Clayton Ray Huff / Dream / DreamOnPvP / DreamTraps / DreamAF / DreamXD / DeltaKnight / DreamSkilful / Clayman23 - Fat Minecraft Youtuber with fans that want to torture and rape him and are in denial that he's fat.

Is JacobTMK the Fatman?

  • Yes! It's a deadringer!

    Votes: 305 13.2%
  • No! That's Dream!

    Votes: 1,713 74.1%
  • It's neither of them!

    Votes: 295 12.8%

  • Total voters
    2,313
As a nosy bitch, feel free to share it in private message (I don't want to dox him either, I am just extremely curious).
Me as well.
Me too as well
I'm curious too.
Also agreeing that I’d like to see Ranboo’s dox.
I hate to admit it, but me too
Curious as well.
Post dox, or don't talk about it. Simple as

@Pleasedon't @naella Look at all these poor kiwis you're neglecting ;(

Think of the children!
 
The reason he hasn’t had a thread is he is a faggot, but boring and predictable.

Besides his “America deserved 9/11,” he doesn’t do much besides be a degenerate on the internet and being a moralfag on every talking point that the socialists want to work up.
I wouldn't say hes a predictable. Hes a mentally deranged loose cannon that flies off the handle randomly and goes 6 hour long rants raging against random comments sock accounts leave and/or his own naive fans. Either by his own inconsistency, or trying to hold all of the progressive cards at once despite their incompatibility (like maintaining that violence against Black and Asian people is the same despite violence against Asian people being statistically irrelevant, not to mention they're one of if not the most racist group of people in America. How is that White people, who are supposedly the root of all racism in Hasans view, can sell shit to Blacks in stores without gunning them down a la Latasha Harlins?) he always seems to make an ass of himself and his fans, like the little stockholm syndrome girlfriends they are, defend his bizarre and outlandish behavior.
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Keep in mind this was last year around this time, he's gotten worse with the random sperging/outbursts since then
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Lol "Bernie is out" and Blacks getting killed in another part of the country are reasons for depression/autistic rage amongst these people
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Only semi based take in the whole thread, he really does need to grow up


The only thing i think he really cares about is control and not being held to account for any of the shit hes done (of which theres a massive backlog even beyond the brief moment of national attention he got with the 9/11 comments). Its hard to locate all of the milk but it certainly is out there.
 
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😒 Get back to talking about Clayton.

If Ranboo is worthy of his own thread, make one. If he doesn't justify a thread, fucking stop talking about him. And if there's no Ranboo topic then he doesn't need to be doxxed in this thread. Ranboo's just an ugly teenager who likes playing Minecraft. He isn't a lolcow; don't be spiteful.
 
😒 Get back to talking about Clayton.

If Ranboo is worthy of his own thread, make one. If he doesn't justify a thread, fucking stop talking about him. And if there's no Ranboo topic then he doesn't need to be doxxed in this thread. Ranboo's just an ugly teenager who likes playing Minecraft. He isn't a lolcow; don't be spiteful.
I guess that's true, but to be fair we pretty much had the topic shoved onto us unprovoked.
Ranboo is not worthy of a thread as of yet, his stans definitely are, but we already have a thread for that. Even if he was thread worthy making a Kiwi thread on a teenager seems a little low [even for this website lol].
 
Dreams Chinese audiences reacts to dream admitting to cheat: Link
After Dream posted a Pastebin to admit to cheating on speedrun and claimed this was unintentional, several popular content creators in Bilibili posted videos or articles about it and the responses from Chinese audience are polarized.

Important​

  • I am not English native. Translations made by me may not be 100% correct and may contain errors that might affect the original meaning. Feel free to tell me in the comment section.
  • It is strongly recommended to read all of the content of this article instead of jumping to the TL;DR section at the very end as there may be a lot of details that are worth your attention.
  • While I will try my best to be as neutral as possible, still I would like to point out some details that are worth criticizing for and thus I will express my opinions on these things. Criticisms are appreciated.
  • The tone indicators listed below are added by myself for better understanding of some of the sarcastic comments.
  • Please familiarize yourself with the vocabulary listed below as this article will frequently contain these words.

