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The Mad Science of Height Gains

It's easy to have a dumb opinion. This is especially true on the Internet. Search the Internet for any possible dumb opinion, and you'll find someone advocating for it. This thread is full of examples of incels having dumb opinions, which, in my own (admittedly dumb) opinion, is fucking boring.

You know what's not boring? A thread full of teenagers illegally injecting experimental Chinese steroids, in order to "maximise" their gains from puberty (OP). Annotations in italics, as usual:

You know what, I actually respect and root for this guy. He has a precocious intellect, and an encyclopedic knowledge of the human endocrine system. Here's his response to a fellow poster, who was concerned about the inclusion of a tranny hormone in his steroid stack:

This poster's name is Henry_Gandy (an allusion to David Gandy, the male model). As the thread progresses, it's clear that Henry_Gandy doesn't just want to be tall. He wants to be an immortal giant.



The thread is then derailed by a few pages of retarded infighting. Henry_Gandy continues his excursion into the unknown:

And addresses some more concerns. He's apparently found a way to halt / reverse skeletal aging by deactivating the body's natural cancer-suppression mechanisms:

A newcomer to the thread comments succinctly,
> surprise height or surprise cancer, what a gamble.
Gandy is unfazed.



An insecure teenager enters the thread with some concerns of his own, leading to this golden exchange:

Another poster is concerned about the cost:


At this point, Gandy and the OP are the only ones who have actually taken a steroid regimen. Not anymore. A third contender enters the ring, with much less glowing reviews:

A thread regular diagnoses the newcomer with hepatitis. The newcomer confirms this:

Which I think is a good note to end this post on. :story:

Tagging our medicine / biochemistry spergs: @The Littlest Shitlord , @cuddle striker , @sperginity , @eternal dog mongler . Is any of this shit legit?
My personal research is more concerned with the effects of too little SAM-e rather than the effects of too much. Nevertheless, I think that this sounds like an insanely bad idea. SAM-e is the universal methyl group donor for all biochemical processes that need one, much like ATP is the energy donor for nearly all biochemical processes that need one. One of the most important uses for methyl groups is affixing them to DNA to regulate gene expression. The study of this process is a major part of the field of epigenetics, which is relatively new and much is poorly understood at this time. They are trying to turn off genes, while their bodies are still developing, while having very little idea what they are doing, so they can turn themselves into freaks, so that they can get girls. I'm not even going to try looking for relevant studies because of how unlikely it is there are any; no one has been stupid enough to do this before. But known side effects of excess SAM-e include depression and anxiety.
 
They are trying to turn off genes, while their bodies are still developing, while having very little idea what they are doing, so they can turn themselves into freaks, so that they can get girls. I'm not even going to try looking for relevant studies because of how unlikely it is there are any; no one has been stupid enough to do this before.
They actually link to a metric fuck-ton of studies, most of which I excised to make my post more readable:

Growth plate senescence is associated with loss of DNA methylation
"In particular, there has been increased documentation that methylation of the promoter regions of several genes, including known tumor suppressor genes, results in the subsequent failure to express their functional proteins."
"High levels of methylation have been identified in invasive and large pituitary tumors."
"SAM-e seems like it can inhibit and accelerate the destruction of cancer cells when their pathogenesis comes from the hypomethylation of certain genes. I'm really not sure what that means for us since I'm pretty sure our genes are normally methylated, and we're inducing hypermethylation."
Epigenetic heredity of human height

I think this might have a grain of truth to it - but that doesn't change the fact that this guy shotgun-blasting his genome is a fucking stupid idea that will probably give him cancer. Pinging @Positron for a second opinion.
 
The Mad Science of Height Gains

It's easy to have a dumb opinion. This is especially true on the Internet. Search the Internet for any possible dumb opinion, and you'll find someone advocating for it. This thread is full of examples of incels having dumb opinions, which, in my own (admittedly dumb) opinion, is fucking boring.

