Clayton Ray Huff / Dream / DreamOnPvP / DreamTraps / DreamAF / DreamXD / DeltaKnight / DreamSkilful / Clayman23 - Fat Minecraft Youtuber with fans that want to torture and rape him and are in denial that he's fat.

Is JacobTMK the Fatman?

  • Yes! It's a deadringer!

    Votes: 305 13.2%
  • No! That's Dream!

    Votes: 1,713 74.1%
  • It's neither of them!

    Votes: 295 12.8%

  • Total voters
    2,313
This except Hasan isnt even consistent in his own ideology. Hes casually racist and engages in other thought excercise he himself would deem as "reactionary" all the time and his audience defends vehemently because, like with all good petty dictators, hes abused his audience to the point where hes driven anyone thats not completely devoted to him away.
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*sperging out about troons*
Hell, he literally defended one of his streamer buddies saying nigga but wont let Dream off the hook for playing Minecraft with Notch, the guy that created the fucking game in the first place (what Minecraft player wouldn't jump at that opportunity?). This is totally just a power trip for Hasan, he likes excerting influence and controlling people in whichever way he can, which is probably why even his whore pornstar ex couldn't stand being with him anymore.
Yes, I agree 100%. People like Hasan, and Dream for that matter, are hypocrites cut from the same cloth. People who crave the power that appealing to the status quo can bring, in order to deify themselves, to make up for their own pathetic non-existence. They have no end goals, they have no original thoughts of their own, they have slogans and cutesy messages of "love and tolerance" which they themselves would loathe to abide themselves. If Hasan, for example, was a tolerant man, then he wouldn't give a fuck whether Dream or anyone else interacted with Notch. These people think they can parade around, and ironically - seeing as they'd claim to be against such actions - try to control what everyone else ought to think and do with no greater goal in mind other than control and their own moral aggrandizement. "Lust for power" is a trope, yet it seems apt to describe both Hasan and Dream. Both have money, it would appear, so there seems to be little need to parade around trying to appear the most politically conscious at all times. It's not enough to just be that way, they have to be seen doing it, and make it apart of their career. This makes me think power and influence have much more of an impact on their motives than simply trying to "be a good person" (hardly).

The funny (in a way) and insufferable thing about seeing Dream and Hasan talk to each other, is that you're watching men who are largely the same. Two people who thrive off of appeals to their own self righteousness, and the approval they wallow in with relish from any lowlife retard that will give them the time of day. To see two such people attempt to one up over each other in a battle of self-righteousness is funny because they're so self-centred, only one can possibly win. If Hasan were to admit that Dream was fine to talk to Notch, then he'd be conceding that his point is ethereal, and serves to do nothing more than morally grandstand. Dream on the other hand, cannot defend talking to Notch, because then Hasan would weave a narrative in which Dream has to defend someone who's "antisemitic" and not as anti-white as Hasan thinks is tolerable etc.

What happens when an immovable object (Hasan's stupidity) and an unstoppable force (Dream and his barely legal mentally ill hordes of female fans) meet each other? I don't know because I could barely tolerate a few minutes of that shit. Click to any point in the video, and you'll see Hasan just calling everyone a Nazi, which I personally find quite insulting, albeit not for the reasons most people would find it insulting.

Dream comes off as blatantly insincere and try-hardish in his attempt to use modern political and social attitudes to his own advantage. Hasan comes across as the kind of person who thinks they're an intellectual that sincerely believes in whatever is going to be the most radical, yet safe, political dogma he can possibly use to browbeat his way into the upper echelons of the social strata. Simply because the man views himself much too highly, and lacks any modesty. How do you prove you're better than everyone else? Be more radical and insistent than them of course, and shame those who aren't as retarded as you. I think that for all his bravado, if Hasan were to find himself on the streets of Russia, or any part of Eastern Europe where you'll find real Fascists and National-Socialists roaming about willing to give you a good beating, he'd piss his pants and shirk any sort of confrontation. In other words, I think he's a lot of tough talk, with not a lot of conviction behind what he says. This is evidenced by how be backed down after saying the United States "deserved" 9/11. The fucker couldn't double down on what he said because it would've destroyed his image, it was pushing the envelope, and so he weaselled out of it.
 
