Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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So, we have a man-made vaccine for a man-made virus? I've been thinking about this lately. Surely nothing could go wrong.

Well it turns out that the gain of function research going on at the lab was being funded by the American taxpayer, so there's that. In my opinion they knew it was man made from the beginning but decided on a cover up.

The research in Wuhan was being funded by the US gov because Obama considered it too risky to be carried out in the States and banned it, but Fauci did an end run around the ban by approving a grant to a third party contractor which then pumped money into Wuhan. When Trump rescinded the ban in 2017 Fauci continued with the funding anyway, because why not?

It's a really great example of how the permanent bureaucracy view themselves as above political oversight and will do whatever the fuck they want because "they know better" than democratically elected politicians.

Fauci is in big trouble, especially if it comes out that he financially benefited from the research funding. I get he's considered the High Priest of the Branch Covidian cult, which has meant he's been untouchable for the past year. But clearly the pandemic scare is winding down and this is a scandal so big there will for sure be asses on the line and scalps taken. He's a confirmed liar and a corrupt piece of shit so I sincerely hope his reputation is destroyed (although he deserves prison time).

Just after putting these two quotes together a totally plausible scenario appears. The same people who were involved in gain of function research provided info and/or were directly involved in vaccine research. Therefore, the operation Warp Speed had a great boost from the very beginning if you get my drift.
What if they made vaccines for virus they knew would be released? Does it seem too far fetched? Both are trashy products because well, the quality of everything is going down, and incompetence abounds even in the sacred temples of modern science, but from the business perspective it looks like a great money-maker overall.
 
Watching some of you all tie yourselves in knots over this is hilarious.

Governments are bastards, they don't care about you, there's too many of us using too many resources, we were lied to about SARS, Governments lie habitually, all the time, about lots of things and they will carry on doing do because they can, will and do manipulate public opinion against anyone committing wrong think.

This virus was manmade. my bet is it was released intentionally, and given the number of women experiencing serious period issues after the vaccine - fucking LOADS of them, and miscarriage rates have spiked too, but that's not discussed - and given the using bribes to get people to take the "vaccine", that's the thing to be terrified of.


If you're only just cottoning on to this, what, have you been under a rock the last year? What have you been doing? Really, I'm curious.


Seriously, look at it this way: you have a less than 1% chance of dying of this pussy ass virus (and waaahhhh waaaaaaahhhhhhh long covid, fuck off, fatties and munchies get that shit, and post viral syndrome existed long before this shit, nobody cared before now) and they want to bribe people with lotteries to get them to take the vaccine. If you're not questioning that, you should probably get an IQ test or something cos you're a fucking spastic.
 
Personally I don't know if this was a bioweapon or not, but I am sure about one thing. A bio weapon doesn't necessarily need to be lethal. (I would like to point out that many countries basically have a bio weapons program, they just say it is for bio security. We create the T virus, so we can create the antidote for it. I mean not suspicious at all.)

If we consider that country blocks are competing economically, a few percent of GDP lost due to everybody having diarrhea each year can cause a trade imbalance and demoralization is a population. etc. The sky is the limit, if you are a bastard without a normal moral compass.

Why the fuck were useless masks touted as being required?
This is pure autism on my part, but I have a few ideas. Of course it can be totally true they really just put them out as tools to help stopping the spread.
I mean I would easily believe that people in charge had a pandemic scare, people acted on it and refuse to admit "whoops it wasn't as serious as we thought, sorry for the lockdowns."
(or if you want a double Alex Jones tier take, this was an exercise for what if we had an actual pandemic that decides to spread etc.
The triple Alex Jones tier take is that the pandemic was expected to be real, but the masks were rolled out as a placebo protection to avoid panic. lol)

At the end of the day leaders get their suggestions from Experts, their networks and own biases. Due to how compartmentalized everything is, it is easy to give somebody junk data, lies or data badly interpret and the whole machinery keeps rolling because on their level the logic checks out. Maybe some bad actors can look at existing and legit contingency plans and just basically use those to have what they want. Many organizations roll on autopilots when it comes to that. Not to mention many organizations likes doing things because they want to be important and get more cred/funding. I grew to see many institutions as basically vain beings who can be bribed by good press and a feeling of importance. (having financial kickbacks on multiple levels too help)

