🐷 The Killstream General Discussion Thread - Discuss Ethan Ralph's stagnant Killstream and his appearances on other shows.

[MeltyTW]

doing whatever the fuck he does in his free time

seething on kf socks and flagging mild criticism of him down illegally

 

[Roman Gunt Guard]

The text that Ralph is using for his "DMCA" notice is copied from a template from a 2009 article from IPWatchdog (archive).

Spoiler: IPWatchdog Article

Sample DMCA Take Down Letter​

By Gene Quinn
July 6, 2009

It just came to my attention earlier today that someone had copied an entire article from IPWatchdog.com and posted it to their own website last week. How is it possible that anyone doesn’t realize that you just cannot do that? More likely, it is known that you cannot do that but people do it figuring they won’t get caught. One of the most frequent questions I would get from my former law students was “how do you ever learn that someone is infringing” or “how would you ever know what someone it thinking?” For those areas of law where motive matters, luckily those who are malicious also tend to be rather stupid. While they don’t necessarily need to tell you they fired you because you are African American, female or disabled, so many people revel in their own bigotry (and stupidity) and just cannot help themselves. That is a special kind of hate, when you cut your nose off to spite your own face. In the intellectual property context it frequently isn’t as easy to spot infringement unless you are vigilant, search and survey what is out there at any given time.

Online copyright infringement is rampant, everyone knows that. But did you know that there is usually a very easy solution? If you are the owner of a copyright you can provide notice to the webhosting company that houses the infringing material, and they will almost always take action. The Digital Millennium Copyright Act provides protection from copyright infringement lawsuits for service providers. This protection manifests itself in immunity from being sued for infringement, but they must take reasonable and swift action to remedy an infringement once they are notified. Since they do not want to lose their immunity from copyright infringement, if you notify them of an ongoing infringement they will almost always order the website owner to take down the infringing material, or they will.

You must send this notice in writing to the webhosting company, which you can learn through a WHOIS lookup. You must provide at a minimum:

1. A physical or electronic signature (i.e., /sneed/NAME) of a person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the copyright that is allegedly infringed.
2. Identification of the copyrighted work claimed to have been infringed.
3. Identification of the material that is claimed to be infringing and information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to locate the material.
4. Information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to contact the complaining party, such as an address, telephone number, and, if available, an electronic mail address at which the complaining party may be contacted.
5. A statement that the complaining party has a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner.
6. A statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that the complaining party is authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the copyright that is allegedly infringed.

What follows is a sample letter modeled off the one I sent earlier today, which you may use if you so choose. If you use this form you agree to the terms and conditions at the bottom of this page.
____________________
SAMPLE DMCA TAKE DOWN NOTICE
My name is INSERT NAME and I am the INSERT TITLE of INSERT COMPANY NAME. A website that your company hosts (according to WHOIS information) is infringing on at least one copyright owned by my company.
An article was copied onto your servers without permission. The original ARTICLE/PHOTO, to which we own the exclusive copyrights, can be found at:

PROVIDE WEBSITE URL

The unauthorized and infringing copy can be found at:

PROVIDE WEBSITE URL

This letter is official notification under Section 512(c) of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (”DMCA”), and I seek the removal of the aforementioned infringing material from your servers. I request that you immediately notify the infringer of this notice and inform them of their duty to remove the infringing material immediately, and notify them to cease any further posting of infringing material to your server in the future.

Please also be advised that law requires you, as a service provider, to remove or disable access to the infringing materials upon receiving this notice. Under US law a service provider, such as yourself, enjoys immunity from a copyright lawsuit provided that you act with deliberate speed to investigate and rectify ongoing copyright infringement. If service providers do not investigate and remove or disable the infringing material this immunity is lost. Therefore, in order for you to remain immune from a copyright infringement action you will need to investigate and ultimately remove or otherwise disable the infringing material from your servers with all due speed should the direct infringer, your client, not comply immediately.

I am providing this notice in good faith and with the reasonable belief that rights my company owns are being infringed. Under penalty of perjury I certify that the information contained in the notification is both true and accurate, and I have the authority to act on behalf of the owner of the copyright(s) involved.

Should you wish to discuss this with me please contact me directly.

Thank you.

