the same doctor’s office, 280 miles from the Royal Free. Three were patients at another clinic. One was flown in from the United States.

Penetrating veils of medical and legal confidentiality, [it had been] discovered that the hospital’s clinicians and pathology service had found nothing to implicate MMR, but that Wakefield had repeatedly changed, misreported and misrepresented diagnoses, histories and descriptions of the children, which made it appear that the syndrome had been discovered.

In response to Deer, Wakefield supporters falsely denied that he took money for research, and, amid a barrage of sometimes paid-for smears and crank abuse of the journalist, lauded the doctor as a “hero“. But the father-of-four’s deceits had not only triggered the resurgence of sometimes fatal or brain-disabling measles outbreaks, plunged countless parents into the hell of believing it was their own fault for agreeing to vaccination that a son or daughter had developed autism, and misled an ethics committee over child rights and safety, but it was discovered that he had gone as far as to betray a vaccine safety whistleblower whose identity he discovered and had bought blood from children as young as four years old, attending a birthday party, and then joked about them crying, fainting and vomiting.
 
When did I say you should just swallow whatever they’re telling you? I don’t even think people should just get the vaccine, moron. Go do whatever the fuck you want. But based on this thread the “facts” that are being used by the anti-vaccine crowd aren’t even being read or interpreted correctly. Hell, they aren’t even reading the links they’re using to defend their position. I appreciate any rational argument against the vaccine, but rationality isn’t exactly on display here.

Where is the 9000 number from? What percentage is that among the vaccinated population? How does that number of fatalities compare to other vaccination programs in the past? How does that number compare to fatalities from other medicines? How many of those deaths can only be linked to the vaccine?

I understand the skepticism surrounding the AstraZeneca vaccine, but the problem is you guys just stop asking questions because you’ve already stubbornly formed your conclusions long ago. You’re just as bad the people in power you despise.
Dude, you just took an obvious shitpost seriously.
 
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