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Interesting...

This Charles Lieber

lipid coating? I remember hearing about that.

So a guy works on an Alex Jones rant tier gizmo. Works with the Chinese then gets arrested when the pandemic starts. Later the nu-vacciness use a similar tech as their basis to deliver their load.

I guess a big part of the MemeFlu scare was about giving early biotech a dot com bubble style cash infusion. Imagine forcing the population to beta test a potential trillion dollar tech.
Charles Lieber claimed he was working on nanotech for batteries in China. His colleagues thought this was odd, because he's never actually worked on batteries before. All of his nanotechnology involved "nanobiotechnology". That is, integrating nanotech with living cells. His specialty is the manufacture of tiny, kinked silicon nanowires that act as transistorized probes small enough to poke right into an individual human cell, record its interior activity, and perhaps even modify their behavior. His papers describe using silicon nanowires for brain-computer interfaces, much akin to Elon Musk's Neuralink.

He's a close colleague of Robert Langer, the founder of Moderna. They even worked on a paper together with Daniel S. Kohane in 2012, to create artificial scaffolds for cyborgified heart muscle tissues.

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Who's pushing transhumanism, brain-computer interfaces, and integration of tech into the human body? Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum.


 
Charles Lieber claimed he was working on nanotech for batteries in China. His colleagues thought this was odd, because he's never actually worked on batteries before. All of his nanotechnology involved "nanobiotechnology". That is, integrating nanotech with living cells. His specialty is the manufacture of tiny, kinked silicon nanowires that act as transistorized probes small enough to poke right into an individual human cell, record its interior activity, and perhaps even modify their behavior. His papers describe using silicon nanowires for brain-computer interfaces, much akin to Elon Musk's Neuralink.

He's a close colleague of Robert Langer, the founder of Moderna. They even worked on a paper together with Daniel S. Kohane in 2012, to create artificial scaffolds for cyborgified heart muscle tissues.

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Who's pushing transhumanism, brain-computer interfaces, and integration of tech into the human body? Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum.


Well put together. It is basically the
"You will become the bugs and you will like it" future.
 
So I was having a chat with my dad today, and he brought up the Cleveland study linked upthread that showed that vaccination provided no benefit to those that had already had the coof. He then said something to the effect of "I knew it all along, I said from the start that it wouldn't do anything if you already had it!"

This is the same man who immediately signed up to be a guinea pig for the experimental vaccines when he got the opportunity. The same man who got the coof just before Thanksgiving. The same man who, when he found out he got the placebo from the trials, got them to give him the actual vaccine as soon as he could, even though he'd already been infected and recovered.

I really, really had to resist the urge to ask him "if you seriously believed this from the start, why the fuck did you go and get the shot when you found out you had dodged a major bullet?" I also had to resist telling him off about pressuring my mom into getting the shot. The hardest of all was the urge to tell him I'd lied to his face about getting the shot (I caught the coof from him in the first place). If anyone in my family gets to be smug about this, it's me and only me.

Ah well, it wouldn't do me any good. The man's the most stubborn person I know, and he can never admit he got anything wrong. Better to just let him continue to wallow in his delusions. But if there do turn out to be major complications from this shit down the line, you better believe I'm gonna hold that over his head every fucking day.
 
Ah well, it wouldn't do me any good. The man's the most stubborn person I know, and he can never admit he got anything wrong. Better to just let him continue to wallow in his delusions. But if there do turn out to be major complications from this shit down the line, you better believe I'm gonna hold that over his head every fucking day.
Blood clots don't really afford much time to do that.
 
Blood clots don't really afford much time to do that.
Well, both he and my mom were given the shot a couple months ago, and neither of them had a major reaction to it to begin with, so I'm not too concerned at the moment. They also eat healthy and take vitamins daily, so if I'm reading what @Drain Todger has posted correctly, that might be helping them to avoid complications from the spike proteins. Cardiovascular disease doesn't run in the family either, so that's helpful.

I mean, if he wants to kill himself with experimental medicine, more power to him. But if my mom died from this shit after he more or less forced her to take it...I don't even want to think about how I'd react.

It's not fun to feel like you're the last sane man.
 
Good post, would read again.

Slightly off-topic but will end up on topic:

A lot of phenomenon we see today; be it the ADHD-like symptoms of SM, the increase in Trans/gays, carbon emissions/green energy and even our beloved flu are all connected in a way. It's not the evil jews or a plan to take over the planet, no, it's more simple; keep the consoomers consooming, while keeping profits ticking over.