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Yes, I agree 100%. People like Hasan, and Dream for that matter, are hypocrites cut from the same cloth. People who crave the power that appealing to the status quo can bring, in order to deify themselves, to make up for their own pathetic non-existence. They have no end goals, they have no original thoughts of their own, they have slogans and cutesy messages of "love and tolerance" which they themselves would loathe to abide themselves. If Hasan, for example, was a tolerant man, then he wouldn't give a fuck whether Dream or anyone else interacted with Notch. These people think they can parade around, and ironically - seeing as they'd claim to be against such actions - try to control what everyone else ought to think and do with no greater goal in mind other than control and their own moral aggrandizement. "Lust for power" is a trope, yet it seems apt to describe both Hasan and Dream. Both have money, it would appear, so there seems to be little need to parade around trying to appear the most politically conscious at all times. It's not enough to just be that way, they have to be seen doing it, and make it apart of their career. This makes me think power and influence have much more of an impact on their motives than simply trying to "be a good person" (hardly).

The funny (in a way) and insufferable thing about seeing Dream and Hasan talk to each other, is that you're watching men who are largely the same. Two people who thrive off of appeals to their own self righteousness, and the approval they wallow in with relish from any lowlife retard that will give them the time of day. To see two such people attempt to one up over each other in a battle of self-righteousness is funny because they're so self-centred, only one can possibly win. If Hasan were to admit that Dream was fine to talk to Notch, then he'd be conceding that his point is ethereal, and serves to do nothing more than morally grandstand. Dream on the other hand, cannot defend talking to Notch, because then Hasan would weave a narrative in which Dream has to defend someone who's "antisemitic" and not as anti-white as Hasan thinks is tolerable etc.

What happens when an immovable object (Hasan's stupidity) and an unstoppable force (Dream and his barely legal mentally ill hordes of female fans) meet each other? I don't know because I could barely tolerate a few minutes of that shit. Click to any point in the video, and you'll see Hasan just calling everyone a Nazi, which I personally find quite insulting, albeit not for the reasons most people would find it insulting.

Dream comes off as blatantly insincere and try-hardish in his attempt to use modern political and social attitudes to his own advantage. Hasan comes across as the kind of person who thinks they're an intellectual that sincerely believes in whatever is going to be the most radical, yet safe, political dogma he can possibly use to browbeat his way into the upper echelons of the social strata. Simply because the man views himself much too highly, and lacks any modesty. How do you prove you're better than everyone else? Be more radical and insistent than them of course, and shame those who aren't as retarded as you. I think that for all his bravado, if Hasan were to find himself on the streets of Russia, or any part of Eastern Europe where you'll find real Fascists roaming about willing to give you a good beating, he'd piss his pants and shirk any sort of confrontation. In other words, I think he's a lot of tough talk, with not a lot of conviction behind what he says. This is evidenced by how be backed down after saying the United States "deserved" 9/11. The fucker couldn't double down on what he said because it would've destroyed his image, it was pushing the envelope, and so he weaselled out of it.
I think what makes it funny and awkward to watch is the contrasts between them. Hasan is late in his career, with his following built off his former media successes, while Dream is early in his. Hasan's community is explicitly politically focused, while Dream's ostensibly avoids politics beyond typical minority acceptance stuff.

I don't know a lot about Hasan, but I can only assume that like everywhere else online, particularly in leftist commentary circles, he'll engage in radicalness pissing contests. Provoking controversy is certainly one of his goals. That's definitely why he kept prodding Dream about conservative views, and ended on the bombshell of calling Israel a fascist ethnostate.

Dream's goal is avoiding controversy, basically trying to smooth out once again acting impulsively. He's not really well-versed in wider online political discourse, having only really debated probably fairly simplistic ideological points like muh freedom of speech with people like BBH and Red who he mentioned in the video. Dream can tell he's being played, but is totally ill-equipped to handle it.

