E3 2021 Griefing Thread - Now with more nigger pandering, does anyone even care about most of the games displayed here seriously? (Spoiler alert Nintendo won lol)

[Dark Edea]

Is Nintendo still on track to save E3 like every year?

 

[BooneHelm]

I've got bad news for you Dom.

You're getting old.

I think this is partially correct. It's too easy too blame it all on the "back in my day" syndrome though. A lot of it has to do with where gaming is at the moment. Back in the 90s the industry was big but still had to prove itself, therefore they tried harder.

Cut to 2021 and the industry is massive. Now people buy the new Playstation and Xbox with only 1-2 exclusives at launch or even planned. Creatively they don't have to try anymore most of the time.

 

[X Pac Heat]

I think this is partially correct. It's too easy too blame it all on the "back in my day" syndrome though. A lot of it has to do with where gaming is at the moment. Back in the 90s the industry was big but still had to prove itself, therefore they tried harder.

Cut to 2021 and the industry is massive. Now people buy the new Playstation and Xbox with only 1-2 exclusives at launch or even planned. Creatively they don't have to try anymore most of the time.

The industry is shit, don't get me wrong. But he'd be feeling what he is feeling regardless of how shit the industry is.

This is something that has happened my whole damn life.

1986-1996 was the time of the platformer.

1996-2006 was the 3D collect-a-thon. All I heard from my older cousins was how much games sucked now because they stopped doing platformers and everything had shitty controls because they were not used to 3D spaces (and they were pretty shitty controls). About the only thing they enjoyed were RPG's.

2006-2016 was the time of open worlds and the push towards everything being overly cinematic. While I enjoyed open worlds, this was when I started getting tired of gameplay being stiffed in exchange for overly long and overly produced cutscenes. This is also when my older cousins dropped out entirely as a lot of their favorite RPG's started playing linearly and were focused on visuals over the game.

2016-now has been the rise of battle royale/esports and the push towards games as a service. You're now seeing people our age dropping out because they're used to a game being a complete package and having some sort of narrative incentive or push to keep you playing.

It's normal. The new generation likes a new type of game and our generation just doesn't see the fun in it.

As far as the idea of the industry having to "try harder" back in the day, I'm sure most in the industry would claim they're working even harder today because they have to produce games that are far larger than anything before, with far more demanding graphics and animations. On top of this they have to produce stable netcode and keep everything running 24/7. They have to push for 60fps on multiple forms of software that are all outdated before they even release, Etc. Etc.

 

[Dark Edea]

The industry is shit, don't get me wrong. But he'd be feeling what he is feeling regardless of how shit the industry is.

This is something that has happened my whole damn life.

1986-1996 was the time of the platformer.

1996-2006 was the 3D collect-a-thon. All I heard from my older cousins was how much games sucked now because they stopped doing platformers and everything had shitty controls because they were not used to 3D spaces (and they were pretty shitty controls). About the only thing they enjoyed were RPG's.

2006-2016 was the time of open worlds and the push towards everything being overly cinematic. While I enjoyed open worlds, this was when I started getting tired of gameplay being stiffed in exchange for overly long and overly produced cutscenes. This is also when my older cousins dropped out entirely as a lot of their favorite RPG's started playing linearly and were focused on visuals over the game.

2016-now has been the rise of battle royale/esports and the push towards games as a service. You're now seeing people our age dropping out because they're used to a game being a complete package and having some sort of narrative incentive or push to keep you playing.

It's normal. The new generation likes a new type of game and our generation just doesn't see the fun in it.

As far as the idea of the industry having to "try harder" back in the day, I'm sure most in the industry would claim they're working even harder today because they have to produce games that are far larger than anything before, with far more demanding graphics and animations. On top of this they have to produce stable netcode and keep everything running 24/7. They have to push for 60fps on multiple forms of software that are all outdated before they even release, Etc. Etc.

Nintendo, frens. Just put your faith in Nintendo.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Nintendo, frens. Just put your faith in Nintendo.

