US The Left is trying to redefine critical race theory because they are losing

The Left is trying to redefine critical race theory because they are losing​

Zachary Faria
Wed, June 16, 2021
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The Left tried to use last summer’s momentum from the Black Lives Matter movement to push its destructive ideas of so-called “anti-racism” and critical race theory. Now, they’re frantically trying to redefine the terms of the debate, as the momentum has built up against them instead.

Liberals are now asking that you pay no attention to the curriculum behind the curtain. They have taken to insisting that critical race theory isn’t actually being taught in K-12 schools, even though there are clear examples that show that it is. The New York Times even wrote in July 2020 about the “anti-racism” programs being brought to parents and staff in various school districts. Another New York Times piece published just two weeks ago noted that critical race theory is a "framework that has found its way into K-12 public education."

The controversial, Pulitzer-winning 1619 Project, which was riddled with historical inaccuracies and crafted on the false premise that the American Revolution was fought to preserve slavery, has also been pushed into K-12 curricula. The project’s architect, Nikole Hannah-Jones, is among the many liberals trying to cast critical race theory in the narrowest terms possible.

She is trying to distance her shoddy “journalism” from critical race theory because the push against it is real and effective.

As with nonsensical definitions of "assault weapon" or weapon of war" in the gun debate, the Left constantly tries to redefine the terms of debate when they are losing an issue. Were it not for the shield of the Supreme Court, abortion would be far more restricted in the United States. That is also a losing issue for them, so much so that they must redefine the pro-life movement as “anti-choice" and abortion is a “procedure” or, more simply, a “women’s rights issue.” In recent years, they have tried hard to shift attention from abortion itself to birth control.

Now, they’re trying to erase their own connections to Ibram X. Kendi, Robin DiAngelo, and other racial hucksters whom they zealously promoted not long ago — people who, yes, have managed to worm their way into K-12 curricula. All of those school districts spending thousands on Kendi’s books, “anti-racism” programs, and bureaucrats with words such as “equity” in their title — now, these clowns want to make us all think that we imagined all of it.

This is obviously a good sign. It means that the push against these toxic ideas, from both Republican state governments and the concerned parents at local school board meetings, is working. Much like Hannah-Jones did in constantly moving the goalposts on the merits of the 1619 Project, she and other liberals are doing the same here because they are losing the fight to indoctrinate America’s youth with their toxic and divisive racial obsession. We are on the right path, and the push to reject these ideas must continue apace.
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I wouldn’t say the Democrat party is losing but they realize that support for critical race theory isn’t as high as they thought and now they’re backtracking.

 

[TFT-A9]

I highly doubt most in this thread even knew what CRT was until it aired on Fox News.

I was made intimately familiar with it in college, but continue being a mendacious fuckwit

 

[the clap]

Don't worry, if this dies they'll just replace it with Critical Gender Theory.
Anything to avoid the elephant in the room, Critical Caste Theory.

 

[MadStan]

I don't have anything further to add to this thread that would be considered valuable, but I'll leave it with this warning:

You have just celebrated a government legislating against the teaching of something. Ergo, this will not be the last thing they will ban - and you are not going to like what some people in their ears are going to say should not be taught and give them plenty of money to have other things banned. It also means that you are celebrating that they can legislate what can be taught.

Perhaps in Salt Lake they will ban any teaching that questions the truth of Mormons, or perhaps anything (like critical thinking) that could shed a light on thinking that Mormons aren't the best - or ban books that question it.

I get it you don't like CRT, but again you are celebrating a slippery slope and I promise you, whatever you think is right to be taught or not is NOT going to be the same as what people (often religions and deluded meglomaniacs) think, and now they can lobby to have other things added to the "do not teach list" with their money.

It will take time, but the slope has started. Watch. This is nothing to celebrate even if you hate CRT you aren't seeing where this can - and will - go to.

 

[TFT-A9]

Don't worry, if this dies they'll just replace it with Critical Gender Theory.
Anything to avoid the elephant in the room, Critical Caste Theory.