Vocabulary​

  • Danmu/bullet curtain (弹幕) in Bilibili is a form of video commentary used on video consisting of scrolling viewer messages posted on top of the video in real time.
  • KY, originated from “空気が読めない“ (Romanization: Kuuki ga Yomenai), literal meaning “unable to read the atmosphere”, is used to describe people who said inappropriate things in an inappropriate place. (E.g. Spamming Minecraft memes in non-Minecraft related videos)
  • “理中客”: Literal meaning "rational, neutral and objective". To describe people who overuse the term as their standard in order to avoid getting hate from both sides.
  • “骑墙派”: To describe a person who has unstable stance on a incident.
  • 227 Incident refers to a series of controversies happened on Chinese actor Xiao Zhan (肖战) regarding his fans boycotting the fanfiction named “Falling (下坠)” involving the actor in Archive of Our Own (AO3). (Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boycott_against_Xiao_Zhan_Incident)
  • LBW (卢本伟, or Lu BenWei) refers to the controversy where he was suspected cheating in PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds (PUBG) and manipulated his fans to send hate to people who accused him of using cheat in IRL fans meeting.

Contexts​

I will first list three comment sections that are positive or neutral towards Dream.
苏维埃冰棺中的伊利亚 (White for short, currently has 495k followers as of 2021-6-2)
White redirected Dream's Pastebin and stated neutral in the last part of their article.
https://imgur.com/a/elBjH6X
Original post from Dream.
Our translation team has considered translating it but decided not to do so as there may be meaning bias due to the translation errors.
Neutral stance.
The majority of Minecraft fans of White are Dream SMP fans, therefore the comment section is mainly filled with supportive, constructive and forgiving comments. There are still some antis that come from Zi Min/阿诺acts' videos to simply criticize these stan comments, though.
(Related articles: /r/DreamWasTaken2/comments/noz4m5/comments_from_chinese_dream_fans_regarding_dreams/)
Quartz_Elephant (currently has 27k followers)
Quartz_Elephant also redirected Dream's Pastebin with translations in their article.
https://imgur.com/a/qsmf6k2
The day after MCC 14, at 4:00 EST time, Dream posted a long reply on Pastebin about the cheating scandal.
He elaborated on the whole story of the development of the whole thing to this point. The article is very long, so please be patient and read it all.
Many thanks to our teammates for the translation. We hope that we can let everyone understand him a little more.
Constructive criticisms are appreciated, but please do not post any irrational comments and arguments to attack any related parties mentioned below.
Edit 1: At the same time of posting this article, Dream tweeted in his private account about his Pastebin being deleted by Pastebin (not by himself), but the reason was unknown, and he deleted the original tweet, too.
Edit 2: Geosquare reached an agreement with Dream, explained and apologized again for falsely claiming Dream for saying the n-word in March.
Edit 3: Dream said he will bring up this incident in the future in the last part of his long post. We will update when Dream has more news.
This comment section is filled with DNF fans' comments, so the atmosphere is the same with White's ones.
DreamsMom (currently has 620k followers)
DreamsMom reuploaded the latest Detective Dream livestream with some video cuts and translations.
https://imgur.com/a/oEbV21r
Original title of Dream's livestream
To ensure the Chinese translations have almost the same meaning of every sentence Dream said in this livestream, I have edited the translation 3 times.
As I need to take a rest now, I cannot manage the comment section. I hope everyone who clicked this video can express their opinions after they have watched the whole video and don't take the things out of context.
No matter how intentional or unintentional it is, cheating is cheating. No one can defend him for this. Quoting Dream's "In this incident, no matter what points of view I stand, I was still in the wrong, sorry!" as an example.
However, everyone please don't misinterpret his original post to mislead others before expressing your opinions on this incident.
To cater for fans' patience, I have made this long livestream to a cut version and carefully investigated every sentence from Dream. Although a total of 50 minutes is cut, I am sure I have included everything Dream wanted to tell us.
The atmosphere here is neutral but most people hope that Dream can learn from these mistakes and go back to normal.
Now, I am going to describe the comment sections of the other two content creators that are very controversial and some parts of them are heavily misleading.
籽岷 (Zi Min, currently has 2.79m followers)
Video: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Ph411i7LP
Title: "The truth is revealed! Dream admitted to cheating in speedrun!"
This is the third time Zi Min has posted videos on cheating scandal. This video has got over 1 million views that went trending in Bilibili.
https://imgur.com/a/xMVWmcG
Main points
  • Redirected Dream's pastebin and tweets with Google translate.
  • Recommended 阿诺acts' video for further investigation
  • Mentioned Dream refuted some tweets from CzechCloud regarding the death threats he received from Dream stans.
  • Mentioned he (Zi Min) had been attacked by Dream stans and antis for being too neutral (理中客) and having unstable stance (骑墙派). Therefore, he was upset and was not willing to make another video about Dream's n-word controversy.
  • Claimed he was a rational Dream fan and stated admitting mistakes after knowing the truth was necessary no matter if this was intentional or unintentional.