/sneed/YOUR NAME

Address
City, State Zip
Phone
E-mail
____________________
TERMS & CONDITIONS OF USE: While forms are commonly used and available elsewhere around the Internet it is important to understand the limitations provided by forms. A form, by its very nature, is previously written, usually to address a typical situation. Unfortunately, in law there are few typical situations. While this form will be useful for some, the use of a form should not be viewed as a replacement for competent legal advise adapted to your particular situation. IPWatchdog, Inc. and Gene Quinn personally accept no liability if you do use this or a modified version of this Agreement. Use of this form does not create an attorney-client relationship.

If Gunty can just copy and paste and Odyssy just takes the content down, then anyone can copyright claim Ralph, he plays clips from TV stations all the time. In fact a few days ago he streamed NBC, OANN, and Fox News. He had no content he literally watched TV.

 

[Fslur]

If Gunty can just copy and paste and Odyssy just takes the content down, then anyone can copyright claim Ralph, he plays clips from TV stations all the time. In fact a few days ago he streamed NBC, OANN, and Fox News. He had no content he literally watched TV.

I don’t believe the Channels got reviewed at all. Pho’s in particular often started before the Killstream, 20 mins+, had music & commentary. Ralph doesn’t have copyright on Pho saying the Gunt is shit.

 

[Roman Gunt Guard]

FUCKING LOL
How the hell did Reethan get so pressed by this guy who looks 16-year-old? That was a full minute-long meltdown, except the kid half Ralph's age is the adult in the situation.

Ethan's flaggotry has far surpassed Mundane Matt.

The best part about this is that he can't hide it. It's open to public viewing.

 

[Vanquished Phoenix]

How much does the gunt pay a month for that secureserver.tv service?

[... a lot of useful information]

Sir, don't you know that they approached him?! Do you think that an overpriced video-content service that just relabels the same website/app for whichever "customer" they sign on would look through social media to find people complaining about being deplatformed? And then contact these deplatformed persons, who have limited options, and offer them a great deal for 30% of every subscription fee and hundreds of dollars a month in set costs? Do you think they would have a vague ToS that would allow them to get rid of anybody that might end up causing them issues, legal or otherwise?

[I'm having issues finding a tweet (been looking for an hour) as Ralph deleted a lot and appears to have locked down his account, but imagine Augie saying "I thought we were friends, my arms are skeletal." and Ralph responding "You were in my DMs hitting me up about how I got my streaming service, they approached me!" Will edit post if find it.]

Also if I were Onision (and thank god I'm not), I would contact Ralph/secureserver.tv and demand they stop using my image to advertise their right-wing streaming service.

EDIT: I have spent a stupid amount of time on this. I have looked through multiple threads, through many different Twitter accounts, through Flemenco's Bridge Burning stream, through Augie's recent stream on the drama (granted, both on 5x speed), but I can't find the tweet. If anyone has it, please let me know.

 

[RichardRApe]

Sir, don't you know that they approached him?!

Is that true? I must have missed that tidbit. I'm not up to Eagle Eyes' standards.

 

[MeltyTW]

you know i was trying to think of reasons ralph isnt just outright saying hes right wing or trying to just out right pretend to be a part of the far right when hes getting all the cons and none of the pros from denying it, its because he doesnt want held to any standards. i think he did that on the left and center too iirc, saying he agreed alot with but wasnt a part of so people "couldnt" say he was a degen white trash criminal pos. thats not how it works ralph, no one on this planet thinks of you as a neutral streamer who just happens to have on near exclusively alt right spergs, and taking on a groups entire talking points except for any standards that apply to you , or denying when the points you want apply to you, doesnt fly.

its why most of the right hates you, its why any time you go somewhere the audience goes into an uproar demanding you be kicked. like it or not pig people in a movement have a right and even an obligation to weed out pos from representing them. you complained about people trying to gatekeep you by not bowing down and congratulating content creators they like for committing massive hypocrisy by even talking to you in a form that isnt a brutal dressing down of your degen lifestyle. theyre not the ones wrong for trying to keep you out, much like a cartel spic youre the one in the wrong by trying to worm yourself in somewhere you dont belong.

just know that even if you are accepted people will hold you to standards even with the golden excuse of "well i agree with anything thats convenient to me and my gunt only."

 

[Fslur]

Ralph owns the copyright of Pho talking shit and criticizing him.

Then I hope Odysee puts Pho’s videos on Ralph’s channel. Ralph obviously wouldn’t want that....

 

[byuu]

What's with those all those alt-tech platforms sucking the gunt?

 

[Haru Okumura]

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Ralph owns the copyright of Pho talking shit and criticizing him.

Then I hope Odysee puts Pho’s videos on Ralph’s channel. Ralph obviously wouldn’t want that....