If he were a little older, he'd probably know more about the whole political culture war that erupted online after gamergate and tumblrism etc etc, enough to know to steer well clear of it all.
 
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Why the fuck do people watch this religiously, it's Minecraft. Why is he being idolized like Jim Morrison?

I just cannot comprehend.
It's been a long pandemic.
I think what makes it funny and awkward to watch is the contrasts between them. Hasan is late in his career, with his following built off his former media successes, while Dream is early in his. Hasan's community is explicitly politically focused, while Dream's ostensibly avoids politics beyond typical minority acceptance stuff.

I don't know a lot about Hasan, but I can only assume that like everywhere else online, particularly in leftist commentary circles, he'll engage in radicalness pissing contests. Provoking controversy is certainly one of his goals. That's definitely why he kept prodding Dream about conservative views, and ended on the bombshell of calling Israel a fascist ethnostate.

Dream's goal is avoiding controversy, basically trying to smooth out once again acting impulsively. He's not really well-versed in wider online political discourse, having only really debated probably fairly simplistic ideological points like muh freedom of speech with people like BBH and Red who he mentioned in the video. Dream can tell he's being played, but is totally ill-equipped to handle it.

If he were a little older, he'd probably know more about the whole political culture war that erupted online after gamergate and tumblrism etc etc, enough to know to steer well clear of it all.
There's a recurring issue with a lot of these streamers and them being under 25. Your behavior is still developing up to and even past 25, and being fed different conflicting perspectives, on top of being in your own bubble, is a dangerous combination. Moreso when you want clout, so you'll say anything.
 
Fuckwad this u?

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Exactly. It's pretty unsurprising that his info is quite accessible seeing as though he's a kid that doesn't have any experience of the Internet beyond tumblr and twitter. His only crimes are being cringe and being unwilling to set limits with his audience, however since he's a teenager with anxiety living around... Interesting stuff, it's easy to see why. But yeah I'm not going to doxx him publically there's no benefit, he's literally a high schooler with success he doesn't know how to handle, not an actual shitty person like Dream.

I also found Ranboo's name/face/other info a few weeks back, it's not hidden very well since he accidentally leaked his own info in the past on an old account. However, I don't think it's worth publicly doxxing the kid as he's not really done anything lol-worthy yet apart from being a bit of a pussy and having stans he's terrified of. Dude's just an awkward highschooler who made cringe tiktoks and wormed his way into playing minecraft with his idols and is trying to cope with an army of bloodthirsty teens. He seems to be a decent person otherwise, I don't see him pulling anything crazy manipulative narc-tier like Clayton any time soon. That's just me though.
As a nosy bitch, feel free to share it in private message (I don't want to dox him either, I am just extremely curious).
 
It's been a long pandemic.

There's a recurring issue with a lot of these streamers and them being under 25. Your behavior is still developing up to and even past 25, and being fed different conflicting perspectives, on top of being in your own bubble, is a dangerous combination. Moreso when you want clout, so you'll say anything.
The only one in their bubble over 25 is BBH But since, as mentioned in previous posts, he was a churchhead and probably autistic, he's the last person you'd expect to be clued up on modern online culture and negotiating your way through it.
 
I also found Ranboo's name/face/other info a few weeks back, it's not hidden very well since he accidentally leaked his own info in the past on an old account. However, I don't think it's worth publicly doxxing the kid as he's not really done anything lol-worthy yet apart from being a bit of a pussy and having stans he's terrified of. Dude's just an awkward highschooler who made cringe tiktoks and wormed his way into playing minecraft with his idols and is trying to cope with an army of bloodthirsty teens. He seems to be a decent person otherwise, I don't see him pulling anything crazy manipulative narc-tier like Clayton any time soon. That's just me though.
I'm curious too.
 
I’m not saying everyone else’s criticism of Hasan is incorrect but from what I can tell he was mostly just bringing up the Notch video to bait Dream’s far more insanely obsessively leftist stans. Might get shit for this but Hasan’s a pretty smart guy at least branding-wise, the fact he hasn’t had a thread here (before now) despite being a popular twitch streamer and an ex-Young Turk says a lot.