Nintendos focus on gay ass Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem and Splatoon tho

 

[Stoneheart]

It's normal. The new generation likes a new type of game and our generation just doesn't see the fun in it.

Yeah but those kids are all stupid. the only still important e-sport title with good features is Csgo, and thats very old.
You can do nothing in those new Esport titles. they are stale and sterile.

 

[Dark Edea]

Nintendos focus on gay ass Animal Cross, Fire Emblem and Splatoon tho

Yeah those are great! Just think! In less than a week we will be able to see Breath of the Wild 2 and decide if life is worth living.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Yeah but those kids are all stupid. the only still important e-sport title with good features is Csgo, and thats very old.
You can do nothing in those new Esport titles. they are stale and sterile.

Doom players said the kids were stupid for playing Halo. Halo players said the kids were stupid for playing Call of Duty.

GTA San Andreas player say the kids are stupid for playing GTA Online.

Etc. Etc. The kids are always stupid. Maybe that's why grown ups are supposed to start walking away from video games...

 

[X Pac Heat]

Yeah but those kids are all stupid. the only still important e-sport title with good features is Csgo, and thats very old.
You can do nothing in those new Esport titles. they are stale and sterile.

Agreed, but the same was said about us.

Fucking half of you are probably fans of Mike Matei and his whole autistic career is bitching about how fucking dumb "kids" are for not liking NES games.

 

[Dark Edea]

GTA San Andreas player say the kids are stupid for playing GTA Online.

This is objectively true though because San Andreas and Vice City players had been enjoying Multi Theft Auto for free for a decade and having a blast. GTA Online players are not tight-butthole.

 

[BooneHelm]

The industry is shit, don't get me wrong. But he'd be feeling what he is feeling regardless of how shit the industry is.

I think you make some fantastic points. As we get older we will get less and less content (games, movies, books, etc.) directed towards us. The industry by nature has to cater to 18-25 year olds. I still think it's oversimplifying something with many moving parts.

When I stated they had to try harder back then, I meant just creatively. Everything now is typically a remake, sequel, or copying something else successful. Granted you had copycats back in the day but there was at least it wasn't at blatant most of the time. All battle royale games are the same game with minor differences.

Or perhaps I'm just an old man and out of touch....no..it's the children that are wrong.

 

[X Pac Heat]

When I stated they had to try harder back then, I meant just creatively. Everything now is typically a remake, sequel, or copying something else successful. Granted you had copycats back in the day but there was at least it wasn't at blatant most of the time. All battle royale games are the same game with minor differences.

The Gaming Industry as a whole has never been as creative as everyone likes to remember.

Everyone was copying Mario, Doom, Final Fantasy/Dragon Quest, etc. etc.

There were just as many, if not more, licensed games back in the day.

Games, even when they were not trying to be movies, were constantly ripping off movies.

Remember when everything was a Doom clone? Remember when everything was a Halo/GTA killer?

Now despite saying all that, I do still think games WERE better back in the day. But the fact is, no matter what, the industry would have never stayed in the same spot and we would have been disappointed with where it went.

 

[Stoneheart]

Doom players said the kids were stupid for playing Halo. Halo players said the kids were stupid for playing Call of Duty.

Doom Player were right, Who plays a FPS on console?

Etc. Etc. The kids are always stupid. Maybe that's why grown ups are supposed to start walking away from video games...

the kids are stupid because they are okay with cut content and all this paid microtransactions.

Fucking half of you are probably fans of Mike Matei and his whole autistic career is bitching about how fucking dumb "kids" are for not liking NES games.

most NES games are total shit and nobody hates the good ones...

All battle royale games are the same game with minor differences.

Yes, its a new idea and everybody will make one. this is the first new format in 2 decades that didnt came from a warcraft/starcraft mod...

 

[Marissa Moira]

I've got bad news for you Dom.

You're getting old.