You know what's not boring? A thread full of teenagers illegally injecting experimental Chinese steroids, in order to "maximise" their gains from puberty (OP). Annotations in italics, as usual:

You know what, I actually respect and root for this guy. He has a precocious intellect, and an encyclopedic knowledge of the human endocrine system. Here's his response to a fellow poster, who was concerned about the inclusion of a tranny hormone in his steroid stack:

This poster's name is Henry_Gandy (an allusion to David Gandy, the male model). As the thread progresses, it's clear that Henry_Gandy doesn't just want to be tall. He wants to be an immortal giant.



The thread is then derailed by a few pages of retarded infighting. Henry_Gandy continues his excursion into the unknown:

And addresses some more concerns. He's apparently found a way to halt / reverse skeletal aging by deactivating the body's natural cancer-suppression mechanisms:

A newcomer to the thread comments succinctly,
> surprise height or surprise cancer, what a gamble.
Gandy is unfazed.



An insecure teenager enters the thread with some concerns of his own, leading to this golden exchange:

Another poster is concerned about the cost:


At this point, Gandy and the OP are the only ones who have actually taken a steroid regimen. Not anymore. A third contender enters the ring, with much less glowing reviews:

A thread regular diagnoses the newcomer with hepatitis. The newcomer confirms this:

Which I think is a good note to end this post on. :story:

Tagging our medicine / biochemistry spergs: @The Littlest Shitlord , @cuddle striker , @sperginity , @eternal dog mongler . Is any of this shit legit?
its legitimately retarded! A minority of doctors, usually pediatricians, have fucked around with endocrine systems to try and solve the "problem" of sub optimal height in children, but it is not a very successful treatment and the long term risks are unknown. Parents that are horrified that their kids are on track to be 4'10" or something will agree to let some doctors give hormonal treatments. Those parents are fucking stupid and so are the doctors, and most of the time the kid ends up short anyway. While it is hard to say for sure that this same thing applies to normal height people, I would suspect that it does since height is determined by genetics for the most part. There is a sure fire way to be shorter, and that is to suffer from malnutrition. Outside of eating normally there isn't much that can be done to make people taller than they should be, outside of giving them a pituitary tumor.

They keep talking about growth plates "closing", but that isn't really how it works. The area called the growth plate is the end of a long bone, this area is called the epiphyisis. There is a higher ratio of ephiphysis to bone length in children than in adults. The epiphysis elongates along with the rest of the bone in a pre-determined manner until the ratio of the end of the bone to the long bone is typical of an adult rather than a child, and then the growth of the long bone stops. Its not a real plate and nothing closes, it is just a useful metaphor to explain growing. This isn't going to change appreciably by using the hormones described by the posts.

These guys are using compounds that are from shady backgrounds and could be entirely different hormones than what they want, or of dubious potency, or could contain carcinogens, etc. The guy taking spiro may not be doing much to his system, a lot of studies have shown that it doesn't do the greatest job of blocking androgens, hence all the troons that have taken estrogen and spiro for 5 years and look exactly the fucking same as pre-transition. He is simply exposing himself to a bunch of risks for no real reason. There is a finite amount of time for the bones to harden during puberty and fucking with your hormones is a great way to give yourself early onset osteoporosis. Medically transitioned children have very high rates of bone problems for this reason. Outside of exceptions like endocrine pathology, it is best to leave puberty the fuck alone. The body is doing exactly what it is supposed to.
 
I think this might have a grain of truth to it - but that doesn't change the fact that this guy shotgun-blasting his genome is a fucking stupid idea that will probably give him cancer. Pinging @Positron for a second opinion.
Epigenetics is still the Wild West in the field of gene expression so your guess is as good as mine. Epigenetic changes are common in tumor but of course it is hard to determine whether they are the cause or the effect. What might be of more immediate concern, should his crazy science experiment succeed (fat chance) is that the extra height might cause stress to the rest of his body. The boy cites Tanya Angus, the woman who suffered from Acromegaly-Giganticism, and this is what one of her obits says:

As her body grew larger, so did her heart, lungs, joints and other parts of her body. Soon she was being crushed by her own weight, and needed constant care from family and friends...Angus had grown so large that she could barely walk, and a swimming pool, where she could float, was the only place where she was without pain.​
Not very conductive to The Game don't you think?

[Epiphyseal plate] is not a real plate and nothing closes.
The epiphyseal plate is an plate of cartilage that ossifies when the growth of the long bone is complete, so it is appropriate to say it is "closed".
 