  • Stated Dream's irrational fans hurt many people and someone in his comment section compared Dream with 227 Incident.
  • Expressed he was also a fan of "tens of millions of Minecraft players behind Dream".
  • Hoped Dream could let it go and keep his enthusiasm on Minecraft.
Criticisms
*The video title is somehow clickbait as it is shown above. While I agree it might be the most suitable title as Dream did cheat (unintentionally), this will probably lead more Dream stans and antis to hate him. Also, he made 3 videos on Dream's cheating scandal in total which is a bit too much considering he is the most followed Minecraft content creator in Bilibili. *Zi Min has mentioned during his research Dream deleted his tweet, fortunately someone kept the Pastebin and reposted it on the website, but does not mention he did so because his Pastebin was deleted by staff. As a result, some bullet curtains think Dream felt guilty and deleted it on purpose, while in reality it is not true. However, Zi Min has not posted a follow-up status on it after Dream mentioned in his private account that his Pastebin was deleted for unknown reasons.
https://imgur.com/a/YN4i3R6
Thumbnails
  1. Admitted! Speedrun! Cheating! [1253k views]
  2. Dream style hell-like training (Not related)
  3. Responses from Dream and various professionals - Chaos (Astrophysics PhD, statistics PhD, mathematicians) [769k views]
  4. Cheating? Lucky? Skills? [945k views]
阿诺acts (currently has 42k followers)
Video: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV19N411Z71P
Title: "Breaking news! The truth of Dream's cheating scandal - he admitted he used drop rate mod"
This is the fourth time he made a video on this topic. This video just summarizes the whole cheating scandal from December 2020 until now. However, the following two of his follow-up statuses are quite controversial.
His two statuses: https://imgur.com/a/bwnAXwG
Dream has deleted his Pastebin tweet and responded to some trash talks on Twitter with anger. Based on this and considering the fact that his Pastebin link is not working anymore, he might intentionally delete it?
Dream seems to delete the text, as the link can no longer be clicked. I don't know whether it was intentional or unintentional, but we let the bullet fly for a while. He should be very clear that it is meaningless to delete something posted on the Internet 🤔
His comment: https://imgur.com/a/iaV1oJY
2021-5-31 16:15 UTC+8
Dream has deleted both his tweet and his Pastebin for unknown reasons. Let's wait for the further news for now👌
The same day 17:15 UTC+8
Dream claimed in his private Twitter account that his Pastebin was deleted by the website, therefore he deleted the tweet.
Pay attention to the word "声称/claimed". Dream's claim is true as he posted his Pastebin as a guest which makes him unable to delete his Pastebin.
Comments from both comment sections
https://imgur.com/a/vvO8LuD (Zi Min’s comment)
Dream stans and antis are gonna attack me again [crying]
Double attacks 😂👍 (/j)
Give a hug to our Uncle Zi Min. Some people just give their opinions without knowing the whole incident.
Protect our Uncle Zi Min
https://imgur.com/a/7vIQteh
Although no one is perfect, he surely doesn't know how to be well-being. We did not hold high moral standards for him, and he has his own (r-slur) behaviors which are worth criticizing for.
https://imgur.com/a/Tj9aL4e
Why did you (Dream) delete the apology? Why did you do that if you were sure you didn't cheat on purpose?
What a great move of promoting optimism on Twitter! "I will continue to promote positive energy" Dream brother cheers! (/sneed)
https://imgur.com/a/grrcLOT
It just helps him get more views anyway
https://imgur.com/a/QqvsnhZ
It is true that admitting and learning from mistakes are good, but according to Zi Min, Dream deleted his tweet after he apologized for unknown reasons (00:40). It is possible that he might feel guilty, or some parties who are in relation to Dream demanded him to delete (personal guess). All in all, Dream does have skills and creative mindsets, but it is hoped that Dream could have way less stans in the future.
https://imgur.com/a/8yp5Ix9
As he cheated and expressed he did not care about Chinese audience, I think he is a “traffic star”, just like a bubble.
What? Dream cheated but this has nothing to do with not caring about us. And this claim has already been debunked before.
https://imgur.com/a/1poLFVl
”After rigorous mathematical calculations to prove that Dream cheated”
Dream stans: Dream has recruited a PhD to refute that it’s impossible to cheat!
”Dream admitted to cheating”
Dream stans: So what if he cheated, his videos still prove that Dream is a skilled player
”Dream mentions that the mod was originally intended for his own video, and indeed had previously changed the drop rate and piglin trade when recording the video”
Dream stans: The first thing that we hate is the Dream stans, not dream himself
Now who is the real Dream stan
https://imgur.com/a/3RbRXVh
First celebrity stans, then idol stans, then VTuber stans, now finally MCYT stans
True, take an example of the stan culture like badcen’s one (大炒面制造者Cen, who is a popular Minecraft pvper with 417k followers)
These days cringey Minecraft kids always KY Minecraft memes everywhere 😅
https://imgur.com/a/HkuY3mf
”He cursed and cheated”
”But he brought us joy”
😅 (/sneed)
How is your comment with 80 likes at the top of Zi Min’s with 22k likes? Did you use cheat? (/j)
Me, LBW, did not cheat (/j /sneed)
https://imgur.com/a/BppS2dM
”He cheated”
”But his skills are good”
”But he indeed cheated”
Many arguments in this comment section can be concluded as these three lines. It is so strange that they can still argue with each other without even trying to debunk each other’s points.
You thought that they argued about Dream cheating? Actually they discuss whether Dream's popularity should die down.

