Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Screamer]

I have heard rumors that Spielberg directed parts of ROTS uncredited but who knows if that's actually true. Lucas likes everything about the filmmaking process but actually directing. I think it's a testament to how well directed ESB and ROTJ are that they fit with the tone and feeling of ANH to feel like a complete trilogy.

It's not a rumour, it's literally in the behind the scenes features on the DVD. Although it's more in the storyboarding, workshopping ideas and scenes way.

I think there's a beauty in the cinematography in ANH that is lacking in TESB and ROTJ. There's nothing at all equivalent to the beauty of Luke looking off into the sunset.

I wish they had used the look of Soylo's Falcon for the sequels instead. But since it had to be in the new movies it just had to look exactly identical to what it looked like 30 years ago. It would also be a simple visual reminder that this is a new trilogy by showing how familiar things the audience knows have changed.

And I would have blown it up after Han died.

Nostolgia berries with the Flacon. The sequels were all about rebooting to the end of the story from ROTJ, but transferring elements of Han and Luke onto a strong female lead. So it's now the new Jedi, who flies around in the Millennium Falcon with Chewbacca at her side. Then from there they'd jump off and do what could have been direct sequels to the OT but with lady Jedi.

 

[Sneed F91]

Disney and Bad Robot just seems incapable of recreating the original aliens without making them look ugly as sin or giving the colorful ones gross fleshtone skin with scrotum textures.

The most notable change was the Ithorian.
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Which didn't look anything like one. That faggot Pablo Hidalgo tried claiming it was a different species related to them but all promotional material, concept art and a card game called them Ithorians. Its like Bad Robot just skimmed through ANH or thought "Wow I can't believe George (JJ and the costume department pretending George was costume designer here) forgot to give this alien a mouth! Now's my chance to fix that!" either that or they just went by memory, which shows the movies were being made by people who didn't know jackdick about even the most basic SW elements.

They couldn't even be bothered to add make up to the Twi'leks in Disney which just makes their head tails look phallic. Even Bib Fortuna had a nice shade of grey.
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And they even gave the dude female ears which Hidalgo tried to claim was a "playful choice" which makes it sound like some twink thing.
They introduce a colorful one for Mando but she's creepy as sin...
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What's supposed to be the Xi'Dec insect species (which all look different but insect-like), instead looks like some bag of tumors with a malformed human face and four crab legs for arms.
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Even the Hutts have fucked up human faces.
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The list goes on...
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They all just look gross, ugly, creepy and/or generic when compared to their predecessors.
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Even the fags at Wookieepedo which prefer the new over the old seem to agree:

Even the Gran aren't as unpleasant by comparison.
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Rise of Skywalker's not-Tatooine party scene was also supposed to be set on Tatooine and feature "legacy" aliens with their original designs, but the scene was cancelled and replaced with the gay tentacle face party we got in the film while the costumes went unseen outside of production photos.
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And its not like there wasn't someone on the concept art team for TLJ who at least knew it can't be the same universe without its same major population.
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But all old designs were rejected unless they were Chewbacca, Ackbar and Nien Nunb, because Kennedy didn't think they were "funny enough" or that "it didn't look like Star Wars", hence why she ordered the original casino scrapped, replaced with a Jabba's palace lookalike and filled with ugly as sin tentacle aliens that she thought would be funnier and to make it look more like a "James Bond scene". Its a lot like the imagineers for Galaxy's Edge who came up with all sorts of OT and EU-centered ideas for the park with actual attractions but were all rejected to make it more sequel focused and have it be a glorified strip mall fox max profit....

Disney failed to produce a single memorable alien in their new franchise or even produce one that had an actual personality. The only nu-aliens they still advertise are the porgs but they're just toyetic merch items. That and those hideous Mon Calamari replacements from TFA they won't stop forcing into everything while claiming they've always been just as numerous as humans despite never appearing in anything before.
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It's hilarious that the fuck ugly Mon Calamari ripoff is the first new alien we see in the sequels because it perfectly sets the tone for the rest of the films.