Critical gender theory has been here for a while, it doesn't go by that name though. Most of the "foundational literature" on it is already taught in a number of classes - Brownmiller, Dworkin, Greer, Hooks, and likely half a dozen others I'm forgetting.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

Nothing to argue with you about. I am just pointing out that CRT essentially became a catch-all for any racism and some of the materials being thrown about are written by people throwing a lot of crap into it that wasn't part of the original theory.

This government actively supports the push of religion into almost every form of our lives from oaths to funding schools that teach religion and giving them tax breaks to almost banning a non-religious person from running for the big office.

Any curriculum in any school should be checked and ensured it is balanced. And if it is not then sure, out the window it goes, no problem there. But let's be sure exactly what we are banning here and I have a pretty good idea the legislators have read summaries from other people who want to see it banned and actually haven't read it beyond some excerpts.

Also I suspect what CRT is in one place probably differs from another in content. It certainly has changed a great deal over the years and morphed to include a lot that was never part of it.

It would be best to remove it from the curriculum as inappropriate; but calling a ban on teaching it is ridiculous. By banning it in its current form we are entering a trap whereby even a few of the points of it they may be valid from the hundreds that are not are getting lumped in to the bathwater.

Remove from the curriculum if it doesn't pass the muster test, but do not ban anything. We wouldn't even have KF if thoughts that were disgusting couldn't be voiced, but we all recognize we are adults and can think for ourselves.
As for our kids, if peer reviews find the CRT that is in your school to be loaded with quite obvious hacks, then please proceed to have it removed - but don't ban it.

I can understand that concern. It could very well be a slippery slope if we’re not careful. I am ok with it being discussed if it could be discussed. Do you think teachers who strongly believe in it will allow dissent? If they do, how many would be petty enough to be harder on a student for disagreeing with them? What about all those people in HR who waste people’s time with diversity BS? Do you think they’d be ok with people pointing out how they’re not doing anything constructive? That their friends webinar was not worth a penny we paid them? That they skipped over a qualified individual, perhaps one who is a minority, in favor of a do nothing fellow believer?

My concern though is that outside of anonymous forums there isn’t any way to critique it without serious repercussions. If I were to state on social media that I don’t believe in the concept of race and it was all bs, there is the very real risk of some asshole contacting my HR and trying to get me fired. It wouldn’t matter if I didn’t believe in the concept of race or whiteness. It wouldn’t matter if I was “a minority.” I’d be labeled a white supremacist and blacklisted from large and mid cap businesses.

I’ve tried being nice and compromising but sometimes I wonder if we’d be in this situation if more of us spoke out against what we perceived as the misguided but well intentioned activists rather than constantly compromising and hoping for the best.

 

[TFT-A9]

I don't have anything further to add to this thread that would be considered valuable, but I'll leave it with this warning:

You have just celebrated a government legislating against the teaching of something. Ergo, this will not be the last thing they will ban - and you are not going to like what some people in their ears are going to say should not be taught and give them plenty of money to have other things banned. It also means that you are celebrating that they can legislate what can be taught.

Perhaps in Salt Lake they will ban any teaching that questions the truth of Mormons, or perhaps anything (like critical thinking) that could shed a light on thinking that Mormons aren't the best - or ban books that question it.

I get it you don't like CRT, but again you are celebrating a slippery slope and I promise you, whatever you think is right to be taught or not is NOT going to be the same as what people (often religions and deluded meglomaniacs) think, and now they can lobby to have other things added to the "do not teach list" with their money.

It will take time, but the slope has started. Watch. This is nothing to celebrate even if you hate CRT you aren't seeing where this can - and will - go to.

