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I agree with you in that I think the pressure put by psychologists and libtard society-at-large on AGPs' wives to validate them as 'women' is absurd and arguably amounts to gaslighting.
But maybe if society actually got honest about AGP and acknowledged its existence, fewer gender-dysphoric males would either repress and lie to women, or decompensate and act in the ways we call troon-ish.
Compromise shouldn't necessarily have to involve the AGP EVER crossdressing in front of his wife or indeed anyone else. There actually are people with gender dysphoria - including AGPs - who are compos mentis and capable of honesty and mature give and take in their friendships and relationships with actual women. I would give Debbie Hayton and Miranda Yardley as examples. You just don't see these people, because the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
I think probably the best option is to be open in society about AGPs, to hold up the compos mentis ones as positive role models, but to be open and firm about the fact that heterosexual women and lesbians aren't usually attracted to them, and to encourage and support AGPs to seek out and support each other.
Mmm, I doubt. In a way those 'sensible' troons are still using the underlying institution to live out their fantasy even if they're honest about it. They're still validated by their psychologist, endocrinologists, surgeons, lawyers and bureaucrats to be true wahmens. They system is made to cater to them because it makes money. That's the reason why troonism fly at a today. For an AGP At one point crossdressing in front of their wives will stop giving them any pleasures, and if the world has made a illusion beyond crossdressing possible in institutional level - that is, trooning out, they'll inevitably do it if we support them that way.
It might be, in some way, better if society acknowledge the existence of AGP. But acknowledging doesn't mean we have to give into it. It's a fetish, you can make the discussion as open as you want. No one should give in and validate their fantasy - and we'll better get these people to accept the impossibility, because life isn't always kind. Stop cooming too much and accept you'll always be a man.
There's a reason why I think Truscum and 'self aware' troons are more dangerous than the totally lunatic ones. Because they can make people feel safe enough to put guards down, that they can slowly asking more and more from the system to cater to their need. Until we're round back into clown world we're in now.
You don't go for proper radfem site for memes or any good tranny critical discussion there. Any TERF-specific 'reddit' style sites, 4thwave and Mumsnet types are filled with concerned, boring moms, and equally loony virtue signallers and humourless woko harams. This is known even in terf hive like the other lolcow farm (which churned out a number of quality content)Real women aren’t that funny or demented. And I don’t think literally any woman, not even TERFs, knows what a “hon”, “manmoder”, or “repping” is
I've seen TERF "memes" on Ovarit and they're either image macros straight out of 2010 or the unironic embodiment of this image
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Somehow I actually do agree with some points there, most detransitioners have zero accountability. They're still narcs that blame everyone for their own decision. r/Detrans particularly, like to tell recently detrooners who were not dealing well with their guilt to shift blame it on doctors and their moms instead.The Ftm troons don't like what they see on r/detrans.
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But having no personal accountability is probably a trait you need to have to troon out in the first place.
Would it be insane to say that, a big part of gender ideology is no different from a fashion trend?
Mst troons and detrooners think that their bodies are like Lego pieces, you can remove and swap around parts at will - and there's no difference between real breasts and a silicone. If you tired of being an aiden? Just get a boob job and it's done. You see this kind of thinking with influencers and deathfats/ex-deathfats too. Where cosmetic surgery is an answer to everything.
Cyberpunk isn't so much fun in reality.
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