ADHD and mental health 'awareness' hasn't increased the diagnosis rate of mental health issues. That's the tail wagging the dog. The rise in mental health issues is because of social media and the 'awareness' to normalise it, is to cover up the fact that SM+internet IS causing ADHD, Depression, Stress, Bi-polar etc at historically high rates.

Same with the trans stuff. BPA, acting like estrogen in the body, IS causing more males to turn gay - though not more females, which is why the MTF trans is astronomically higher than FTM. But we can't ban plastics, so they create a cover story.

Carbon emissions ARE screwing the planet, but we can't stop China and India because they need them to keep churning out the tat and shite that keeps Amazon afloat (ironic that Amazon need to kill the environment while called Amazon...)

Lastly we get to the Virus, to get us back on topic. The wu-flu and the vaccines are a cover for a bi-product of a process. I honestly don't know what that process is, yet. It could be to reduce fertility, it could be soften us up for UBI and the 'Wall-E' like world, it could be to bolster our immune system against the shite and chemicals used on mass produced food. And like the other examples, they need a cover story to keep the wheels turning.
Now that'd be a fun conspiracy theory. The enforced mass vaccination isn't to protect against the Coof but to remedy the health damage done by plastics or do other benevolent shit that they can't sell openly for some reason.
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Well put together. It is basically the
"You will become the bugs and you will like it" future.
Turns out Meshuggah's "Future Breed Machine" was a very prophetic song.
 
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Now that'd be a fun conspiracy theory. The enforced mass vaccination isn't to protect against the Coof but to remedy the health damage done by plastics or do other benevolent shit that they can't sell openly for some reason.
Covid is a cover story. Maybe to field test the new style vaccine, which if perfected, could theoretically cure cancer, ads and may be more. Or (and this is my firm belief) that the coof was MEANT to be a lot, lot, lot more severe but it turned out shite because, well, it's chinese made (or was sabotaged by the Americans to make it less deadly)

I also think Oil, when processed and burned, causes cancer
 
Styx bitchuted about Washington State who want to give joints to get vaccinated against corona-chan.
 
Even your chink friends?! Now, that changes everything!

Just stop.
Listen guys, this virus is sooper-cereal!
Didn't you see all the videos coming out of China of people falling over in the street? Or all the hospitals overflowing? Or how the virus turns you black?
We have to lockdown, mask-up, and get vaccinated like China did, its the only way to stop the virus (that is very serious and needs stopping!)
Look, here's a CCP simp journo article taking a pre-print study funded by Chink research bux with vague implications about how the sooper-cereal mega-doom virus can make you sterile!
Wow guys all my Chinese friends said this virus is mega-deadly doooooom! Better listen to them!

Anyways, why do you guys believe the Chinese? You are gullible ones who believe Chicom lies!

Styx bitchuted about Washington State who want to give joints to get vaccinated against corona-chan.
Because if there is one demographic who would never ever forge medical documentation, it's potheads.
 
It gets worse. Most people believe that the numbers are UNDER-reported as not to scare people. I haven't laughed (internally) like that for a while.
I believe that cases were under reported and deaths were over reported.

As far as deaths, ANYONE that tested positive for COVID counted as a death. 10 year battle with cancer? Multiple gunshot wounds? Covid deaths.

As far as cases, there were absolutely times where people just didn't get tested because they had no symptoms. Also probably due to contact tracing. There was a case my friends told me. So they got together on Sunday for football. On Wednesday, one of them announced that he tested positive for COVID. So the guy got a free COVID test on Friday because he was in direct contact. But his Mom that he lived with didn't have direct contact, so that would have cost $260, so she said fuck it. His test actually came back negative, but let;s pretend it came back positive. He got his result on Monday, so his Mom would have gotten to take the test for free. But she wouldn't have because by the time THAT result came back, it would have been 2 weeks passing anyway. So that would have been a "positive" case that just wasn't tested. I expect a lot of contact cases went untested like that, especially if they were asymptomatic.
 
I believe that cases were under reported and deaths were over reported.

As far as deaths, ANYONE that tested positive for COVID counted as a death. 10 year battle with cancer? Multiple gunshot wounds? Covid deaths.

As far as cases, there were absolutely times where people just didn't get tested because they had no symptoms. Also probably due to contact tracing. There was a case my friends told me. So they got together on Sunday for football. On Wednesday, one of them announced that he tested positive for COVID. So the guy got a free COVID test on Friday because he was in direct contact. But his Mom that he lived with didn't have direct contact, so that would have cost $260, so she said fuck it. His test actually came back negative, but let;s pretend it came back positive. He got his result on Monday, so his Mom would have gotten to take the test for free. But she wouldn't have because by the time THAT result came back, it would have been 2 weeks passing anyway. So that would have been a "positive" case that just wasn't tested. I expect a lot of contact cases went untested like that, especially if they were asymptomatic.
They were also marking untested deaths from respiratory distress and viral pneumonia as COVID deaths.

