HARD DISAGREE there mate
That's partly why I'm actually onboard with moving towards gender neutral restrooms. Not that we should just go and do it willy nilly, the real issue really is with the perverts and harassment - which is a complicated thing with weak statistics on. What little data we have shows that shit increases when gender neutral restrooms are introduced, but I think troons actually have a (self-defeating) point that there are a lot of assaults by men in women's restrooms anyway, and we don't have the best data to line it up right now so who knows how strong or weak that makes the gender-neutral data. But point being - it's such a distraction from fact that in 2021 in the Western hemisphere and we as a society can't guarantee safety while people are shitting or changing clothes and have to separate men and women like children to eek out a bit of safety. All that leaves (which less perverted trans people are more interested in, despite the dishonesty about safety) are dumb gender norms. So dudes can have locker room talk and women can do make up and we can all pretend women don't fart or have periods. Nobody gives a shit about that but troons and rightoids. Women's shelters and the like are a somewhat different story, but on a long enough timeline, it's still a similar goal.
You mean this thread? https://boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/63946427
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Hmmmm….naturally slightly weird girly looking dude would be more my guess, like Andre Pejic. Who spends a fortune on plastic surgery and keeps a nose like that?
Emphasis mine. I think this is the biggest contributor to their “passing”. Just a few pages ago we talked about how high fashion designers use tall, emaciated women as models because they’re gay men into twinks. Hunter Schafer doesn’t look like a soft, feminine woman, but he does kind of look like a high fashion model. They often have sharp, angular features, no breasts, hips or thighs, tall, etc. That’s how young skinny gay men “pass“, especially in pictures. Emphasis on young, skinny, and fashionable.
As a high fashion model? Sure. In twenty years? Fuck no.
The last one does, but that's only because the red garbage bag tricks the mind in projecting curves that aren't there.
Kim Petras passe-
My favourite counter to the 'bullying is why twans suicide rates are so high' bullshit is black people.
I assume you're familiar with the tucute/truscum divide, yes?
There are plenty of MtFs who pass. They just don't call themselves "trans" online or hang around those spaces, so you won't find them unless you're unusually degenerate. Go look at a place like the "Sissies" sub on reddit for example and you'll see plenty of people that pass (I am using that sub as an example because it's amateurs posting their own pics, so you are not seeing the work of unusually expensive surgeries). The ones you see here are the AGPs and the HSTS failsons.
Ah yes the silent majority of passing trannies.
Sissies and femboy (or whatever you want to call them) don't pass either. All of the pictures were they sort of look like women are the result of careful posing and a ton of photoshop. It just looks like they passes because they're only posting the photos were they passes instead of the hundreds of photos were they don't pass.
I completely agree, but I’ve watched enough tranny arguments from the sideline to know what their answer to that will be:
I forget the figures but even literal antebellum slaves didnt have anywhere near the (alleged) troon suicide rate.