Did that email end with "Best Regards, Tom" beneath the rating prompt, by any chance? Asking for a friend.

 

[Sam Losco]

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Ralph owns the copyright of Pho talking shit and criticizing him.

Then I hope Odysee puts Pho’s videos on Ralph’s channel. Ralph obviously wouldn’t want that....

I'm having the exact same experience. Tom even went and removed the upload I did with the audio all pig noises and is claiming it's not transformative. I pressed him and then he switched to claiming its DMCA red flag rules. I'll post the full email exchange later when I can take better screenshots. We need to find out who the rest of the Odysee staff are and send this to them along with all the evidence of Tom bribing Ralph with LBC. Tom is going to kill the site if he's not dealt with.

 

[Haru Okumura]

I'm having the exact same experience. Tom even went and removed the upload I did with the audio all pig noises and is claiming it's not transformative. I pressed him and then he switched to claiming its DMCA red flag rules. I'll post the full email exchange later when I can take better screenshots. We need to find out who the rest of the Odysee staff are and send this to them along with all the evidence of Tom bribing Ralph with LBC. Tom is going to kill the site if he's not dealt with.

You mean Tom Zarebczan, known fan and Trovo viewer of the Killstream...



Tweet (archive)

...is personally blanket-deleting anything critical of Ethan Ralph in what is a very blatant conflict of interest? Shocking.

Most of the commits to LBRY's DMCA notice github repository are posted by Clement Amponsah, who is not listed as a member of LBRY staff on their site but lists his title as "Director of Customer Support at LBRY Inc" on his LinkedIn. That's who I'd appeal the DMCA issue to if I had an issue with a specific support agent, and who Tom frankly should have passed the issue to on his own. He'd presumably be the one with the authority to overrule Tom and reinstate the content.

EDIT: I'd send a response back to Tom and request he recuse himself first, though.

 

[PhoBingas]

Its shockingly easy to set up new channels. Unless Odysee range bans my entire frozen shithole, I'll keep popping up until I get bored of Ralph. I honestly think that it would be funny as shit to have all my shitty, no talent streams on Ralph's odysee. Then Ralph can deal with the half a dozen music DMCA slaps on the wrist if music companies hound Odysee for infringing content.

 

[Fslur]

Did that email end with "Best Regards, Tom" beneath the rating prompt, by any chance? Asking for a friend.

& this is just vindictiveness.. Since you would literally have to go clip by clip. A lot of them were unique & transformative. I didn’t mirror often, and this is just because I complained about Pho’s channel.

I deleted all of my channels. Red flag number one was Gunty being excited about it. The platform allowing Ralph to stream was what they should do, however the financial endorsements. That is when it got weird.


*edited to add email & paragraph to not double post.

 

[MeltyTW]

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he seems to always find one little worm who likes him and only one in all these places, infowars harrison or whoever, dlive that one guy i forget, always one little faggot that gives him an in to embezzle all their shit.

 

[Fslur]

he seems to always find one little worm who likes him and only one in all these places, infowars harrison or whoever, dlive that one guy i forget, always one little faggot that gives him an in to embezzle all their shit.

It’s weird to me that the Odysee employee discussed another’s users channel with me. Told me that it was 99% copyrighted, there’s no way you could make that conclusion if you actually reviewed it. Also transformation doesn’t work like that.

Honestly tried to give them a fair chance. I have been suspecting this company wants to fail. Well they’ve got Ethan Ralph to ‘help’ them

 

[Ralphamale]

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& this is just vindictiveness.. Since you would literally have to go clip by clip. A lot of them were unique & transformative. I didn’t mirror often, and this is just because I complained about Pho’s channel.

I deleted all of my channels. Red flag number one was Gunty being excited about it. The platform allowing Ralph to stream was what they should do, however the financial endorsements. That is when it got weird.

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*edited to add email & paragraph to not double post.

Odysee has begun it's death rattles. This is why we can't have nice things Tom, faggots like you have to break the rules for piggies.

 

[MeltyTW]

Told me that it was 99% copyrighted

90 percent of it is tucker clips lol, ask Tom about that flagrant double standard im curious his response

 

[Stasi]

So they completely crumble to a bullshit DMCA from a literal who? How do you not have policies to deal with this, why are these alt platforms so embarrassingly shit?

 

[Ethanol Ralph]

So they completely crumble to a bullshit DMCA from a literal who? How do you not have policies to deal with this, why are these alt platforms so embarrassingly shit?

My guess is that they are faggots who err on the side of overcaution