It has no value. None. It is bereft of useful information, its proponents will engage in motte and bailey at will to worm it into places it never belonged and if someone wants to go read it on their own time outside of the classroom so be it but it sullies any educational institution it's allowed in. The fact that it has already reached this level of weaponization and has struck as deeply as it has into schools and colleges is frankly embarrassing and the sooner it is completely expunged from curricula and marginalized as batshit, bullshit and utterly unfit for consideration as academic study the better.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

RT's definition of things like individuality/objectivity being white supremacist

Of course the woke cult believes that. It's hard to bullshit people to Listen and Believe in The Narrative - when people question stuff and don't try to lump people together into "communities" of "marginalized groups" and "oppressors". Like I said, planting woke to derail Occupy should be a crime against humanity.

 

[Wood]

gay rights being blended with the abhorrent demands of the Trans community that attempt to hijack the movement

I love this btw. The only reason you think this way is because you grew up during a time when gay "rights" were already normalized and troons were not yet. It's all Marxism dude, it's like saying math is fine but physics is obviously bullshit lol. And yeah, CRT should be taught in schools, and laughed at, for how retarded it is, along with the rest of Karl's insane ramblings.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

That "15 Characteristics" stuff applies more to woke culture, except objetivity and individualism.

Seems SJWs really like projecting.

 

[Iceland Heavy]

I don't have anything further to add to this thread that would be considered valuable, but I'll leave it with this warning:

You have just celebrated a government legislating against the teaching of something. Ergo, this will not be the last thing they will ban - and you are not going to like what some people in their ears are going to say should not be taught and give them plenty of money to have other things banned. It also means that you are celebrating that they can legislate what can be taught.

Perhaps in Salt Lake they will ban any teaching that questions the truth of Mormons, or perhaps anything (like critical thinking) that could shed a light on thinking that Mormons aren't the best - or ban books that question it.

I get it you don't like CRT, but again you are celebrating a slippery slope and I promise you, whatever you think is right to be taught or not is NOT going to be the same as what people (often religions and deluded meglomaniacs) think, and now they can lobby to have other things added to the "do not teach list" with their money.

It will take time, but the slope has started. Watch. This is nothing to celebrate even if you hate CRT you aren't seeing where this can - and will - go to.

Did you feel the same way about creationism in public schools being ruled unconstitutional or does 'noooo it's a slippery slope you're letting the government regulate wrongthink!' only apply to CRT?

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

I don't have anything further to add to this thread that would be considered valuable, but I'll leave it with this warning:

You have just celebrated a government legislating against the teaching of something. Ergo, this will not be the last thing they will ban - and you are not going to like what some people in their ears are going to say should not be taught and give them plenty of money to have other things banned. It also means that you are celebrating that they can legislate what can be taught.

Perhaps in Salt Lake they will ban any teaching that questions the truth of Mormons, or perhaps anything (like critical thinking) that could shed a light on thinking that Mormons aren't the best - or ban books that question it.

I get it you don't like CRT, but again you are celebrating a slippery slope and I promise you, whatever you think is right to be taught or not is NOT going to be the same as what people (often religions and deluded meglomaniacs) think, and now they can lobby to have other things added to the "do not teach list" with their money.

It will take time, but the slope has started. Watch. This is nothing to celebrate even if you hate CRT you aren't seeing where this can - and will - go to.

What amuses me is that you never actually said, in this thread, what CRT is while decrying the right not knowing what it is. You spout a lot of words and then something about not banning CRT because something else, somewhere down the line, could be banned too. But nothing about what CRT is, just don't ban it you stupid right wingers. So you either don't know what it is or don't want to admit to what it is. That just tells me it should be banned if you all want to obfuscate about what it is we're talking about. It obviously isn't something you want to define publicly.

I swear, Marxists should all be declared Hostis Humani Generis just for their ability to write essays that amount to nothing when pressed.

 

[LurkTrawl]

You have just celebrated a government legislating against the teaching of something. Ergo, this will not be the last thing they will ban - and you are not going to like what some people in their ears are going to say should not be taught and give them plenty of money to have other things banned. It also means that you are celebrating that they can legislate what can be taught.

