How Do We Revive Conservativism?

[Mariposa Electrique]

I've thought about this a lot, and like most of you, I really wish we could revive the conservative way of life. It's become so bad that a lot of conservatives don't even realize they're conservative. I want to see trannies, marxists, and their teachers kicked out of schools. I don't want to hear about donut punching blacks wearing fucking hijabs. I don't want immigrants anywhere near me or my children unless they're white or Japanese. I want to restore the black family unit in Europe and the new world along with the traditional family unit, period. I want the homeless to be forced into nuthouses where they belong. The only catch is, how in the hell do we further our political agenda?

Is the only thing that can shock us back into our senses another world war?

 

[The Cunting Death]

>we

 

[mario if smoke weed]

Best I can think of is educating the children, fight gay fire with straight fire

 

[Milkis]

Stop deluding yourself, there is nothing left to conserve! You're not a conservative, you're a reactionary or something. I don't even like that word, it's hard to justify "reacting" to something that's been going on since 1789. Maybe "restorationist" or "traditionalist" would be better, I don't know. But stop chaining yourself to the notion that you're trying to "preserve" something in this society. You want a different type of society altogether.

 

[Fromtheblackdepths]

I've thought about this a lot, and like most of you, I really wish we could revive the conservative way of life. It's become so bad that a lot of conservatives don't even realize they're conservative. I want to see trannies, marxists, and their teachers kicked out of schools. I don't want to hear about donut punching blacks wearing fucking hijabs. I don't want immigrants anywhere near me or my children unless they're white or Japanese. I want to restore the black family unit in Europe and the new world along with the traditional family unit, period. I want the homeless to be forced into nuthouses where they belong. The only catch is, how in the hell do we further our political agenda?

Is the only thing that can shock us back into our senses another world war?

Read Locke.

 

[Blamo]

I would say the label is not worth salvaging. By very definition it is reactionary.

 

[DumbDude42]

conservative just means preserving the status quo, whatever that might be.

if you were a conservative in pre-revolutionary france, that would mean you were a staunch defender of the monarchy.
if you were a conservative in napoleonic france, that would mean you were a staunch defender of imperial france.
if you were a conservative in interwar france, that would mean you were a staunch defender of republican france.

if you're a conservative today, that means you're a staunch defender of what was considered progressive yesterday, and tomorrow you will be a staunch defender of what is considered progressive today.

what you want, what you are looking for, is being a hard right wing reactonary. but in reality you don't actually want that, because it comes with the most severe and brutal social stigma that currently exists. it gets you excommunicated from polite society faster than being an open pedophile would.

 

[JamusActimus]

We don't we're a gossip site

 

[Picnic_Boy]

Conservatism is as dead as liberalism. Now it's just corporatists versus conspiracy theorists.

 

[Blamo]

Conservatism is as dead as liberalism. Now it's just corporatists versus conspiracy theorists.

In the Cringe darkness of the 21th century you are either a skitzo or a pill peddler.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

Conservatism is as dead as liberalism. Now it's just corporatists versus conspiracy theorists.

Any ideology nowadays is fucking dead. While could be gonna change by extremists (which is scary at the same time), is still a game.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

You want a different type of society altogether.

Just like marxist trannies who love illegals and want men, women, and children to find them attractive.

 

[Haim Arlosoroff]

The problem is the flags and the teams. The allegiances to entirely subverted binary party bases. Liberals supposedly represent everything left of the ever-shifting (and so ultimately meaningless) line but instead push Corporate Pride Month and whatever the fuck this is:

Whereas the Conservative side supposedly represents everything right of the ever-shifting (and so ultimately meaningless) line but instead pushes Caitlyn Jenner and whatever the fuck this is:

I mean there is a reason this joke exists:

The problem is Conservatism isn't a moral position because it rests on a political party and not the supposed morals of the political party (which should tell you something about the political party). A real moral position would be made of morals. I would suggest forming a loose set of preferences and a core set of absolutes. I fight for my wealth to give to my family, and I want to be surrounded by men and their families doing the same. Do the republicans help corporations to lower the wage by inflating the dollar and using the printed pile on their financiers? Do the democrats even want families? Clearly we all want the America of our childhood, and those born in the seventies therefore want 1970 back too. However Blacks are not going to want the past back, Hispanics are not going to want White America to reassert itself and kick them out. Nonviolent political solutions then require compromises; what morals and systems do you want, what morals and systems do you need, and what morals and systems do you reject?

I would also consider, if I were you, the term 'reactionary' and what it means. Conservation failed if it already failed and the thing supposedly being conserved is gone into the rear-view mirror of history.

 

[Question Mark]

Liberal faggots will just weed themselves out of the gene pool in the long run. Groups like the Amish and other religious fundamentalists are breeding the fastest.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

I would also consider, if I were you, the term 'reactionary' and what it means. Conservation failed if it already failed and the thing is gone into the rear-view mirror of history.

I don't know, when people start *successfully advocating for child rape in the West and the murdering of women by jealous troons you might change your tune. I don't just mean radical, obscure people on Twitter, I mean mainstream activism with mainstream figures joining in and reducing the stigma.

