Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Niggs Monaghan]

Well, the giant DEBOONKING article by USAToday about him ironically suggests that the vaccine did play a part in his death.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...doctor-didnt-die-covid-19-vaccine/5167752001/
They claim the vaccine had nothing to do with his death, but buried halfway through their shitty article, they say this:
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Aortic dissection is basically when the inner part of your heart rips apart.

Aortic dissection - Symptoms and causes

www.mayoclinic.org

And now even mainstream news is reporting that the vaccine is causing cases of heart inflammation, which they try to hand waive as minor, but heart inflammation plays a huge role in conditions like, oh let's see, aortic dissection:

Inflammatory response is associated with aortic dissection - PubMed

Aortic dissection is an age-dependent life-threatening cardiovascular disease with high mortality rates. Recent research has shown that inflammation plays an important role in aortic dissection. Inflammatory cells, such as lymphocytes and macrophages, not only increase the expression of...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

as seen in this 2009 peer reviewed article aptly titled "Inflammatory response is associated with aortic dissection".

It makes sense, imagine a balloon being inflated with a bunch of water that will later get poured out. Sure, if the balloon doesn't have any existing weak points or damage, it might not be an issue. But if there's a little thin spot of material, and you fill it with a bunch of water, you run the risk of the balloon popping through that weak spot.

So, could the vaccine not influenced this guys death? It's a possibility, but seeing as he took a vaccine that's known to cause heart inflammation, and then died of a heart issue that can be caused or aggravated by heart inflammation, it remains a serious possibility.

You know, I only ever heard of that recently because that's exactly what Miura, author of the Berserk manga, died of.
I wonder if he had also gotten the vaccine recently, although I know he has been in bad health for a long time.

 

[Dude Snakes]

The politicians on my TV are saying "How can we convince people that their choices are either death or the vaccine?" and I'm just...

WTF that is scary where do you live?

 

[Vic Viper T301]

Well, the giant DEBOONKING article by USAToday about him ironically suggests that the vaccine did play a part in his death.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...doctor-didnt-die-covid-19-vaccine/5167752001/
They claim the vaccine had nothing to do with his death, but buried halfway through their shitty article, they say this:
View attachment 2259170

Aortic dissection is basically when the inner part of your heart rips apart.

Aortic dissection - Symptoms and causes

www.mayoclinic.org

And now even mainstream news is reporting that the vaccine is causing cases of heart inflammation, which they try to hand waive as minor, but heart inflammation plays a huge role in conditions like, oh let's see, aortic dissection:

Inflammatory response is associated with aortic dissection - PubMed

Aortic dissection is an age-dependent life-threatening cardiovascular disease with high mortality rates. Recent research has shown that inflammation plays an important role in aortic dissection. Inflammatory cells, such as lymphocytes and macrophages, not only increase the expression of...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

as seen in this 2009 peer reviewed article aptly titled "Inflammatory response is associated with aortic dissection".

It makes sense, imagine a balloon being inflated with a bunch of water that will later get poured out. Sure, if the balloon doesn't have any existing weak points or damage, it might not be an issue. But if there's a little thin spot of material, and you fill it with a bunch of water, you run the risk of the balloon popping through that weak spot.

So, could the vaccine not influenced this guys death? It's a possibility, but seeing as he took a vaccine that's known to cause heart inflammation, and then died of a heart issue that can be caused or aggravated by heart inflammation, it remains a serious possibility.

"Undiagnosed aortic dissection" Yeah this dude was living with a major artery cut in half and he happened to die a month after the vaccine... Fucks sake what kind of morons do they take us for?

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Telling people not to take the vaccine because one knows someone who died from getting it is like telling people to take the lottery seriously because one knows someone who won it (even if they're not being manipulative and really do think the vaccine is deadly or harmful with no politics involved).

The difference is that the coof is like a normal flu or mutated cold.

(and as said the "it's just a flu bro" meme was likely planted as a "thought terminating cliche")

Meanwhile the vaccine is a dubious thing rushed out by Big Pharma.

 

[Gyzm Axwell 29]

Earlier posts in this thread about how difficult it is to actually contract a prion disease (or cause one in the lab in animal models) outside of things like eating brains makes me think this would be an incredibly rare side effect, like statistically zero.

Umm.. people are INJECTING the spike protein, and/or altering their RNA to produce the protein. This bypasses all the natural defenses, rendering your probabilistic justification pulled from your ass moot.

FFS, does nobody think? You're really shilling hard, bud.

 

[PittyKitty]

New Discovery Shows Human Cells Can Write RNA Sequences Into DNA – Challenges Central Principle in Biology

Can anyone smarter explain potential effects that this have? Can vax mRNA reverse transcribe to DNA and integrate into the host genome?

 

[Gyzm Axwell 29]

New Discovery Shows Human Cells Can Write RNA Sequences Into DNA – Challenges Central Principle in Biology

Can anyone smarter explain potential effects that this have? Can vax mRNA reverse transcribe to DNA and integrate into the host genome?

Short story: Yes.
Mercola has several good interviews and articles. As does Mike Adams. As do others, of course.