What I'm wondering is, does the George Lucas alien royalties thing have any basis in fact? The mouse bought Lucasfilm from George wholesale on top of giving him a bunch of stakes in the company.

 

[Mississippi Motorboater]

Spielberg's contributions to ROTS were storyboarding the part of the Mustafar duel where Obi-Wan and Anakin are hanging on the giant metallic platform that goes over the lava waterfall towards the end of the fight (where they both disembark by leaping onto floating debris in the magma). He also recommended having Obi-Wan and Anakin be sweating and panting by the final portion of the duel, to emphasize the grueling nature of their battle and the heat around them.

The rest of the duel is all Lucas, his storyboard artists, and the ever-dependable Nick Gillard, whose choreography supervision cannot be understated.

To be fair I think Lucas was on the set a ton and more or less did direct RotJ. But there is probably truth to what you say in general.

As someone who has consulted J.W. Rinzler's Making Of books countless times, I can confirm that ROTJ is 99% a Lucas-directed effort. Richard Marquand had virtually no experience directing a film as SFX-heavy as ROTJ, so Lucas essentially walked him through every major decision, and was on-set virtually full-time. Lucas also enacted even more control over the writing than he was going to initially, turning down many of Lawrence Kasdan's suggestions for how the saga would close out (which was ultimately to the film's boon, since Kasdan's original pitch for the ending was fucking retarded, and indicative of the diarrhea of ideas he'd later bring to TFA).

ROTS and ROTJ are my favorite Star Wars films, so it's very easy to attribute what I like most about the core saga to George himself (and the other 90% to the EU), since those two films are wrought with the bulk of his creative impulses.

They're where his efforts as a filmmaker, inspired and misguided, crystalize into something truly epic, and prove that he isn't just "the ideas guy".

 

[Starscreams Cape]

ROTS and ROTJ are my favorite Star Wars films...

Damn, I didn't think I'd ever meet another like me. I may have found my hetero lifemate.

 

[White Devil]

I try to like ROTJ but the ewoks kill it for me.

 

[Cactuar King]

What's supposed to be the Xi'Dec insect species (which all look different but insect-like), instead looks like some bag of tumors with a malformed human face and four crab legs for arms.

Even the Hutts have fucked up human faces.

Those are both literally just walking testicles.

 

[Creep3r]

Those are both literally just walking testicles.

Cursed. Like some bald dude getting suffocated by a fatass's swollen and diseased balls.

 

[Grave Ghost]

Disney and Bad Robot just seems incapable of recreating the original aliens without making them look ugly as sin or giving the colorful ones gross fleshtone skin with scrotum textures.

The most notable change was the Ithorian.
View attachment 2250785
Which didn't look anything like one. That faggot Pablo Hidalgo tried claiming it was a different species related to them but all promotional material, concept art and a card game called them Ithorians. Its like Bad Robot just skimmed through ANH or thought "Wow I can't believe George (JJ and the costume department pretending George was costume designer here) forgot to give this alien a mouth! Now's my chance to fix that!" either that or they just went by memory, which shows the movies were being made by people who didn't know jackdick about even the most basic SW elements.

They couldn't even be bothered to add make up to the Twi'leks in Disney which just makes their head tails look phallic. Even Bib Fortuna had a nice shade of grey.
View attachment 2251008
And they even gave the dude female ears which Hidalgo tried to claim was a "playful choice" which makes it sound like some twink thing.
They introduce a colorful one for Mando but she's creepy as sin...
View attachment 2251120


What's supposed to be the Xi'Dec insect species (which all look different but insect-like), instead looks like some bag of tumors with a malformed human face and four crab legs for arms.
View attachment 2251074

Even the Hutts have fucked up human faces.
View attachment 2251164

The list goes on...
View attachment 2251177

They all just look gross, ugly, creepy and/or generic when compared to their predecessors.
View attachment 2251182
Even the fags at Wookieepedo which prefer the new over the old seem to agree:

Even the Gran aren't as unpleasant by comparison.
View attachment 2251211
Rise of Skywalker's not-Tatooine party scene was also supposed to be set on Tatooine and feature "legacy" aliens with their original designs, but the scene was cancelled and replaced with the gay tentacle face party we got in the film while the costumes went unseen outside of production photos.
View attachment 2251063