On the other side with unreported cases, I know anecdotally of a whole cluster of friends and family who caught it, only about 1/3rd to 1/2 of us were actually tested (the rest just assumed that similar illness + contact with positive case = had it, which is reasonable).
Even then, I don't know if I was ever an official reported case because I never clocked a positive PCR result and my antibody results came through OneBlood, and I don't know if/how they report their positive antibody findings.

This is why Case Fatality Rate is dubious in the case of a highly contagious, aerosolized but low-lethality virus, and Infection Lethality Rate is a much better indicator of threat to individual health.
 
Didn't someone already post the menu from the Wuhan wet market that showed they didn't sell bats or pangolins like a year ago? It feels like all the mainstream news is behind the curve on this shit, like seriously spergs with too much free time were hitting all these talking points a year ago. Either teams of journalists are so retarded that they completely missed all this information or they buried intentionally for political or idealogical reasons, which sounds more likely?

It's fucking crazy to me at this point that I think getting news from a bunch of randoms on a cyberbullying forum is more reliable than fucking CNN. At least you cunts are quick with the information and if it's bullshit it gets picked apart and the poster is called a faggot. Wish you could do that with "real" journalists nowadays.
Never underestimate weaponized autism like you see on the internet and the farms. Some amazing shit can happen with dedicated people using the internet to track something down. (The "You Will Not Divide Us" flag possibly being the best peak example.)

We were literally posting lab leak theories and evidence of the lack of bats being sold back in January of last year. Only now is the mainstream news catching up. (Likely way too late as coverups by China are already in place.)

The early parts of this thread are seriously a goldmine of useful real time data and archived material that has been scrubbed from the web. I legit hope this thread is archived in full once it reaches its end. It would be an invaluable first person historical account. Seriously, a future historian 60-70 years from now would have an amazing real time reaction timetable.
 
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I believe that cases were under reported and deaths were over reported.

As far as deaths, ANYONE that tested positive for COVID counted as a death. 10 year battle with cancer? Multiple gunshot wounds? Covid deaths.

As far as cases, there were absolutely times where people just didn't get tested because they had no symptoms. Also probably due to contact tracing. There was a case my friends told me. So they got together on Sunday for football. On Wednesday, one of them announced that he tested positive for COVID. So the guy got a free COVID test on Friday because he was in direct contact. But his Mom that he lived with didn't have direct contact, so that would have cost $260, so she said fuck it. His test actually came back negative, but let;s pretend it came back positive. He got his result on Monday, so his Mom would have gotten to take the test for free. But she wouldn't have because by the time THAT result came back, it would have been 2 weeks passing anyway. So that would have been a "positive" case that just wasn't tested. I expect a lot of contact cases went untested like that, especially if they were asymptomatic.
They've redefined what counts as contracting an illness.

Never before in the entire history of medicine have people who are completely asymptomatic been counted en masse as 'positive' for a viral disease.

We don't do this with the flu, shit we don't do this with fucking Ebola. HIV? But that's a retrovirus with a multi year incubation period.

Let's compare the seasonal flu with Covid.


We first look at how many in-hospital deaths were observed in FluSurv-NET. The in-hospital deaths are adjusted for under-detection of influenza using methods similar to those described above for hospitalizations using data on the frequency and sensitivity of influenza testing. Second, because not all deaths related to influenza occur in the hospital, we use death certificate data to estimate how likely deaths are to occur outside the hospital. We look at death certificates that have pneumonia or influenza causes (P&I), other respiratory and circulatory causes (R&C), or other non-respiratory, non-circulatory causes of death, because deaths related to influenza may not have influenza listed as a cause of death. We use information on the causes of death from FluSurv-NET to determine the mixture of P&I, R&C, and other coded deaths to include in our investigation of death certificate data. Finally, once we estimate the proportion of influenza-associated deaths that occurred outside of the hospital, we can estimate the deaths-to-hospitalization ratio.

Additionally, some deaths – particularly among those 65 years and older – are associated with secondary complications of influenza (including bacterial pneumonias). For these and other reasons, modeling strategies are commonly used to estimate flu-associated deaths. Only counting deaths where influenza was recorded on a death certificate would be a gross underestimation of influenza’s true impact.

This is a good methodology in calculating the mortality of a respiratory virus. So why the fuck aren't we using it to estimate Covid deaths?