Weird social rambling:
It is something that acts to sell the pandemic and new normal narrative. Many parts of the lockdowns and "social distancing" are basically theatrical tools to tell a story in society. It sounds crazy, but if you are having doubts, but everybody (seems) to do something you will not really deviate from that. Society works by basically amplifying, faking or forcing social clues and proof via media and other institutions. Not to mention if you have to do a little routine or ritual, it will feel more real for your brain. Your status quo has changed visibly and actionably. A benefit of that, if you are taking part of the whole cultural momentum, people who don't play along are downright your enemies. You are doing your part, yet the others don't. They must be malicious.

Beside that it became a tool of enforcing the political divide (when actually left and right needs to unite if they want to fight the powers that be) by becoming a political uniform.
Seriously, you see somebody with a masked up profile picture and you can guess most of his politics. The dialectic set up is that you are either on the side of Science! or Freedom!. That is insidious, but sadly not a new thing. It's been really a consistent media project to paint globohomo stuff as the high status and smart thing. Remember the old leftist meme "reality has a liberal bias". They basically constructed a strawman, so Reddit and the general highly educated urbanite elite can feel smart about themselves.

On the other hand it's like a rubber bone issue for both sides. Low stakes, easy to get lost in the partisan politics. This helps to cover the economic and social change is society.
The whole memeflu just overtook the news and mindspace of people. It reminds me how terrorism was used as a social narrative was around 20 years ago or the cold war 40+ years ago.

Sorry for the sperging, I am bad at expressing ideas.
 
Indiana passed a law saying that government buildings can't have 'vaccine passports' or require covid vaccines. Supposedly colleges aren't a part of this, and IU and I think Notre Dame are requiring students and faculty to be vaccinated. Folks are complaining.



I brought this up with a friend that lives in Indy, and his take was that the schools were 100% in the right. I pointed out that some poeple might not be able to get vaccinated due to allergies. Then the conversation went like -

Well they have to.
But they can't.
Well they have to.
But they can't.
Well they have to.
But they can't.

until I said that it wasn't up to me anyway, and that maybe it'll go to court and lawyers and judges can sort it out, then I changed the subject. I really need to find some other word than "friend" to refer to this guy after being on polar opposite sides of too many important things this past year or so.

stop conservatives attending brainwashing institutions and then underfund the Academiggers.
 
Why the fuck were useless masks touted as being required?
Because the DNC lifers had the time needed for their stockbroker's needed to buy a bunch of shares of the companies that make masks so now they could get in on the Bonanza.

I will never forget that we got our first drop of horribly expensive masks the same night that we got the newspaper that said "Governor Puts in Mask Mandate for all businesses"
 
Because the DNC lifers had the time needed for their stockbroker's needed to buy a bunch of shares of the companies that make masks so now they could get in on the Bonanza.

I will never forget that we got our first drop of horribly expensive masks the same night that we got the newspaper that said "Governor Puts in Mask Mandate for all businesses"
In the UK it's because various Government ministers handed out PPE contracts to their friends and family.

That and because most people are fucking pigs who are incapable of sneezing or coughing into a kleenex. I hate my Mom for making me get into that habit as a kid and her constant nagging, but looking at all the disgusting shitheads I see coughing and sneezing into the open, I'm glad she did.

And yet again, people who aren't disgusting fucking slobs are made to suffer and pay because of the disgusting habits of those who are. Hooray.
 