 

[KingCoelacanth]

Conservatism is the idea of maintaining society as it is now. In reality, conservatism is the moderate ideology.
progressivism - progressive, new change away from tradition
conservatism - keeping the current status quo, no new progressive change nor traditional change
traditionalism - reverting back to previous norms, away from progressivism.

In western society, there are only progressive choices, or moderate choices. Over time, every progressive victory becomes cemented into society and becomes the new 'moderate' position which conservatives will defend. Since there are no real traditionalist options, society will only move in a progressive direction, with conservatives only providing minor roadblocks to progressive changes. Conservatives will also oppose traditionalist changes, should they arise.
Conservative 'victories' are always nothing more than delaying progressive changes for a few years, then eventually adopting them. Conservatives never undo progressive changes, nor do they want to.

 

[Chaos Theorist]

The problem is the flags and the teams. The allegiances to entirely subverted binary party bases. Liberals supposedly represent everything left of the ever-shifting (and so ultimately meaningless) line but instead push Corporate Pride Month and whatever the fuck this is:
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Whereas the Conservative side supposedly represents everything right of the ever-shifting (and so ultimately meaningless) line but instead pushes Caitlyn Jenner and whatever the fuck this is:

I mean there is a reason this joke exists:
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The problem is Conservatism isn't a moral position because it rests on a political party and not the supposed morals of the political party (which should tell you something about the political party). A real moral position would be made of morals. I would suggest forming a loose set of preferences and a core set of absolutes. I fight for my wealth to give to my family, and I want to be surrounded by men and their families doing the same. Do the republicans help corporations to lower the wage by inflating the dollar and using the printed pile on their financiers? Do the democrats even want families? Clearly we all want the America of our childhood, and those born in the seventies therefore want 1970 back too. However Blacks are not going to want the past back, Hispanics are not going to want White America to reassert itself and kick them out. Nonviolent political solutions then require compromises; what morals and systems do you want, what morals and systems do you need, and what morals and systems do you reject?

I would also consider, if I were you, the term 'reactionary' and what it means. Conservation failed if it already failed and the thing is gone into the rear-view mirror of history.

https://twitter.com/BlckCatBlckSky

I hope this retard steps on a exposed plug

 

[Jewthulhu]

By not trying to rebuild the past, but to make the future better. For example, instead of trying to recreate "muh based '50s," ask yourself how a modern political system can avoid the flaws and failures of that system while maximizing its virtues. I might not agree with the German Nazi movement, but its greatest advantage was that it was not a purely reactionary movement, but a revolutionary one. It wasn't trying to simply bring back the Kaiser, but to reinvent German society in its entirety.

Of course, all of this is just a thought experiment because a liberal democracy constitutional republicanism doesn't actually allow for political movements outside the Overton bubble.

 

[Haim Arlosoroff]

I don't know, when people start *successfully advocating for child rape in the West and the murdering of women by jealous troons you might change your tune. I don't just mean radical, obscure people on Twitter, I mean mainstream activism with mainstream figures joining in and reducing the stigma.

People tried that and got called homophobic:

You are like Zion in the matrix, one of the red pills is the "liberalizing of sex leads to more child rape" argument is vastly older than you think and the liberals have gotten exceedingly good at overcoming it. It barely holds them back anymore, as you yourself noticed, but how have they done it? Because they did it before and each time learned a thing or two about overcoming sanity and asserting Thought-terminating clichés of equality.

"This needs to happen as soon as possible because we need to go back to the things we miss and love. The new normal means Hope. We have suffered enough. We will build back better. If you see something, say something. In these troubled times, we must all come together. Now its up to you. We will Make America Great Again. Hate has no place in America. Do your part."

You cannot tell me you heard none of these, or when you first (not last) heard one of these. You've seen the average person hearing these and obeying. You are just the latest to wake to the growing evil, its vast and old, and even you like some of the sexual perversions and freedoms it gave you for your allegiances up until now. You can think of it as the end-times from the bible, social entropy, or even a cost of liberty which needs to be paid now and again.

But if you will not think I cannot help you, because you want it to stop in an animalistic howl and nothing more, you are then still ensnared and trapped by the Thought-terminating clichés. Not because "I cannot do all the work" but because you cannot even see what the problem is you are in such mental anguish. You lack the first instinct to glimpse your enemy, to understand the danger. In a democracy, and I am not for democracies because they lead to this very problem hundreds of ways, you don't have the right to be willfully stupid. You are the lynchpin in a democracy, either be against democracy, or learn about the entropy destroying your nation. Do not huddle and cry out to be saved, America doesn't let women and children do that anymore so why would you be pitied and cared for? Equality is merely the act of convincing moms to become single moms in their empowerment so that in their resulting impoverishment their kids are more exposed.

Conservatism is the idea of maintaining society as it is now. In reality, conservatism is the moderate ideology.
progressivism - progressive, new change away from tradition
conservatism - keeping the current status quo, no new progressive change nor traditional change
traditionalism - reverting back to previous norms, away from progressivism.

Reactionary or traditionalism, whatever the term it is the path out of the post-modern's asylum.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Is the only thing that can shock us back into our senses another world war?

"Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times." - G. Michael Hopf

(it would be nice if the cycle could be broken with good times not creating weak men)