I get it you don't like CRT, but again you are celebrating a slippery slope and I promise you, whatever you think is right to be taught or not is NOT going to be the same as what people (often religions and deluded meglomaniacs) think, and now they can lobby to have other things added to the "do not teach list" with their money.

The utter fucking disgust I have for leftists, progressives in particular, for having the tables turned against them warning against the same shit they utilize is damn near endless.

Fuck CRT, and some things shouldn't be "taught".

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

I don't have anything further to add to this thread that would be considered valuable, but I'll leave it with this warning:

You have just celebrated a government legislating against the teaching of something. Ergo, this will not be the last thing they will ban - and you are not going to like what some people in their ears are going to say should not be taught and give them plenty of money to have other things banned. It also means that you are celebrating that they can legislate what can be taught.

Perhaps in Salt Lake they will ban any teaching that questions the truth of Mormons, or perhaps anything (like critical thinking) that could shed a light on thinking that Mormons aren't the best - or ban books that question it.

I get it you don't like CRT, but again you are celebrating a slippery slope and I promise you, whatever you think is right to be taught or not is NOT going to be the same as what people (often religions and deluded meglomaniacs) think, and now they can lobby to have other things added to the "do not teach list" with their money.

It will take time, but the slope has started. Watch. This is nothing to celebrate even if you hate CRT you aren't seeing where this can - and will - go to.

A little late there, buddy.
People are getting de-facto banned left and right. Hence, "Cancel Culture" phenomenon and Big Tech censorship.

Saying an unproven, unverifiable theory shouldn't be taught as fact in public schools is not "banning it".
Is teaching that fish are actually fruit banned now?

 

[MadStan]

It has no value. None. It is bereft of useful information, its proponents will engage in motte and bailey at will to worm it into places it never belonged and if someone wants to go read it on their own time outside of the classroom so be it but it sullies any educational institution it's allowed in. The fact that it has already reached this level of weaponization and has struck as deeply as it has into schools and colleges is frankly embarrassing and the sooner it is completely expunged from curricula and marginalized as batshit, bullshit and utterly unfit for consideration as academic study the better.

The utter fucking disgust I have for leftists, progressives in particular, for having the tables turned against them warning against the same shit they utilize is damn near endless.

Fuck CRT, and some things shouldn't be "taught".

There is a great difference on CRT depending on who you go to. Originally it was about systemic racism and prejudice being embedded in American institutions, which quickly devolved with input as essentially being that whites deserve to feel guilt and should be responsible for wrongs of their fathers.

These 2 ideas are very different - and the CRT we have had thrust into educational systems bears more resemblance to the latter, which of course, is revolting. So agreed in its form it is unfit. I must concede that.

Those that pushed this latter version of CRT and used racism as a means to argue it should be put into schools - i,.e. you are a racist if you don't ought to be hanged. The first time I ever read CRT it had such a different proposition as to what I see today.

It is interesting that the legislation also makes requirement for study on the holocaust which I find a little odd given that it was a component of the war - not the driver - and many more than just Jews went to the camps.

The irony of this legislation (right or wrong) is that we want to rightly disown the ridiculous idea of whites today having a burden to bear for past wrongs, while at the same time now legislating we all have to appreciate the Holocaust so we can still give money to Israel and give Jews a pass for the wrongs done to them by another race.

Now that, is hilarious.

 

[LurkTrawl]

Originally it was about systemic racism and prejudice being embedded in American institutions,

Oh those things that don't exist, gotcha.

 

[4AMPudding]

It is important to understand the difference between a theory and the belief system of those who are heralding it.

Example: If a theory (remember, a theory as in idea) is proposed with a proposition, the proposition can quickly get lost when we start listening to it's adherents and start to lose focus on the actual theory. Often proponents of a theory want to install THEIR belief system into the theory or through the use of the theory really forward their own theory. We see this on talking heads all the time who take something and then give hours of opinions on the matter and insert their case into it so viewers adopt it, but it is not the original proposition any longer.