An accurate count of the number of deaths due to COVID–19 infection, which depends in part on proper death certification, is critical to ongoing public health surveillance and response. When a death is due to COVID–19, it is likely the UCOD and thus, it should be reported on the lowest line used in Part I of the death certificate. Ideally, testing for COVID–19 should be Vital Statistics Reporting Guidance U.S. Department of Health and Human Services • Centers for Disease Control and Prevention • National Center for Health Statistics • National Vital Statistics System 3 conducted, but it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate without this confirmation if the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty
Putting it into plain English the CDC requires that all deaths with a positive PCR test must have Covid listed as a cause, not necessarily the primary cause, but as a cause of death. Even if no positive PCR test or other serology is available if the death is from respiratory failure or pneumonia Covid must be written in the death certificate as a cause if the individual medical practitioner suspects that the patient had any kind of contact with someone who had Covid.

Take a second and imagine what the seasonal flu death rate would be if we used the same methodology?
 
They've redefined what counts as contracting an illness.

Never before in the entire history of medicine have people who are completely asymptomatic been counted en masse as 'positive' for a viral disease.

We don't do this with the flu, shit we don't do this with fucking Ebola. HIV? But that's a retrovirus with a multi year incubation period.

Let's compare the seasonal flu with Covid.




This is a good methodology in calculating the mortality of a respiratory virus. So why the fuck aren't we using it to estimate Covid deaths?



Putting it into plain English the CDC requires that all deaths with a positive PCR test must have Covid listed as a cause, not necessarily the primary cause, but as a cause of death. Even if no positive PCR test or other serology is available if the death is from respiratory failure or pneumonia Covid must be written in the death certificate as a cause if the individual medical practitioner suspects that the patient had any kind of contact with someone who had Covid.

Take a second and imagine what the seasonal flu death rate would be if we used the same methodology?
Where is @Hollywood Hulk Hogan to call you guys #antivax #MAGAtards

Edit: to give a few anecdotes - relative had been fighting cancer for something like 3 years before finally passing last year and it was labeled a COVID death.... I've known several people now who signed up to get tested, went to the testing station, saw the line and backed out only to get a text message hours later saying they tested positive.... and most recently brother in law, mid 30's, got the vaccine and a week after is now on blood thinners.
 
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A lot of us disagree about the COVID vaccines and various aspects of that. But can we all find some common ground in regards to the vaccination lotteries?

Between the sheer waste of money (that magically appeared) and the painfully cringe presentation of the drawings, the vaccination lottery stuff is one of the most absurdist, dystopian things I never thought I would see in the real world. Something about them is fucked up at a level I never really considered before and it is disturbing.
 
A lot of us disagree about the COVID vaccines and various aspects of that. But can we all find some common ground in regards to the vaccination lotteries?

Between the sheer waste of money (that magically appeared) and the painfully cringe presentation of the drawings, the vaccination lottery stuff is one of the most absurdist, dystopian things I never thought I would see in the real world. Something about them is fucked up at a level I never really considered before and it is disturbing.
If you have to bribe people to take the vaccine of a disease that shut down life for a year, you fucked up REALLY badly.
 
A lot of us disagree about the COVID vaccines and various aspects of that. But can we all find some common ground in regards to the vaccination lotteries?

Between the sheer waste of money (that magically appeared) and the painfully cringe presentation of the drawings, the vaccination lottery stuff is one of the most absurdist, dystopian things I never thought I would see in the real world. Something about them is fucked up at a level I never really considered before and it is disturbing.
If you have to bribe people to take the vaccine of a disease that shut down life for a year, you fucked up REALLY badly.
West Virginia had a gun raffle for it, which is breddy based.
 
Covid is a cover story. Maybe to field test the new style vaccine, which if perfected, could theoretically cure cancer, ads and may be more. Or (and this is my firm belief) that the coof was MEANT to be a lot, lot, lot more severe but it turned out shite because, well, it's chinese made (or was sabotaged by the Americans to make it less deadly)

I also think Oil, when processed and burned, causes cancer
Fauci help create AIDS and blamed it on an animal, much like he helped creating Covid-19 and blamed it on an animal.
 
Where is @Hollywood Hulk Hogan to call you guys #antivax #MAGAtards

Edit: to give a few anecdotes - relative had been fighting cancer for something like 3 years before finally passing last year and it was labeled a COVID death.... I've known several people now who signed up to get tested, went to the testing station, saw the line and backed out only to get a text message hours later saying they tested positive.... and most recently brother in law, mid 30's, got the vaccine and a week after is now on blood thinners.
Lots of hospital deaths will have PCR tests run post mortem. The hospitals have massive financial incentives to record Covid deaths. Now I'm not saying they're running 40 plus cycles (that would show an apple as Covid positive) but I'm not not saying they're running 40 plus cycles.
 
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