"Reverse transcriptase" is the term you want to search. Fauci was deep into HIV reverse-engineering. The wonderful jabs are loaded up with an HIV chassis to deliver their magickal thing that makes you a patented organism.

Be informed, get very informed.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Don't sweat it, all of us were either foolishly pessimistic, or hopelessly naïve about it a year ago.

I remember getting negrates (back when negrates were a thing) when this crazy circus started, for posts skeptical of the coof from the start and saying that coronapanic is yet another symptom of Clown World.

I'm glad I wasn't wrong and the coof wasn't a real pandemic, despite the over-inflated BS death toll.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Umm.. people are INJECTING the spike protein, and/or altering their RNA to produce the protein. This bypasses all the natural defenses, rendering your probabilistic justification pulled from your ass moot.

FFS, does nobody think? You're really shilling hard, bud.

You can inject an animal with prions and they will almost never develop a prion illness simply because they either need to be predisposed or you need to inject them with a huge amount of prions on multiple occasions. Your body already gets rid of garbage proteins, including some of the shit that no doubt could get produced from this.

This is not the first time mRNA vaccines have been used (it's by far the widest spread use however), and there's plenty of animal models out there that says the risk of prions is overstated. We don't even know if the proteins from this vaccine will cross the blood-brain barrier which is absolutely neceessary for prion disease to occur (since prions concentrate in the brain). It's certainly possible, it's just not likely, just like how it's possible a healthy person might have their lungs, heart, kidneys, liver, brain, blood vessels, testes and everything but the kitchen sink permanently damaged by COVID-19, but highly unlikely.

This isn't shilling for vaccination, this is shilling for actual science and telling people to do the research and oppose vaccination based on the facts (namely "I don't need this because I'm young and healthy" and "the government is not my doctor, fuck off"). This is literally the exact same thing I encourage (and society should encourage) everyone to do about COVID-19 and their risks and fearmongering about vaccines based on questionable science is no different than ZOMG COVID IS AIRBORNE AIDS WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE. Vaccine doomsperging and COVID doomsperging are just two sides of the same Covidiot coin.

 

[NoSpiceLife]

inject them with a huge amount of prions on multiple occasions

What do 'huge amount' and 'multiple' mean?

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

What do 'huge amount' and 'multiple' mean?

I was referring to another post in this thread which referred to testing involving scrapie, a sheep/goat disease similar to mad-cow disease and Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease in humans. It can take several jabs of scrapie prions to cause the disease. Doing a bit more research, there was a large scrapie outbreak involving sheep vaccines (the vaccine was contaminated as it used bits of spinal cord and other areas scrapie prions concentrate). It still only infected between 40-60% of sheep despite multiple jabs that amounted to injecting the disease.

If I'm wrong (and current science, and even our deity Science) that prions are a very low risk, we'll get a lot of good knowledge on both prions and mRNA tech (which is really cool and can cure a lot of awful shit, but this is something rushed out too early) and ideally we can use Big Pharma executives and politicians as lab rats in prion experiments to find a cure. A lot of these bastards do indeed deserve a nice case of CJD, FFI, or maybe even kuru.

There very possibly are are unknown long-term effects from this vaccine, since we don't know enough about how the human body works. Bad proteins in the body cause common diseases of old-age like Alzheimers and Parkinsons and IIRC also are the leading cause of death in supercentenarians. This disease is tweaking with stuff we don't fully understand and may very well in several decades cause a spike in otherwise rare diseases or a massive rise in Alzheimers or whatever. Or it might now. I think if you're already elderly it shouldn't matter much since your risk of COVID-19 is a lot greater than some unforeseen side effect. For that same reason, it's why the youth should be extremely hesitant and consider their risk. And yes, drug companies should be 100% liable for this shit as should businesses who forcibly vaccinate their employees.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

the real question is why the fuck is this virus so insanely unpredictable at times about who it kills

It's not unpredictable though.
A few statistical outliers does not make something "unpredictable". If it were truly unpredictable it would be reflected in the data, wherein we would see not only a much more "even" fatality/hospitalization rate among all demographics, but also wild swings in said rate over time as the randomness causes dips and peaks in the data.

Fauci was deep into HIV reverse-engineering. The wonderful jabs are loaded up with an HIV chassis to deliver their magickal thing that makes you a patented organism.

Where the fuck did you pull this nonsense from?
"loaded with HIV chassis"?

You can inject an animal with prions and they will almost never develop a prion illness simply because they either need to be predisposed or you need to inject them with a huge amount of prions on multiple occasions. Your body already gets rid of garbage proteins, including some of the shit that no doubt could get produced from this.

This is not the first time mRNA vaccines have been used (it's by far the widest spread use however), and there's plenty of animal models out there that says the risk of prions is overstated. We don't even know if the proteins from this vaccine will cross the blood-brain barrier which is absolutely neceessary for prion disease to occur (since prions concentrate in the brain). It's certainly possible, it's just not likely, just like how it's possible a healthy person might have their lungs, heart, kidneys, liver, brain, blood vessels, testes and everything but the kitchen sink permanently damaged by COVID-19, but highly unlikely.