Also agreeing that I’d like to see Ranboo’s dox.
 
the fact he hasn’t had a thread here (before now) despite being a popular twitch streamer and an ex-Young Turk says a lot.
The reason he hasn’t had a thread is he is a faggot, but boring and predictable.

Besides his “America deserved 9/11,” he doesn’t do much besides be a degenerate on the internet and being a moralfag on every talking point that the socialists want to work up.
 
I’m not saying everyone else’s criticism of Hasan is incorrect but from what I can tell he was mostly just bringing up the Notch video to bait Dream’s far more insanely obsessively leftist stans. Might get shit for this but Hasan’s a pretty smart guy at least branding-wise, the fact he hasn’t had a thread here (before now) despite being a popular twitch streamer and an ex-Young Turk says a lot.

Also agreeing that I’d like to see Ranboo’s dox.
Yeah, he pretty much says what his intentions are when he mentions Dream's fanbase being allies who'd probably call him out if he expressed right wing views "which isn't even always a bad thing!"

The only reason they're talking in the first place is the understanding that if Dream didn't resolve things with Hasan, his fanbase would probably harass him. So it's not unreasonable to assume he's trying to place his own narratives in the mouths of Dream's fanbase and exploit Dream's fear of them turning on him, especially if they were to take an issue with any right wing beliefs he may currently or formerly hold.
 
I also found Ranboo's name/face/other info a few weeks back, it's not hidden very well since he accidentally leaked his own info in the past on an old account. However, I don't think it's worth publicly doxxing the kid as he's not really done anything lol-worthy yet apart from being a bit of a pussy and having stans he's terrified of. Dude's just an awkward highschooler who made cringe tiktoks and wormed his way into playing minecraft with his idols and is trying to cope with an army of bloodthirsty teens. He seems to be a decent person otherwise, I don't see him pulling anything crazy manipulative narc-tier like Clayton any time soon. That's just me though.
Exactly. It's pretty unsurprising that his info is quite accessible seeing as though he's a kid that doesn't have any experience of the Internet beyond tumblr and twitter. His only crimes are being cringe and being unwilling to set limits with his audience, however since he's a teenager with anxiety living around... Interesting stuff, it's easy to see why. But yeah I'm not going to doxx him publically there's no benefit, he's literally a high schooler with success he doesn't know how to handle, not an actual shitty person like Dream.
I'm sorry but what even was the point of even bringing up that you were able to find his info if you're just gonna pretend to be all virtuous about it? It was more or less irrelevant to the conversation and all you've done is shine more attention onto it especially by mentioning how "easy it was to find". Surely you had to have realized that the other autists on here (including myself) were gonna be more inclined go looking for it? Not the best course of action if you're trying to protect an "innocent, inexperienced kid".

Anyways, if Dream still keeps up with this thread, he should tell Ranboo to scrub his name off of that cube website and delete all his old youtube videos with his face. It's the least Dream could do atp, considering how he's already screwed his entire friend group over.
 
I'm sorry but what even was the point of even bringing up that you were able to find his info if you're just gonna pretend to be all virtuous about it? It was more or less irrelevant to the conversation and all you've done is shine more attention onto it especially by mentioning how "easy it was to find". Surely you had to have realized that the other autists on here (including myself) were gonna be more inclined go looking for it? Not the best course of action if you're trying to protect an "innocent, inexperienced kid".

Anyways, if Dream still keeps up with this thread, he should tell Ranboo to scrub his name off of that cube website and delete all his old youtube videos with his face. It's the least Dream could do atp, considering how he's already screwed his entire friend group over.
The point is, the information is out there and it's easily found so if any other autists really want to know, and would like to go look for it and share it then that's up to their discretion. I just don't want to be the one to pull that trigger. I'm not here to dox any of Dream's friends, I only care about finding out just how much of a fat rat bastard he is lol. I don't have anything against any of the children he plays with and I won't gain anything from posting it except some forum clout. There's no edgy past or dark secrets or anything juicy there, literally just a child who likes a block game.
 
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