This is nothing new with video games. The industry has always gone through style and tone changes. Most normal people stop being dedicated to games once they hit their 30's. At best they might just play a few niche titles that appeal to them. (or sports titles I guess for the real hardcore normies)

You're going to have a few story focused games, but you're not going to have a ton of them. Especially from AAA unless you want Sony's shitty diversity hire forced SWJ writing in them.

Games as a service and Esports are the future for at least the next 5 years sadly, maybe more if a new trend doesn't hit. Might be time to find a more productive hobby and just play the few titles that appeal to you. Or just join the old man club (lol I'm 31 too) with me and just bitch and moan and try to piss off as many gaymers as you can.

lol

You're still considered a young punk in the science fiction author crowd if you're in your 50's.

Fuck there are table top players who have played table top games for longer than people in their 30's have been alive. I mean you realize that we have uncovered game pieces for board games that are thousands of years old. Warhammer itself skews older because only established well off fucks can buy a gorillion tiny men to paint.

Dom has made mention on how he wants adult games that have a topless mode, I'm guessing something else is at play

TLDR You're being a fucking drama queen if you're complaining about age.

 

[HumanHive]

I've got bad news for you Dom.

You're getting old.

This is nothing new with video games. The industry has always gone through style and tone changes. Most normal people stop being dedicated to games once they hit their 30's. At best they might just play a few niche titles that appeal to them. (or sports titles I guess for the real hardcore normies)

You're going to have a few story focused games, but you're not going to have a ton of them. Especially from AAA unless you want Sony's shitty diversity hire forced SWJ writing in them.

Games as a service and Esports are the future for at least the next 5 years sadly, maybe more if a new trend doesn't hit. Might be time to find a more productive hobby and just play the few titles that appeal to you. Or just join the old man club (lol I'm 31 too) with me and just bitch and moan and try to piss off as many gaymers as you can.

“You can’t criticize the industry because video games are for children :^)”

 

[Marissa Moira]

Games are more of a feat of engineering than they are a creative work, hence why games are not art.

They all derive from what engineering works with some alterations because the devs think it will improve the original design. Dragon Quest is a derivative of Ultima which was derived from Akalabeth.

Doom clones was the word used before First person Shooter became the norm, because many shooting games like Quake started to play closer to their own thing and not like Doom.

Yes always online monetization can be proven that it works, but not all games that do it succeed. Lawbreakers was a huge fucking mistake. Or how about all the MMO clones of Wow that are now dead along with wow itself?

Personally, I'm still planning on getting Tales of Arise, Dragon Quest 3 HD, Legend of Heroes, and Final Fantasy 7 Intergrade. And most of that is releasing a few months from now before Elden Ring hits.

 

[heraclius33]

Doom Player were right, Who plays a FPS on console?


the kids are stupid because they are okay with cut content and all this paid microtransactions.



most NES games are total shit and nobody hates the good ones...



Yes, its a new idea and everybody will make one. this is the first new format in 2 decades that didnt came from a warcraft/starcraft mod...

Its sort of weird being a zoomer born in late 2001 and simply lacking the capacity to enjoy games that are shat out by the industry nowadays. I'd much rather play Daggerfall or Blood than what most of my friends goad me into purchasing.

 

[Str8Bustah]

just give me news about babylon's fall and dragon's dogma 2. everything else is guaranteed to be shit.I'm not even holding out hope for TGS, last year's show was absolute garbage.

 

[X Pac Heat]

“You can’t criticize the industry because video games are for children :^)”

Not what I am saying at all, but okay...

TLDR You're being a fucking drama queen if you're complaining about age.

I'm not the one crying that the kids are dumb for playing Fortnite...

Like the point I'm making is that if you're spending the whole week following E3 hoping you're going to see a ton of games like they were 10 years ago you're wasting your time as the industry has moved on. It sucks but it is what it is. There will always be games that will appeal to your taste, but the trend is what the trend is and the majority of E3 presentations will represent that.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Not what I am saying at all, but okay...



I'm not the one crying that the kids are dumb for playing Fortnite...

Fortnite is just monetized Unreal Tournament with less modes.