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Here, allow me to translate for you.

Wedge: "The subtle aquamarine twill in the Emperor's new clothes is probably the best thing about them."
Other Crazy People: "Uh, I'm sorry, how dare you suggest there is any aquamarine whatsoever in the Emperor's new clothes? That is lèse-majesté, and a crime against fashion."
Wedge: seething
OCP: dilating
All: coping
Based: the emperor has no clothes.
 
I agree with both of you, and I don't think you're actually disagreeing with one another really. There are definitional issues with the meanings of "gay"/"lesbian"/"bisexual". Not because the literal definitions are difficult to comprehend, but because they are difficult to objectively verify and therefore to apply consistently when you're an outside observer (i.e. if you're looking at someone else and trying to label their sexuality). Sexual orientation labels are inherently labels of behavioural motivation, rather than of a behaviour (or physical feature) itself, which makes them kind of slippery to apply to others.

Sex, race, some forms of disability etc. can all be relatively easily observed by another person, and therefore (with a brushing aside of issues of e.g. intersex and mixed-race people, how we define race, etc.) they're relatively uncomplicated to ascertain. If someone says "I'm male", I can look at them and say "no you're not, you've got a vagina". Similarly, for other types of disability or mental illness, if someone says "I have ADHD" I can check their behaviour against the behavioural diagnostic criteria for ADHD and make a (reasonably) objective decision about whether they're lying or not.

If a man says "I'm straight", I cannot look at them (or their behaviour) and say "no you're not, you have sex with men", because the definition of being a straight man is not 'never having sex with men' it's 'never being attracted to men' (which is an internal state of being, and therefore inaccessible to an observer). And whilst someone's behaviour (and self-reported internal state) can be a decent proxy for their "true" internal state, it's not the same thing.

A man who has sex with men may say "I'm straight", and be telling the truth; he's only having the sex because no one else is available, and he's imagining the other man is a woman the whole time, and is genuinely unattracted to his partner but 'making do' because he's horny. A man in an identical situation with identical behaviour may say "I'm straight" and be lying; he is attracted to his parter, but is in denial about it because internalised homophobia or whatever. How do I, an outside observer with no access to his internal state, say which is the case? Do I call this man gay, despite his self-reported sexual orientation, or do I call him straight, despite his observable same-sex sexual behaviours? (There's a reason sociologists often use the term "men who have sex with men"/"MSM", especially when discussing e.g. STD risks which are linked to sexual behaviour, not sexual orientation. No one in an academic environment wants to try making this call lmao.) Similarly, a woman who has never dated another woman and is in a happy opposite-sex marriage might say "I'm bisexual" and have it be true because she is attracted to both men and women; a woman in the same situation might say "I'm bisexual" and have it be false, because she isn't actually attracted to women and just wants to look trendy to her Bay Area friends; a woman in the same situation might say "I'm straight", and be lying, because she is attracted to women but in denial about it. Again, how the fuck do I know?

In all of these cases, I as an external observer likely have some evidence available to guide me in an educated guess as to whether the person is lying or telling the truth (e.g. past behaviour, things they've said, whether they're in a homophobic environment or not), but I cannot actually say for certain. That's where the definitional issues come in - especially when, as in the cases above, the available evidence is contradictory (i.e. people saying one thing and doing another). What do we call someone who performs same-sex sex acts, denies same-sex attraction, and who we suspect may be lying? What do we call someone who does not perform same-sex sex acts, claims same-sex attraction, and who we suspect might be lying? How do we arbitrate objectively on someone's subjective(-ish) internal experience?

This is, by the way, why science/academic environments often use weird tiptoe-y labels for stuff. Because they don't trust people to be honest (a lot of evidence shows people lie about or just straight-up don't understand their own internal states), but a lot of the ways we group people rely on internal states that researchers don't actually have direct access to. And so, the vaguely pomo language that's designed to either a) explicitly only describe someone's behaviour, or b) explicitly only describe someone's reported self-identity, to avoid the researcher having to make a call about whether the person is "lying" or not. This works okay in academia, because it's understood within this context of "hedging your bets" in order to accurately describe the group you're looking at; works poorly when it's exported into the regular world by psych undergrads with a twitter and delusions of intelligence, because it overcomplicates day-to-day shit to an unnecessary degree.

Respectfully disagree. If you're a dude and rather would fuck/be fucked by a dude than jack off, nigga you gay. Or at least bi.
 