The Mad Science of Height Gains

It's easy to have a dumb opinion. This is especially true on the Internet. Search the Internet for any possible dumb opinion, and you'll find someone advocating for it. This thread is full of examples of incels having dumb opinions, which, in my own (admittedly dumb) opinion, is fucking boring.

You know what's not boring? A thread full of teenagers illegally injecting experimental Chinese steroids, in order to "maximise" their gains from puberty (OP). Annotations in italics, as usual:

You know what, I actually respect and root for this guy. He has a precocious intellect, and an encyclopedic knowledge of the human endocrine system. Here's his response to a fellow poster, who was concerned about the inclusion of a tranny hormone in his steroid stack:

This poster's name is Henry_Gandy (an allusion to David Gandy, the male model). As the thread progresses, it's clear that Henry_Gandy doesn't just want to be tall. He wants to be an immortal giant.



The thread is then derailed by a few pages of retarded infighting. Henry_Gandy continues his excursion into the unknown:

And addresses some more concerns. He's apparently found a way to halt / reverse skeletal aging by deactivating the body's natural cancer-suppression mechanisms:

A newcomer to the thread comments succinctly,
> surprise height or surprise cancer, what a gamble.
Gandy is unfazed.



An insecure teenager enters the thread with some concerns of his own, leading to this golden exchange:

Another poster is concerned about the cost:


At this point, Gandy and the OP are the only ones who have actually taken a steroid regimen. Not anymore. A third contender enters the ring, with much less glowing reviews:

A thread regular diagnoses the newcomer with hepatitis. The newcomer confirms this:

Which I think is a good note to end this post on. :story:

Tagging our medicine / biochemistry spergs: @The Littlest Shitlord , @cuddle striker , @sperginity , @eternal dog mongler . Is any of this shit legit?
"mad science" is the correct term. It's all shit some bro mixed together in a bag and decided to try. There are legitimate ways to increase height, involving broken bones, growth hormone during development- EARLY development. It's usually reserved for literal dwarves, never used on normal kids in any useful way (though it's been tried).

None of it involves research chemicals mixed with shady-ass untested supplements and/or steroids. None of it is going to work on anyone who's past puberty. I mean a split second past it; I mean old enough to be ordering this crap online. It's all childhood-age treatments and even then they're not very helpful.

Yes, roids work to build muscle fast, but in the long run it's impossible to maintain. If they stuck with steroids alone, they could be squat mini-testes men one day, certainly.

The height thing is lunacy.

Some of the stuff is carcinogenic that's mentioned there. Big risk, no rewards. But that's incel life, isn't it?

edit: this is Werner-level biology the guy is making up
 
"mad science" is the correct term. It's all shit some bro mixed together in a bag and decided to try. There are legitimate ways to increase height, involving broken bones, growth hormone during development- EARLY development. It's usually reserved for literal dwarves, never used on normal kids in any useful way (though it's been tried).
There's cosmetic surgery in South Korea for it (because, yes, they're obviously obsessed with height.)

And like you said it does involve breaking bones and letting them mend. You've permanently fucked up your legs in exchange for being an inch taller at best. If there were an easier or more effective way, they'd be doing that instead.
 
So according to Incels

-Foids only care about looks, money or status

-Foids don’t love you unless you’re good looking

-Foids will leave you the second they find a better looking guy

-If you mention your emotional troubles to a foid you’ll be met with apathy at best and mockery at worst

-If you’re rich, foids will siphon all the money they can from you and leave you

-If you don’t show them attention 24/7 they’ll cheat on you

Honestly women sound like terrible people, so why do Incels still want romantic relationships with them ?
 
-If you mention your emotional troubles to a foid you’ll be met with apathy at best and mockery at worst
To be fair this one is correct. No woman wants to date a bitch.

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So according to Incels

-Foids only care about looks, money or status

-Foids don’t love you unless you’re good looking

-Foids will leave you the second they find a better looking guy

-If you mention your emotional troubles to a foid you’ll be met with apathy at best and mockery at worst

-If you’re rich, foids will siphon all the money they can from you and leave you

-If you don’t show them attention 24/7 they’ll cheat on you

Honestly women sound like terrible people, so why do Incels still want romantic relationships with them ?
For validation purposes mostly.