My thoughts​

Some of the Dream stans in Bilibili, or should I call them "Dream prayers", are quite different from the usual ones on Twitter. Instead, they are even more annoying than the latter. As mentioned by the above comments, not only do they send hate to others, but also in other non-Dream related Minecraft videos, they claimed almost every single common speedrunning skill that Dream has shown like quick nether portal trick and MLG moments as "Dream moments" (Dream行为) in Danmu or comments. To make the matter worse, it can be easily seen that most of them are young kids who even just watch edited Manhunt MLG moments from clickbait channels in Douyin (Tik Tok in China) and some of them claimed Dream is the "God of Minecraft".
On the other hand, it seems like Dream antis here jump into the conclusions first without even knowing the whole incident. Moveover, some of the Dream haters claimed they actually don't hate Dream but his stans, and demand Dream to control his fanbase, including the Chinese one. Even though in my opinion he should do so on Twitter, unless Dream set up an official account there, how can Dream control his Chinese fanbase? Furthermore, Dream antis here often bring up Lu BenWei and Xiao Zhan as the examples to explain Dream's behaviours because both of them are extremely hated in Bilibili. For the stans culture part, they compared Dream stans to Xiao Zhan's stans as both defend their own idol irrationally. And for the cheating part, they compared Dream to Lu BenWei because they both claimed they didn't cheat and manipulated their fans to do something harmful. Ultimately, they think Dream is a "combination of Xiao Zhan and Lu BenWei".
It is also noteworthy that misinformation is very common among these comments considering the meaning bias from translation errors, limited information access the Chinese audience has due to the Great Firewall of China and misinterpretations of the content creators. Heck, there are still some comments thinking that Dream doesn't care about Chinese audience which has already been debunked before.
Overall, most of these could have been resolved by telling correct, fast and objective facts to all audiences. Lastly, it is hoped that for all fans and haters, they can have more wise conversations and stop making wrong comparisons after knowing the whole situation, and for the content creators, they can provide an objective and optimistic guidance to the younger audience to reduce the unnecessary hate. In this way, it is sure that the drama will end very soon.