And its not like there wasn't someone on the concept art team for TLJ who at least knew it can't be the same universe without its same major population.
View attachment 2251054
But all old designs were rejected unless they were Chewbacca, Ackbar and Nien Nunb, because Kennedy didn't think they were "funny enough" or that "it didn't look like Star Wars", hence why she ordered the original casino scrapped, replaced with a Jabba's palace lookalike and filled with ugly as sin tentacle aliens that she thought would be funnier and to make it look more like a "James Bond scene". Its a lot like the imagineers for Galaxy's Edge who came up with all sorts of OT and EU-centered ideas for the park with actual attractions but were all rejected to make it more sequel focused and have it be a glorified strip mall for max profit....

Disney failed to produce a single memorable alien in their new franchise or even produce one that had an actual personality. The only nu-aliens they still advertise are the porgs but they're just toyetic merch items. That and those hideous Mon Calamari replacements from TFA they won't stop forcing into everything while claiming they've always been just as numerous as humans despite never appearing in anything before.
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Wait, I thought the explanation in the NuEU was that the First Order or Inperial Remnant went on a genocide spree after ROTJ and that's why we barely saw any of the original aliens?

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

Rex was the guy the twins were talking too. Makes you wonder what the point was of keeping his identity a secret when he's outed at the beginning of this episode almost immediately.

The Bad Batch have raked up giant debt because Wrecker and Omega bill piles of junk food to Cid... Why do they have access to Cid's bank account?

So, the Bad Batch never thought of getting their chips out until Rex came along to go "You know, those chips that make you turn on your friends and family might be a bit risky to keep around even if you're sure you're immune to them."

Wrecker's been having 'I'm totally going to turn' freak outs all day, is getting very agressive and no one thinks to restrain him when they're about to perform surgery on his brain.

Wrecker goes on a rampage, but it doesn't really go anywhere, just has him almost firing at Omega and then getting knocked out by Rex. And that's the payoff for a couple of episodes of foreshadowing. Yay.

They get their chips removed. Rex reveals he's apart of the Rebellion and contact, presumably, Ahsoka; which I'm pretty sure is another set of retcons.

Scrappers (the bad batch went to the junk planet from Fallen Order) spot them and call in the Empire. The end.

This episode feels like it's supposed to be a progression of the main plot, but it doesn't feel like anything really happens. Like, you could have just said they'd removed their chips offscreen and little would be lost.

 

[Oats12345]

Disney and Bad Robot just seems incapable of recreating the original aliens without making them look ugly as sin or giving the colorful ones gross fleshtone skin with scrotum textures.

The most notable change was the Ithorian.
View attachment 2250785
Which didn't look anything like one. That faggot Pablo Hidalgo tried claiming it was a different species related to them but all promotional material, concept art and a card game called them Ithorians. Its like Bad Robot just skimmed through ANH or thought "Wow I can't believe George (JJ and the costume department pretending George was costume designer here) forgot to give this alien a mouth! Now's my chance to fix that!" either that or they just went by memory, which shows the movies were being made by people who didn't know jackdick about even the most basic SW elements.

They couldn't even be bothered to add make up to the Twi'leks in Disney which just makes their head tails look phallic. Even Bib Fortuna had a nice shade of grey.
View attachment 2251008
And they even gave the dude female ears which Hidalgo tried to claim was a "playful choice" which makes it sound like some twink thing.
They introduce a colorful one for Mando but she's creepy as sin...
View attachment 2251120


What's supposed to be the Xi'Dec insect species (which all look different but insect-like), instead looks like some bag of tumors with a malformed human face and four crab legs for arms.
View attachment 2251074

Even the Hutts have fucked up human faces.
View attachment 2251164

The list goes on...
View attachment 2251177

They all just look gross, ugly, creepy and/or generic when compared to their predecessors.
View attachment 2251182
Even the fags at Wookieepedo which prefer the new over the old seem to agree:

Even the Gran aren't as unpleasant by comparison.
View attachment 2251211
Rise of Skywalker's not-Tatooine party scene was also supposed to be set on Tatooine and feature "legacy" aliens with their original designs, but the scene was cancelled and replaced with the gay tentacle face party we got in the film while the costumes went unseen outside of production photos.
View attachment 2251063

And its not like there wasn't someone on the concept art team for TLJ who at least knew it can't be the same universe without its same major population.
View attachment 2251054
But all old designs were rejected unless they were Chewbacca, Ackbar and Nien Nunb, because Kennedy didn't think they were "funny enough" or that "it didn't look like Star Wars", hence why she ordered the original casino scrapped, replaced with a Jabba's palace lookalike and filled with ugly as sin tentacle aliens that she thought would be funnier and to make it look more like a "James Bond scene". Its a lot like the imagineers for Galaxy's Edge who came up with all sorts of OT and EU-centered ideas for the park with actual attractions but were all rejected to make it more sequel focused and have it be a glorified strip mall for max profit....

Disney failed to produce a single memorable alien in their new franchise or even produce one that had an actual personality. The only nu-aliens they still advertise are the porgs but they're just toyetic merch items. That and those hideous Mon Calamari replacements from TFA they won't stop forcing into everything while claiming they've always been just as numerous as humans despite never appearing in anything before.
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Wait so Kennedy just wanting the aliens to be silly and noting else?

 

[Grave Ghost]

This episode feels like it's supposed to be a progression of the main plot, but it doesn't feel like anything really happens. Like, you could have just said they'd removed their chips offscreen and little would be lost.

And yet another example on why releasing the episodes weekly on a streaming service is dumb, at least Mandalorian didn't have so much filler.

 

[The Valeyard]

Wrecker also gets attacked by a Dianoga while The Bad Batch and Rex are exploring the wreckage of a Venator-class Star Destroyer for an extra dose of memberberries.

 

[Blamo]

Disney and Bad Robot just seems incapable of recreating the original aliens without making them look ugly as sin or giving the colorful ones gross fleshtone skin with scrotum textures.

Oh god, they pulled the STD Klingon style change on a lot of species. Why? You already had a ton of iconic designs, you should be glad that you can work with something people already like and know.

I honestly don't care about Disney Wars, but their weird decisions make me check back for more.

 

[BipolarPon]

I'm not too surprised Rex showed up, it's inventivble Ahsoka will show up, it's a Filoni made show after all.

Also the transdoshan lady looks like Earl Sinclair.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Bad Batch looks like one of those generic shows that felt like Lucasfilm got bored and needed to crank out something in 2021.

 

[BipolarPon]

Bad Batch looks like one of those generic shows that felt like Lucasfilm got bored and needed to crank out something in 2021.

They had some interesting arcs for Filoni Wars I wish they completed instead, but instead we get the Filoni Batch with an annoying kid character whose was the actual protagonist all along, and not the actual Bad Batch.

 

[Antarctic Hellbeast]

He unfortunately kind of did, when he wrote and directed Star Trek V.

A lot of the props in A New Hope were real deactivated or modified molds of real world weapons.

Speaking of stuff on Youtube - is it just me, or is EckhartsLadder starting to turn into a DisneyWars' shill?

The dude has been a disneywars shill since the beginning of "the farce engorges" saga along with starwarsHQ and other popular SW Lore channels.

The whole "legends" vs "canon" thing is retarded and basically re-writing history. Since the last 30+ years of Lucas approved and fan-collaborated- with-George's-blessing (like the second clone wars show) canon should take precedence over a sterilized corporation who neglects their culturally significant franchises as it is.

Sure there were stupid things in EU, but not nearly as blantant and purposely bad as Disneywars and always at least tried quality over chinesium quantity.
For the most part it was at least interesting enough to be a look at, even infinities for at least the laughing material for how over the top it could be. (Infinities is what a lot of retards and autists these days mistake for the Entirety of the EU when they say stupid shit indicative of battered gamer syndrome like "da EU wuz alllllll over dah placesz Dizney iz gonna get better after da last jediii I pwomise. I LIeak REYYYY!")