^I know this thread is mostly about mocking incels but this is a pretty good video on the topic although he mostly talks about redpillers/puas.
 
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So according to Incels

-Foids only care about looks, money or status

-Foids don’t love you unless you’re good looking

-Foids will leave you the second they find a better looking guy

-If you mention your emotional troubles to a foid you’ll be met with apathy at best and mockery at worst

-If you’re rich, foids will siphon all the money they can from you and leave you

-If you don’t show them attention 24/7 they’ll cheat on you

Honestly women sound like terrible people, so why do Incels still want romantic relationships with them ?
To be fair, there are women like that who exist, but those who aren't often are out of reach for the average incel. Not sure about the average man as a whole, but I personally have known a few who fulfill most of these criteria.
For validation purposes mostly.

^I know this thread is mostly about mocking incels but this is a pretty good video on the topic although he mostly talks about redpillers/puas.
I'm listening to it, he seems to have a good grasp of that scene overall.

It seems most of the people who end up attracted to these communities just don't understand what to do to get what they want, and so end up stuck in this loop of nonsense. It's like wanting to join another kid's club at school but getting turned down, and then outwardly deciding the club is stupid and not worth joining. Except in this case they're doing it with a basic biological drive (that to mate and reproduce) and have no fucking clue how to handle it. And don't get me started on incel types with autism.
 
-If you mention your emotional troubles to a foid you’ll be met with apathy at best and mockery at worst
Well congratulations, you've just found a way to identify someone not to get involved with under any circumstances. At least if your "emotional troubles" aren't "if you don't fuck me I'll kill myself" in which case you're the complete dick in the situation.
 
Don't know if he qualifies as an incel, but this boy getting insanely angry at big-tittied twitch streamers si quite entertaining https://twitter.com/MissGinaDarling/status/1407076566887247877
Twitch is cringe anyway, it's kind of sad that actual female gamers with talent are overshadowed by the lunacy that we are witnessing here.

In his defense, simps do donate a hell of a lot of money to these girls, it's bewildering but I doubt it can truly last forever.
 
https://looksmax.org/threads/reasons-why-asian-have-recessed-maxilla-racepill.301034/ (A)


(The maxilla is the bone between the eyes and the upper jaw)



Its because asians maxilla shape. Asians have wider inter-molar width, but shorter length. It means asians maxilla growth is tend to widen not forwarded, so it pushes zygomatic bones to side. As a result asians have flat and wide(mid~upper) face.
This type of maxilla shape is observed in white/black kids(~10yo) too but the shape get transformed through puberty.












For some reason this Reminds me of Yaeba.
And if you check their most recent threads this guy made a thread with an edgy title and random capital letters. (thread/X)
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It's an edgy day over at incels, it could be due to the heat? (Thread/X)
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In his defense, simps do donate a hell of a lot of money to these girls, it's bewildering but I doubt it can truly last forever.
This weird artificial scarcity / worship of women is what creates incels in the first place.

Imagine you're a socially maladroit young boy in $CURRENT_YEAR. You don't get along with other boys, let along girls. All your hobbies are exclusively online and extremely male-coded, and all your communities are total sausagefests. The few women who do inhabit the same spaces as you are worshipped like gods by your peers, who are so starved for female attention that they'll degrade themselves for the slightest chance to possibly receive a crumb of pussy.

What do the incel, the simp, the troon have in common? They worship the opposite sex as an idol. You can bring the idol offerings (the simp), see it as an ideal to aspire to (the troon), or base your value as a human being on its appraisals (the incel / "red pill").

This problem arises because the Internet is much more segregated (by age, sex, political views, etc.) than real life. The average person can now achieve a level of isolation once reserved for hermits and monks, without the self-reflection and erudition that these lifestyles used to imply.
 
"Its literally over." He proclaims since he's going to be 27, perhaps he'll join the 27 club? Also, the names they use are um interesting. (Thread/X)
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(Thread/X) "incels won't exist in 100 years".
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Update: a scuffle over names? I even mentioned their names but I find them absurd, nothing to get mad over as they seem to be, then again they are on most matters.
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