TL;DR​

  • Dream stans in Bilibili defend Dream as they believe what Dream said. Some of which think he apologized enough.
  • There is also another type of Dream stans that come from Douyin/Chinese Tik Tok which treat Dream like "God of Minecraft" and spam memes about Dream in other non-Dream related Minecraft videos.
  • Some of the Dream antis criticized Dream with the reasons of the bad takes in this incident, not admitting to cheating and being unable to control his fanbases including the Chinese one. They also strongly feel gross towards Dream stans spamming "Dream moments" when somebody else does Minecraft MLG or mentioning Dream in other Minecraft videos.
  • Misinformed and misleading comments or conclusions by some people and content creators are seen.
 
The reason he hasn’t had a thread is he is a faggot, but boring and predictable.

Besides his “America deserved 9/11,” he doesn’t do much besides be a degenerate on the internet and being a moralfag on every talking point that the socialists want to work up.
I will have to agree, the only noteworthy thing about Hasan is this and being spammed on /pol/ by bots so the retards reply to it giving the site more traffic.
 
So many nosy bitches... Don’t worry guys, someone else is currently doing research and a dox will come soon.
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Daniel Jacobs.
Half Dox is here. No address (getting a minor's address is a pain in the ass), but face and full name. I found this information with the help of others - a friend brought to my attention worldcubeassociation.org, where there was a Rubik's Cube competition he had signed onto with miner8012@icloud.com. Using that email, I signed onto his account on the website using the password matt3131.
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The account can still be found here (Archive). I have a couple of ideas for what his address could be, but I don't want to give a false dox and end up having a horde of stans show up at some poor soul's door.
Daniel Jacobs
Went to Vacaville Christian School
No address or phone number yet :(
Gay Reading List (someone beat me to the archive)
Daniel Jacobs worldcubeassociation.com
MaxPreps Account. Wouldn't fucking archive. Also says he graduates 2022, but he claimed he graduated recently, meaning his "graduation" was just him leaving school, or something I don't know yet.
Reddit Account
Facebook post
Twitter post
All linked videos are archived, just don't wanna go through the pain of uploading them.
-check 6:15 for him here
I'm only posting his info in this thread because people are shitting it up with asks for his face and name. He is relevant to Clay as well, since he is only "famous" because of him.
 
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Daniel Jacobs.
Half Dox is here. No address (getting a minor's address is a pain in the ass), but face and full name. I found this information with the help of others - a friend brought to my attention worldcubeassociation.org, where there was a Rubik's Cube competition he had signed onto with miner8012@icloud.com. Using that email, I signed onto his account on the website using the password matt3131.
The account can still be found here (Archive). I have a couple of ideas for what his address could be, but I don't want to give a false dox and end up having a horde of stans show up at some poor soul's door.
Daniel Jacobs
Went to Vacaville Christian School
No address or phone number yet :(
Gay Reading List (someone beat me to the archive)
Daniel Jacobs worldcubeassociation.com
MaxPreps Account. Wouldn't fucking archive. Also says he graduates 2022, but he claimed he graduated recently, meaning his "graduation" was just him leaving school, or something I don't know yet.
Reddit Account
Facebook post
Twitter post
All linked videos are archived, just don't wanna go through the pain of uploading them.
-check 6:15 for him here
I'm only posting his info in this thread because people are shitting it up with asks for his face and name. He is relevant to Clay as well, since he is only "famous" because of him.
Damn this is some scary/sad shit

You should probably put this under one of those private filter thingies
 
Could someone please explain to me about Ranboo and his relation (importance?) to Dream. Also, is that his dox?
Kid that got famous orbiting the DreamSMP. Dream took a likeing to him and added him to the server. Not worth doxxing or thread worthy imo. More of victim of circumstance being surrounded by the same if not more crazy stans dream has
 
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