This isn't shilling for vaccination, this is shilling for actual science and telling people to do the research and oppose vaccination based on the facts (namely "I don't need this because I'm young and healthy" and "the government is not my doctor, fuck off"). This is literally the exact same thing I encourage (and society should encourage) everyone to do about COVID-19 and their risks and fearmongering about vaccines based on questionable science is no different than ZOMG COVID IS AIRBORNE AIDS WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE. Vaccine doomsperging and COVID doomsperging are just two sides of the same Covidiot coin.

 

[Billy Beer]

UK update:

Toda, June 21st, the Uk Govt is going to decide if our restrictions are going to end as planned.

Since yesterday though, the BBC has run an article on their website, located on the main banner headline "Restriction to continue another 4 weeks"

So you think, "Shit, another 4 weeks?". But once you read the article, it says "supposodely' and "possibly if the data..."

My neighbour even said "have you seen they're extending the restrictions" i said "No, that's just the BBC making shit up."

The official decision is made at 18:00 today, yet the BBC have taken it upon themselves to peddle this shite that it IS being extended for four weeks, like they are the ones in charge.

Fuck the Tv license and fuck the BBC

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

Telling people not to take the vaccine because one knows someone who died from getting it is like telling people to take the lottery seriously because one knows someone who won it (even if they're not being manipulative and really do think the vaccine is deadly or harmful with no politics involved).

I tell people not to get it because there's no reason to. What will change about my life after I get it? I can tell you right now that anyone saying you're going to "finally" be able to go back to "normal" is a filthy fucking liar, and I have a goalpost on rocket skates to prove it. You get normality back when you tell these tyrants to eat your ass, not when you comply with this week's fakeout. The city/state/federal government hasn't upheld their end of this social contract one single time during this entire wave of horseshit. What motivation to I have to uphold mine? This is a cold. I'm not rubbing my stomach while patting my head because the governor says we can open up if we do that. I'm not doing the hokey pokey. I'm not bending over for a cotton swab up my ass. I'm not walking in a straight line while singing the alphabet backward. As far as I'm concerned, I have to do zero more things to get my life back, and my governor can choke on my dick if it pisses him off that much.

 

[Fliddaroonie]

UK update:

Toda, June 21st, the Uk Govt is going to decide if our restrictions are going to end as planned.

Since yesterday though, the BBC has run an article on their website, located on the main banner headline "Restriction to continue another 4 weeks"

So you think, "Shit, another 4 weeks?". But once you read the article, it says "supposodely' and "possibly if the data..."

My neighbour even said "have you seen they're extending the restrictions" i said "No, that's just the BBC making shit up."

The official decision is made at 18:00 today, yet the BBC have taken it upon themselves to peddle this shite that it IS being extended for four weeks, like they are the ones in charge.

Fuck the Tv license and fuck the BBC

Are you stupid? The decision is ANNOUNCED at 1800 today. It was made weeks back. It was a foregone conclusion. Extend the restrictions, ramp up the fear, tell people "one last push but vaccines nao pls" and get more people to take it.

They don't make the decisions as they're giving the announcement, what a pile of fucking bullshit, This was decided weeks ago.


Christ alive, fucking idiocy like this is shameful.

Edit: You can add "people who think simply hating the BBC makes them intellectually and morally superior" to list of things to fuck. You're as fucking retarded as the soyboyscoomersbugsnackerpoddwellers BBC lovers if you can't understand why your comment is spastic tier stupidity.

 

[fhqwhgads]

I hope it won't get extended any further beyond this, but who am I kidding? Boris promised months ago that it would all finally be over on 21 June, yet here we are. Even though we've had at least one day with zero deaths, it's certainly worth continuing to trash the economy, people's lives, and their mental health. Fuck this country.

 

[Fliddaroonie]

I hope it won't get extended any further beyond this, but who am I kidding? Boris promised months ago that it would all finally be over on 21 June, yet here we are. Even though we've had at least one day with zero deaths, it's certainly worth continuing to trash the economy, people's lives, and their mental health. Fuck this country.

All to protect the two thirds who are fat cunts and old bastards. Funny how I owe a fat piece of shit their good health, but they're not expected to put down the goddamn fork.

 

[fhqwhgads]

All to protect the two thirds who are fat cunts and old bastards. Funny how I owe a fat piece of shit their good health, but they're not expected to put down the goddamn fork.

They should all be vaccinated by now anyway, so who are we even protecting anymore?

 

[Car Won't Crank]

They should all be vaccinated by now anyway, so who are we even protecting anymore?

The egos of the powers that be

 

[Fliddaroonie]

They should all be vaccinated by now anyway, so who are we even protecting anymore?

The Government, from scrutiny and probes into their contracts for pals scandal, how Carrie Antionette has been spaffing away money redecorating, using money from donors expecting favours when they want to call them in, and from the public, who ask precisely how many people died solely of covid, rather than because of invasive and harmful interventions when treatments like Inver and HCQ are cheap and readily available (and spare me the "butbutbutmuh off labels meds!!!" BS, when GPs routinely prescribe stuff like beta blockers for anxiety, and antihistamines for BPPV).

That's who.