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Doc I worked with for a while says augment that NAC with some guafenisensenens, the shit in mucinex, but don't get all day mucienx, get the generic shit from costco that dumps into to your system asap
then take that in the am before your morning shower with a big glass of water, and you'll basically get the trots but out of your nose
then you'll have way less nose issues
also you've been taking sleeping pills for ages on benedryl so you might have a hiccup or two getting off those, maybe smoke weed or drink vodka or something
Thanks for the tip! Took my first capsule of NAC this morning (just received it). I don't take Benadryl at night, so I don't need to worry about the sleep issue. I'll pick up some regular generic mucinex tomorrow. Appreciate the advice.

eta: About the masks, it's like other users have stated, it's a way to make you change your life and put that ritual in place. Like taking your shoes off at the airport, it's stupid and serves no purpose, but we do it anyway just because it's part of the airport experience now. Don't ever forget that the TSA has an abysmal failure rate at doing what they are tasked to do. It's all theater.
 
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Because the DNC lifers had the time needed for their stockbroker's needed to buy a bunch of shares of the companies that make masks so now they could get in on the Bonanza.

I will never forget that we got our first drop of horribly expensive masks the same night that we got the newspaper that said "Governor Puts in Mask Mandate for all businesses"
Not to mention the shortage (real or perceived), made the doomers go apeshit because if there is a high demand it must be super super dangerous. That drove up prices which benefited mostly Chinese companies; especially when it comes to vinyl gloves.
 
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Not to mention the shortage (real or perceived), made the doomers go apeshit because if there is a high demand it must be super super dangerous. That drove up prices which benefited mostly Chinese companies; especially when it comes to vinyl gloves.
The chinese economy exploded last year. From PPE to plastic shite and crap ordered off Wish and Amazon by fucking retarded consoomers trapped in their homes, desperate to alleviate loneliness with mail and crap they don't need, anything to fill that gaping void in their souls with more junk, to cheap crappy PPE.

I don't think it was malicious as in intended to kill people. But I do believe they generated the hysteria, the fake videos of people dying, knowing it would make other countries panic, and while they did and shut people home, their economy boomed by providing the material goods people believed they needed to make their pathetic lives tolerable.


If people were one of those types, then they should have a good, long hard look at themselves, the shite they purchase and what they think they need and how they spend their money. True and genuine patriotism starts with supporting your local economy, buying domestic made goods, and so on, and goes from there.
 
Not to mention the shortage (real or perceived), made the doomers go apeshit because if there is a high demand it must be super super dangerous. That drove up prices which benefited mostly Chinese companies; especially when it comes to vinyl gloves.
They did the same with masks, remember the news "oh no we can't produce enough!". It is an old trick in the book to increase demand by limiting the supply. Then you can have the news articles like how people are breaking the rules to get X product. Because it is so good.

Like the professional sport ball people getting the vaccines back then and the media "outrage" about it.
 
They did the same with masks, remember the news "oh no we can't produce enough!". It is an old trick in the book to increase demand by limiting the supply. Then you can have the news articles like how people are breaking the rules to get X product. Because it is so good.

Like the professional sport ball people getting the vaccines back then and the media "outrage" about it.
Same with the vaccine. Oh noes, the Oxford/AZ one causes blood clots! have the mRNA one instead!! Ignore the fact that in previous trial for these, outcomes were poor cos of pathogenic priming causing a fatal cytokine storm, forget that, we've got literal airborne ebola AIDS going on here! Get the shots, they might run out soon!!!


I'm appalled people are all so fucking stupid they can't understand or see this. Like, what did your fucking parents have you for, if they couldn't be arsed teaching you this shit? A loving parent teaches their kid this stuff early on, parents who don't are so fucking stupid they shouldn't be allowed to breed.


This shit isn't hard or complex or difficult, it's straightforward, it's just work and involves answering questions. That's all. If people can't be bothered doing that, then they should either start, if they have kids, or not have kid at all. What's the point if you haul them up to be as retarded and stupid as yourself?
 
That and because most people are fucking pigs who are incapable of sneezing or coughing into a kleenex. I hate my Mom for making me get into that habit as a kid and her constant nagging, but looking at all the disgusting shitheads I see coughing and sneezing into the open, I'm glad she did.
I remember how it was drilled into us kids at school to cough or sneeze into our hands. No mention of then washing your hands right away or anything. lol I guess it was better than just blasting droplets into the air.

