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Takodachi said:
Yeah this isnt Aloe's case where Cover threw her under the bus.
After everything Cover sacrificed to keep her, I'm inclined to believe this is Coco's own decision.

We'll have to wait and see if anyone else graduates in the near future, if that happens, the it means Cover is fucking it up and its time to jump ship.
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Sure, "sacrifices"...
 
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Rezza said:
Oh God, I just relized Coco's last live will be on 1st of July. That's way too long to burden the pain and rrats flying around. And there's also chances the other members will use that time to think about their future in Holo as well, possibly leading to others graduation
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the thing im thinking of esp regarding FBK word if cover messed up or something she will leave, it may not a sudden if it turned out true. she may hold grudge and make that as one of point if she should continue or not.

but just seeing coco news make more chance that even the biggest holomem can graduate anytime, number and bank aint the problem. it still sad but i guess enjoy while it last is the only think we can do
 
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Town Drunk said:
I'm not gonna start on the Cover hate train yet, but if they actually did throw her under the bus then I'm done with them. Obviously have to wait for more info, if it ever actually appears, Japanese culture being what it is. However, in the meantime we can see what happens. If talent starts leaving en mass, etc. then we will have some evidence.
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"Shit for brains"

Coco previously posted a message like this to call Cover a shitty Black company after her suspension.
 
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Yukihirou Mk II said:
finally re-enter their Chinese market to gain their loss (like collabartion events with Chinese mobile games and streaming on Bililbili)
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They cant be this moronic, they want to go back to that fucking shithole that treat them like garbage? pressing big x there
 
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Yukihirou Mk II said:
I'll just leave this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3T57HYEvV4
Some translation by user Hoshizora111


From my knowledge, basically you can blame COVER for being useless on protecting Coco from the antis
1:21~ Cover's management/sponsors have contained Chinese which have hated Coco (as a American) from the very start of her debut, and some minors things that triggers their discontent like Coco being unwilling to schedulely stream on Bilibili
1:54 ~ the start of Patriotic Chinese' attack on Coco because Youtube statistic shown Taiwan as a country. Coco want to stream a apology video as soon as possible but it is STOPPED INTERANLLY by Cover because similar situations have happened before like Aqua and Pekora, which Cover have promised to teach their talents about sensitive political knowledge about China to prevent this happened again, therefore if Coco did apologize as soon as possible, Cover would look like they didnt' teach their talents and appease their Chinese sponsors/ management at all.
3:11 ~ Another evidence supporting Cover's attitude on appeasing their China counterparts, which promised to accept "One China policy"
3:58~ More evidence showing that Coco is being bullied and boycotted inside by Cover's management (Not Holomem, I think they are genuinely supporting Coco), so that Cover can appease the Chinese again and return to Bilibili. Evidence like being spammed in chat room without any help, forbidding any collaborations within Coco and HoloEN
4:36 ~ More evidence. Cover's website would celebrate their talents' 1million subscribers usually, but all of them have been posted on their website EXCEPT Coco. Not until some fans being skeptical about this, Cover finally post the celebration (after like, 2 months). Moreover, Coco have never been appeared in the official channel (those animation on Sunday) ever after.
5:08 ~ The most serious issue, which when Coco hand over the antis list for Cover to block, they "accidentally" (intentionally) set the list as moderators but not the blacklist, which caused many members from Coco's channel have been banned (remember that time Coco can't held anymore and kanata came to comfort her? this was the reason behind that)
6:05 ~ Reasons why they want to boycott Coco. They want Coco to be the one who voluntarily graduate so that Cover would look less guilty. Once Coco have graduated they can finally re-enter their Chinese market to gain their loss (like collabartion events with Chinese mobile games and streaming on Bililbili) Sorry for my poor translation, you can ask questions below. (please upvote to let more kaigai nikkis to see this!) Also please remember Coco's only wish that, don't disturb other holomems for this issues! Thank you
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Now that I have a bit of clearer head, this is old news and a bit contradictory with the reality. They burned an entire division for Coco for fuck sake.
I still gonna put some of trust on the rrat she finally got her collab with EN because she's going to retire, however
 
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AkioDayo said:
youtube-dl doesn't work on member-only streams, neither does 9convert. I'm gonna go insane over the next few days doing this archiving.
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I've downloaded member streams before. I think you need to log in with your browser and copy the cookies into a file for youtube-dl to read. There should be docs on the site, if you're lost I can help out in a couple hours.
 