Disney failed to produce a single memorable alien in their new franchise or even produce one that had an actual personality. The only nu-aliens they still advertise are the porgs but they're just toyetic merch items. That and those hideous Mon Calamari replacements from TFA they won't stop forcing into everything while claiming they've always been just as numerous as humans despite never appearing in anything before.

I'm still surprised you managed to muster the respect to call them "aliens." I am not insulting you, they are really that bad and look like first draft star wars aliens at best from what you showed earlier in the thread of early concept art of a lot of the creatures and species in ANH.

They clearly are more medieval fantasy creatures since that genre is the only one in which the fags and cunts in hollywierd have any interest in.

Hence why they all look like Narnia rejects. Especially that "resistance gunner" and "resistance spy" class from EAfront 2.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

The dude has been a disneywars shill since the beginning of "the farce engorges" saga along with starwarsHQ and other popular SW Lore channels.

The whole "legends" vs "canon" thing is retarded and basically re-writing history. Since the last 30+ years of Lucas approved and fan-collaborated- with-George's-blessing (like the second clone wars show) canon should take precedence over a sterilized corporation who neglects their culturally significant franchises as it is.

Sure there were stupid things in EU, but not nearly as blantant and purposely bad as Disneywars and always at least tried quality over chinesium quantity.
For the most part it was at least interesting enough to be a look at, even infinities for at least the laughing material for how over the top it could be. (Infinities is what a lot of retards and autists these days mistake for the Entirety of the EU when they say stupid shit indicative of battered gamer syndrome like "da EU wuz alllllll over dah placesz Dizney iz gonna get better after da last jediii I pwomise. I LIeak REYYYY!")

It's not like Disney takes their new canon seriously either.

The Last Jedi was a big FUCK YOU to people who liked TFA, and Rise of Skywalker was a FUCK YOU to Rian Johnson and the Last Jedi. Then in comes Filoni, who in Season 7 of the Clone Wars and the Bad Batch show, started retconning shit from the Disney canon. Shit, he began retconning things as far back as the Mandalorian, where the Empire still has remnants running about in the galaxy, when in other canon works, they were supposed to have already left known space for some unknown part of the galaxy to rebuild their forces as the First Order. Disney canon makes even the worst parts of the old Expanded Universe canon look positively pristine by comparison.

It won't be long before they re-canonize a huge chunk of Legends lore to support their mess of a canon, or maybe even retcon the Sequels so they can have a do-over with Wolfman Filoni and Jon Favreau on the helm. Not even the people who made the Sequel Trilogy LIKE the Sequel Trilogy-Disney isn't satisfied with it, the people who worked on it are embarrassed by it, and the people who made it probably want a do-over. Only the spergy SJWs who obsess over critical theory like it, all the fans hate it and want it gone. And now that Filoni's prominence in Disney canon is assured, any such rewrites of said trilogy will involve him and Favreau since that's what most normie fans would want.

 

[HandsomeDan]

As stated above, they are more "monster" than alien. As many have said they look like they should have been on the 5th Element or something like that. I blame this look on originating with Neil Scanlin (however it is spelled).

They are gross with sickly flesh colors, small human faces and are not pleasant to look at. It was laziness combined with arrogance that lead to the look of almost everything in the ST as the "designers" wanted this to be "their" star wars. I just cant quite come to terms with the percentages that should be allocated to laziness/ignorance vs. arrogance on the designs.

This is why it looks like the Falcon, C-3PO, R2-D2 and Chewbacca (things they could not change) suddenly appeared in a different film franchise. Even the costumes Leia wore dont look like they would exist in Star Wars.

Anyone who says of the ST films "well, at least they are pretty to look at" is a liar or an idiot. There is nothing beautiful to look at in these films and what is worse much of it is crowded, moves too fast and is like looking at it through a paper towel tube.

I realize we have spent over 2,000 pages harping on this, but I still cant say enough that every aspect of these films is an abject failure and complete trash.

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

"Ohmahgawd, guys, my heart totally stopped when Wrecker went terminator for a minute and did jackshit! I was so scared that they'd have him do anything meaningful."

You'd think by this point most people would see through such flimsy 'tension'.