While CRT is a flawed theory it does have some merits, it is worth looking at as it was based on observations which while are subject to interpretation are convincing enough to propose the theory of systemic racism and prejudice, alas the main proponents of it have thrust their ideologies and interpretations into it and thus what they are clamoring for is fundamentally distant from actual CRT. An analogy would be gay rights being blended with the abhorrent demands of the Trans community that attempt to hijack the movement for their own purposes. Thus the Equality Act is seen as for Trans people when it started out as something else and is permanently associated with a tiny fraction of the people it is supposed to cover.

My main problem with banning CRT is that we are banning thought. It is a theory, not anything else based on some observed facts. If we do not teach it then we do not get it refined or debated to a workable theory or removed as a theory worth even a pursuit.

No matter how horrible I consider other forms of belief or ideas held by others, the idea of banning it's teachings is fundamentally wrong. If we can not teach people how to think to make up their own minds, then I guess we will have to start banning Ancient Aliens and Mermaids on the History Channel also. While at it, we open the door to banning religion also and other philosophies.

You just don't do it. And every time you ban an idea, it never ever works out how you hope it will.

Teach people HOW to think, not WHAT to think.

You're equating taught theory to theory, which are 2 different things. we teach people shit like the theory of relativity, it's all just theory but pushing it into schools makes people trust it more inherently, and a thought excersize, as others have put it in the thread, do not belong in academia. It's also inherently harmful to many degrees and i don't care how hijacked it is, as you put it. CRT has absolutely no place in schools, epecially schools as early as elementary.

 

[NyQuilninja]

it is clear there are many on here who have not read anything much about Critical Race Theory.

Except what they've seen on the news and perhaps a quick look on Wiki. The right have a new boogey man.

Ok nigger faggot
Here
The first is to understand how a regime of white supremacy and its subordination of people of color have been created and maintained in America, and, in particular, to examine the relationship between that social structure and professed ideals such as "the rule of law" and "equal protection." The second is a desire not merely to understand the vexed bond between law and racial power but to change it." (Crenshaw et al., 1995)

https://libguides.du.edu/c.php?g=931280&p=7098628

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I don't have anything further to add to this thread that would be considered valuable, but I'll leave it with this warning:

You have just celebrated a government legislating against the teaching of something. Ergo, this will not be the last thing they will ban - and you are not going to like what some people in their ears are going to say should not be taught and give them plenty of money to have other things banned. It also means that you are celebrating that they can legislate what can be taught.

Perhaps in Salt Lake they will ban any teaching that questions the truth of Mormons, or perhaps anything (like critical thinking) that could shed a light on thinking that Mormons aren't the best - or ban books that question it.

I get it you don't like CRT, but again you are celebrating a slippery slope and I promise you, whatever you think is right to be taught or not is NOT going to be the same as what people (often religions and deluded meglomaniacs) think, and now they can lobby to have other things added to the "do not teach list" with their money.

It will take time, but the slope has started. Watch. This is nothing to celebrate even if you hate CRT you aren't seeing where this can - and will - go to.

We ban intelligent design because it's an opinion not backed by facts. The same is true of CRT.

 

[TFT-A9]

Oh those things that don't exist, gotcha.

Racism is already just a 20th century rebranding of the idea of tribalism. It's a very crude rebranding, it actually dumbs down tribalism (somehow).

Critical theories are not designed to explain, they are not designed to elucidate. They're designed to dismantle, and not even in a way that gives the dismantler greater understanding of what he's dismantling. They're idiotic mindgames, like a Rubik's Cube if the Rubik's Cube was made of feces and located entirely within your imagination. They're dead ends of questioning because they produce no result that brings you any closer to a greater understanding of the thing they're cutting to pieces. Applying critical theory to something is like trying to slice a cherry pie with a steamroller instead of a knife, and then musing to yourself about how cherry pies smell like asphalt and are really just reddish-brown smears.

 

[melty]

I wish schools only taught CRT