Literally the only reason they want to be called lesbians is because that is exclusively a woman thing.
This. Arguing over the definitions of 'bisexual' and 'lesbian' is moot to the discussion of Kevin, because he's not adopting the label in good faith. He's adopting it to get access to puss-puss while also giving himself another community to hide in.

If Kevin thought claiming to be a straight Christian trad girl would get him pussy, he'd do it.
 
Literally the only reason they want to be called lesbians is because that is exclusively a woman thing.
I fully believe this and anything that ONLY women have is something they wish to covet. If women had nothing to themselves not even a room of her own, sadly the time commeth again soon lassies where troons troonify it then they would have no copes
This. Arguing over the definitions of 'bisexual' and 'lesbian' is moot to the discussion of Kevin, because he's not adopting the label in good faith. He's adopting it to get access to puss-puss while also giving himself another community to hide in.

If Kevin thought claiming to be a straight Christian trad girl would get him pussy, he'd do it.

Doesn't he only fuck other scrote troons?
 
I don't know if you shopped it or not, but he looks like hes 80 in this photo.

He's mildly shooped to look more like an out-of-it doofus. Originally his appearance was meant to be "down-ish", but I scrapped that when he looked like a Chinese halfwit instead.

His skin is contrast-boosted to make crevices and blemishes stand out. While he ordinarily doesn't look 80, his face is already a wreck (as S.C.U.D. regularly demonstrates).

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Well, if he wants to be seen as a little girl, he's got the childish behavior down to a T
 
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Has no one ever asked him why, as a woman, he's exclusively into boy shit?
 
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With two sexes (1,2) there are 4 possible configurations, ie straight(1), gay(2), bisexual(both 1 and 2), and then I guess you can throw in asexual (neither 1 nor 2), though I'm not fully convinced yet that that is a natural thing that happens vs. just being a result of trauma or even just being vanilla and not into the degenerate shit society is being groomed to accept.
It honestly makes sense if asexuality is natural. The existence of sexual attraction occurs naturally in humans via genetics, so it's very plausible that a human would get the genetic oopsie that made them lack such attraction. That being said, it's probably rare as fuck, because if you have too many with that mutation then the specie's population would decine (not happening in humans) and those with the mutation aren't obviously less likely to reproduce and can't pass on the mutation.

I personally think that most cases of bisexuality, especially in women, is a result of nuture because we just sexualize the female body so damn much that women start to subconsciously connect it to sexual arousal. I don't the the arousal manifests itself the same way that male arousal does though. I would say the same for lesbianism and gayness, but I'm not deep enough in those communities to make a judgment.
 
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I'm going to be contrarian and say that there are some definitional problems in gay, straight, lesbian, and bi that have plagued these labels for decades.

Is being gay who you are or is being gay what you do? Or some combination of both? Or something else entirely?

For example, HIV/AIDS workers and researchers have struggled for a while with the fact that a lot of men (particularly Latinos and blacks) don't identify as gay and would be OUTRAGED if you suggested they were gay, but they still fuck other dudes. In some cultures, you're only gay if you're the bottom. Some straight boys fool around with other boys in school but it's more through horniness or experimentation than preference. Some man whores might identify as straight but fuck men for pay. Some men might be married to and have monogamous sex with a woman for decades but still be gay. There are tons of virginal, celibate gay priests. There are boys who are too young to experience sexual attraction but who are still unquestionably going to grow up to identify as gay.

Most (but not all!) of these point to gayness being an identity more than a behavior. However, a few years ago a chick who was claiming to be bi became president of a school gay club but then it emerged that she had only ever dated men, and I agree with the people who thought that she should resign because she didn't have the lived experience of a gay person.

None of this is put forth to validate any of Wedge's pomo tossed word salad, my sperg humour is flowing strong tonight and I needed to tap it.
In the end, gay is gay, bi is bi, lesbian is lesbian, and Wedge is trying pathetically to call the color red green while everyone tries to correct him.
 
Kevin woke up feeling absolutely euphoric and heckin' valid this morning.
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And who wouldn't be euphoric when surrounded by lovely ladies like these?
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Furfag-to-troon pipeline confirmed.
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The fact that they (AGPs in general) treat feminimity like such a novelty shows that it's all a fetishized performance. Normal women don't wake up and think "ahhh being a girl tho uwu" it's just fucking normal. These people are hyper-focused on shit normal people don't think about.
 
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Posing his toys in an embrace and thinking ones a lesbo? Jesus Mary and Joseph that's something I'd expect from Chris.
 
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