Masks are the current year equivalent of sitting under your desk if a nuclear attack happens nearby. It gives you something to do but if you are in a situation where you need to do that, it's probably too little too late.
 
Same with the vaccine. Oh noes, the Oxford/AZ one causes blood clots! have the mRNA one instead!! Ignore the fact that in previous trial for these, outcomes were poor cos of pathogenic priming causing a fatal cytokine storm, forget that, we've got literal airborne ebola AIDS going on here! Get the shots, they might run out soon!!!


I'm appalled people are all so fucking stupid they can't understand or see this. Like, what did your fucking parents have you for, if they couldn't be arsed teaching you this shit? A loving parent teaches their kid this stuff early on, parents who don't are so fucking stupid they shouldn't be allowed to breed.


This shit isn't hard or complex or difficult, it's straightforward, it's just work and involves answering questions. That's all. If people can't be bothered doing that, then they should either start, if they have kids, or not have kid at all. What's the point if you haul them up to be as retarded and stupid as yourself?
Most people just live their lives and don't even know about the tricks being played. Heck, many will downright get offended if you try to meta talk things. Like "who cares about that" will be the response. I am not saying people are conditioned, but they seem to only look at the big things (muh billionaires etc.). Not the fact that the Salad bar tries to trick your brain by putting the same salad in a smaller but wider container for an increased price so your brain thinks "it's more lol".

Also parents teaching their kids... eh, I really could go on a rant how centralization basically nuked the functions and power of local communities and families. It is basically outsourced (by mandate) to the school system and the media (by laziness and economical necessity). And franky neither of those teach people any values or methods that are necessary for a mindset needed for a Republic or to deal with our current economic system.

I would say it is just teaching learned helplessness and dependence on authority.
 
Nothing says punk rock like charging unvaccinated attendees one grand to see bands that are not well known in the mainstream.
https://thehill.com/changing-americ...rt-tickets-are-18-if-youre-vaccinated-1000-if
I guarantee this has absolutely nothing to do with safety, and Teenage Bottlerocket trying to get their name in headlines. I saw them open for Dropkick Murphys back in high school, and they were just an incredibly forgettable, dime-a-dozen, skate-punk band
 
I guarantee this has absolutely nothing to do with safety, and Teenage Bottlerocket trying to get their name in headlines. I saw them open for Dropkick Murphys back in high school, and they were just an incredibly forgettable, dime-a-dozen, skate-punk band
Couldn't get into Teenage Bottlerocket for the life of me. Why do they still exist?
 
Why the fuck were useless masks touted as being required?
My take? All the media hysteria in March 2020 onwards made a lot of people realize and fear their own mortality for the first time in their lives. It's shocking how many people in the world never really conceptualized that one day, no matter what they do, they will die.

The mask is sort of a security talisman or safety blanket for them. By wearing it, they feel like they're protected from dying once again. However, the media pumped out the (true) fact that unless we're talking about a N95 mask and goggles, it doesn't do shit to protect you. At best, it's a strapped on sleeve sneeze. So, the governments (desperate to keep the pleb tiers going to their menial wage jobs and consooming from the businesses and stores they allowed to stay open) put out the mandates to make the manchildren who realized they were mortal just functional enough to still keep the money rolling in.

Also, it makes the government look like they're 'doing something', and it also transfers all the blame from government incompetence and the inevitability of death and disease to the individual, it allows people to blame every case, every restriction, etc. on people not complying hard enough with their masks. That's why they're so rabid about the masks and "Anti-maskers". To them, it's a magic talisman which removes the sheer horror they experienced being confronted by the concept of their own death.

This was the take told to me by a close contact of mine who doesn't believe in any of the conspiracy stuff, but thinks all this COVID-19 shit is dumb. And personally, I think it's the most rational take to all the bullshit we've experienced over the past year and a half.

This is also why they're obsessed with the vaccine, they feel that by getting vaccinated, they can go back to their child-like bliss of never having to be confronted by the thought they will die someday.
 
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