Okay, so Narukami atm is the most likely talker on even a plausible rrat. Can anyone please say they'll watch his stream and get it translated?
 
Eddie IX said:
I've downloaded member streams before. I think you need to log in with your browser and copy the cookies into a file for youtube-dl to read. There should be docs on the site, if you're lost I can help out in a couple hours.
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Thanks! Will need some guide or something. Fuck this is gonna distract me from work for the next 2-3 days, having this at the back of my mind
 
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X-avier cuck said:
If what Jp keemstar said is true than this may be the beginning of the end.
They more or less used our dragon as a sacrificial lamb to get back in good with the Chinese.
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Then you know what, we be Kiwis. We don't touch the cows, we'll let /vt/ do it. This is /vt/'s chance to be useful if we get any of those Chinks back.
 
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Yukihirou Mk II said:
I'll just leave this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3T57HYEvV4
Some translation by user Hoshizora111


From my knowledge, basically you can blame COVER for being useless on protecting Coco from the antis
1:21~ Cover's management/sponsors have contained Chinese which have hated Coco (as a American) from the very start of her debut, and some minors things that triggers their discontent like Coco being unwilling to schedulely stream on Bilibili
1:54 ~ the start of Patriotic Chinese' attack on Coco because Youtube statistic shown Taiwan as a country. Coco want to stream a apology video as soon as possible but it is STOPPED INTERANLLY by Cover because similar situations have happened before like Aqua and Pekora, which Cover have promised to teach their talents about sensitive political knowledge about China to prevent this happened again, therefore if Coco did apologize as soon as possible, Cover would look like they didnt' teach their talents and appease their Chinese sponsors/ management at all.
3:11 ~ Another evidence supporting Cover's attitude on appeasing their China counterparts, which promised to accept "One China policy"
3:58~ More evidence showing that Coco is being bullied and boycotted inside by Cover's management (Not Holomem, I think they are genuinely supporting Coco), so that Cover can appease the Chinese again and return to Bilibili. Evidence like being spammed in chat room without any help, forbidding any collaborations within Coco and HoloEN
4:36 ~ More evidence. Cover's website would celebrate their talents' 1million subscribers usually, but all of them have been posted on their website EXCEPT Coco. Not until some fans being skeptical about this, Cover finally post the celebration (after like, 2 months). Moreover, Coco have never been appeared in the official channel (those animation on Sunday) ever after.
5:08 ~ The most serious issue, which when Coco hand over the antis list for Cover to block, they "accidentally" (intentionally) set the list as moderators but not the blacklist, which caused many members from Coco's channel have been banned (remember that time Coco can't held anymore and kanata came to comfort her? this was the reason behind that)
6:05 ~ Reasons why they want to boycott Coco. They want Coco to be the one who voluntarily graduate so that Cover would look less guilty. Once Coco have graduated they can finally re-enter their Chinese market to gain their loss (like collabartion events with Chinese mobile games and streaming on Bililbili) Sorry for my poor translation, you can ask questions below. (please upvote to let more kaigai nikkis to see this!) Also please remember Coco's only wish that, don't disturb other holomems for this issues! Thank you
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I'm going to hold off on any assumption of what's going on for a while and assume the best. HOWEVER, if any of this is true, Cover vastly underestimates American's willingness to burn everything to the ground, including stuff they love, solely because of PURE SPITE.
 
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I'm going to sleep and for my peace of mind I'm just going to call all of you schizo and in my head canon Coco and Cover parted ways amicably, no string attached and no behind the scene reasons. She simply found something else she wants to do and decides her time as Coco is at its end and moves on happily.
And you should too because unless you see some concrete evident, all speculating about China and Cover's management is just distractingly moving the thread for no real substance.

AkioDayo said:
youtube-dl doesn't work on member-only streams, neither does 9convert. I'm gonna go insane over the next few days doing this archiving.
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Export your cookies which contains your youtube account that has access to membership. Run an addition command --cookies
 
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